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no way this all doesn't end with a zodiark v hydaelyn mech battle. the only question is who our opponent is and who is piloting what
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fandaniel, back at it again in the white robes
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Aug 26, 2020 17:15
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i never realized how badly alphinaud needs to become MCH until now
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Sep 10, 2020 22:17
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the ironworks figured out time travel using technology reverse engineered from a space alien, and the immortal interdimensional wizards were blindsided by that plus the giant tower built by a society that reverse engineered space alien tech. huh.
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Sep 17, 2020 21:47
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also after the people who reverse engineered time travel from space aliens sent back a catboy in a giant crystal tower to save the past, a gigantic space alien refugee woke up to protect them
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Sep 17, 2020 21:48
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cheetah7071 posted:I haven't read the new story so maybe it clarifies but my recollection from the Twinning notes is that time travel was reverse engineered from Alexander, and they reverse engineered Omega to figure out how to aim the crystal tower's existing rift-traveling technology at a new place without getting lost yeah this
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Sep 17, 2020 22:08
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imo the mostly likely scenario is that we pilot hydaelyn like a fuckin' mech suit or w/e against zodiark!zenos and both are completely destroyed in the process. no more benevolent god protecting the world, just us. (20% chance this is flipped and for some reason we are piloting zodiark against zenos!hydaelyn. this would require venat to come into play) even odds if zodiark and/or hydy show up in a form other than 'big crystal'. if they do, humanoid forms reminiscent of e8 shiva, obv. solid 80% chance by the end of this we are neither the warrior of light or the warrior of darkness, but instead ''the warrior of dawn''
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Sep 21, 2020 07:00
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we gonna either eat zodiark or hydy to power up and face down powered up zenos who ate the other one also at some point there will be a larger/newer danger force and we will power up off the prayers and hope and bonds and poo poo of everyone we've met along the way also at one point we will be referred to as the "Warrior of Dawn"
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Jan 26, 2021 01:31
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we aren't azem, azem is us. we aren't special because of who we used to be, we've just Always Been This Way
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Jan 26, 2021 05:34
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i just dont really get the 'azem stuff cheapens your character' argument. sundered souls and past lives have been on the table for a while. all the azem stuff does is confirm that you've been the way you are even across other lifetimes
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Jan 26, 2021 08:46
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thetoughestbean posted:Funny, I don’t get how the Azem stuff improves the story in any way! I don’t know how any story has been improved by having the main character be important because of them being a reincarnation of someone important from the past. they aren't important because they are a reincarnation. they are important because of the type of person they are and the type of things they do, and they are the type of person who is the warrior of light/darkness so hard that they've always been that type of person
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Jan 26, 2021 09:04
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Cleretic posted:You don't understand the angle that them coming out and directly saying 'your character, who was previously a nobody that got everywhere we've seen solely through personal effort and achievement, is actually one of the fourteen most Super Special people in the world in a past life and has established history with the big bad villains (that you may or may not actually like) and may in fact be the literal reincarnation of an in-universe god' might cheapen things for people who enjoyed that personal journey? i think we just gonna fundamentally disagree, i don't see a meaningful difference between "started from the bottom now we're here" and "im the kind of person who can 'start from the bottom now we're here' across lifetimes because my adventurer hustle game is that legit'"
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Jan 26, 2021 09:07
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i dunno dudes its like 3 am, its a matter of perspective and mine is better because i like it more and it doesn't bother me
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Jan 26, 2021 09:23
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also when the crystal said 'yours is the seat of azem' in the cutscene pre-WOL fight it was rad as hellllll
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Jan 26, 2021 09:24
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my real guess for azem-stuff is that when the zodiark/hydaelyn stuff was happening in the Final Days, they went off with whatever allies they might have had to try to kill whatever was causing the Sound so whenever the Sound becomes a central concern, either in 6.0 or afterwards, what they knew/found out will be important to discover
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Jan 26, 2021 18:52
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yeah for the sound to not be A Thing the game would have to ignore a large amount of stuff its already explicitly said about it
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Feb 1, 2021 16:33
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what tha gently caress is a woobie
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Feb 1, 2021 20:01
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i'd bet that we'll have another sundered ascian show up and go 'uhhh hey so our master plan is over and fandaniel is a problem' and team up with us
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Feb 5, 2021 18:25
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fandaniel restarts the final days, we need to go to zodiark to find a way to use him to fix it
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Feb 7, 2021 02:44
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i guess in the sense that he got ate by thordan using nidhoggs eye and then the eye got popped sure
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Feb 27, 2021 04:49
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zenos is gonna eat zodiark so hydaelyn is gonna let herself get eaten by wol
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Mar 22, 2021 03:39
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the twins gonna get fuckin obliterated baby
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Apr 11, 2021 17:54
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Nebrilos posted:Forgive me if these questions are naive. I seem to be bad at picking up subtext. And text. 1. he's a dipshit 2. he's a hypocrite 3. they weren't trying to flood of light it, just get it to the tilting point so it would merge with the source at the next calamity 4. stopping his heartbeat and being 'dead' outsmarted ranjits vision 5. he's been around for countless years and has magical alzheimers and is losing his sense of self and his finer memories, the names and faces of his comrades, the specific moments, etc 6. in the cutscene pre-trial you literally have the soul stone of azem and emet selchs ascian-voice says 'yours is the 14th seat, the seat of azem'. azem left the convocation and didn't participate in summoning zodiark OR hydaelyn. their ultimate fate is unknown 7. there are lesser ascians that the Actual Ascians use as minions who can just be killed. they pop up in a few job quests and the like. 8. deeplomatic eemunitee 9. gaia-as-ascian got loving killed, her soul was recycled, she was born again and grew up and then the events of eden happen. also yeah something like that, made with her power as she was being controlled 10. ladies be doing it for themselves 11. no, the unsundered were members of the convocation of 14 who didn't get split in the sundering. the sundered ascians are members of the convocation who the unsundered ascians sought out and then uplifted by giving them their memories back via soul crystal 12. gently caress man, i dunno 13. gently caress man, i dunno, we'll find out maybe. (alternatively: there are no humans in ffxiv) 14. big ol aethery crystals of light that hydaelyn uses to help you out. honestly i was always fuzzy on this one. they aren't super special artifacts though its just a poo poo ton of aether iirc 15. they are literally space aliens, and not from one of hydaelyns shards. we don't totally know how the cosmology works. i like to think its a weird fuzzy area of space with a bunch of overlapping dimensions, but we dont actually know 16. shits illegal and shut down but also there are lots of evil pirates about so, yknow. we kill a bunch of em in satasha 17. uldah sucks yeah. i think actual slavery got outlawed in the recent history so that dude probably wasn't on the up and up.
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Gearhead posted:The only things we know about the WoL is that they appear to not be native to Eorzea, they came from somewhere else, and they had a friend who drowned when they were young. And this may be the original thing which set them on their current path. Where's the drowned friend thing come from?
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Apr 22, 2021 18:22
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Gearhead posted:DRK quest, just as you start to realize that Fray is actually your dark side, Fray starts ranting about how they always hated the sea because it reminded them of someone they lost when they were younger. If your referring to the 45 quest, the friend he's referring to is yourself, and the incident is when you fought Leviathan
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Apr 22, 2021 18:49
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i dont get why people get like mad or offended when you lose a fight in the narrative. like, for me its just 'ah ok the games doing a thing, gotcha', but some people take it as a personal attack or some poo poo
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Apr 23, 2021 08:22
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that won't happen because it's not the part of the story where that happens anymore
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Apr 23, 2021 14:55
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yeah coming back via corpse possession echo/ascian style is said to have been a surprise to him
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Apr 24, 2021 03:54
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i mean, ardbert and wol are literally soulmates
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Apr 25, 2021 01:23
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it seems like a fairly obvious thing to me that the guy who shows up and tells everyone that he doesn't want anything besides death and don't try to reason with him because thats all there is to him, and then spends a lot of time when other characters can't see him smiling knowingly, maybe be masking large aspects of his intentions/plans/motives
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May 4, 2021 01:00
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we could just take out zenos' knees and then like, lend her a gun
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May 4, 2021 13:08
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I mean I definitely wanna zenos die in some sort of way that is personally tormenting, I also want a sick fight accompanied by sokens best take on the MGR ost
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May 6, 2021 21:37
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The WoL kills Zenos by poisoning his food
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May 6, 2021 21:49
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people were extremely "ughh this villain is gonna suck" about emet in 4.4/4.5
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May 7, 2021 17:44
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neither did fandaniel?
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May 7, 2021 17:49
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Sherry Bahm posted:Characters like Cylva don't draw as much ire because, as far as we're aware, she's already spent over a hundred years feeling bad about it and basically tried to get us to put her out of her misery. Not much we can do there that she isn't already doing to herself. gaius isn't actually saying that poo poo by the time werlyt concludes
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May 10, 2021 15:09
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The clouds part and its 90% water
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May 11, 2021 19:32
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Cythereal posted:Personally, what I'm hoping for is that there was no mysterious threat that brought down the Amaurotines. The Sound was an invention of Emet's recollections to explain the fear that brought down their society. They never 'mysteriously lost control,' it wasn't inflicted on them by an outside source, Amaurot died because people were afraid and misused their gifts. Zodiark saved the world from the actual threat facing it: Amaurot. A reality that Emet could never face, that Amaurot was the cause of its own destruction and needed to die. I don't think this will occur, it doesn't make a lot of sense
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May 17, 2021 21:22
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Moofia Boss Val posted:A king is invested in the fate of his country. It is in his selfinterest to ensure the wellbeing and prosperity of his people and his land. The king cannot easily walk away from his kingdom when things go south; his fate is anchored to it. If his people revolt or his kingdom is invaded, he and his family will most likely die. The king is extremely motivated to act in the best interests of his kingdom. this rules. keep it up. november is a long ways away
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Moofia Boss Val posted:
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