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Is Reincarnation just Nightmare++ or is it more of an alternative mode?
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Dec 30, 2021 17:25
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Countblanc posted:Is Reincarnation just Nightmare++ or is it more of an alternative mode? Its mostly nightmare++ but you also get a dude at the very beginning who gives you a choice of strong buffs you can buy with the soul crystals or w/e. So you really want to be maxed out on levels before you try reincarnation otherwise you either wont be able to afford the buff or you slow yourself down on the talents
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Dec 30, 2021 17:32
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Pretty much Nightmare+ to ++++++++ depending on what level you play on. The spiritual blessings really open up build options and fun stuff, once you've maxed out the talent tree and beaten Nightmare there's no reason not to just play Reincarnation. The spiritual blessings are so strong though that Reincarnation 1 is by far easier than Nightmare, especially the early game.
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Dec 30, 2021 17:49
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double posting to say wow, Dog has a genuinely good dual wielding build now on Reincarnation! Weapon Genius is a pretty good spiritual blessing now. Also checked the frame unlock requirements and they're kind of funny, they range from just playing a particular build to pray you get Easy Kill in Longling Tomb. They look pretty sick though. also Tiger's frame requires you play Solo on Nightmare or Reincarnation and clear all 4 acts with only snipers/foundry. lol edit: I just found out you can choose Curse scrolls for the peculiar chests that ask you to hand over "an occult scroll" in exchange for something else. 
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Dec 30, 2021 21:09
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Evil Kit posted:also Tiger's frame requires you play Solo on Nightmare or Reincarnation and clear all 4 acts with only snipers/foundry. lol gently caress, I like just did this! I found an incredible Piercing Flame end of Longling Tomb and beat Pole Monarch with it! Ah well, back to the Gunfire mines I go. 
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Dec 30, 2021 21:56
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What is this? Game update after post release? But the plan is to release a thing, then make it dead game afterwards... But apparently these guys missed this memo and are "prototyping" 2022 future plans, maybe something DLC. 2022 New-year Letter from Gunfire Studio Hmm. So what are you all hoping for in a 2022 Gunfire year?
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Dec 31, 2021 05:59
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:So you really want to be maxed out on levels before you try reincarnation otherwise you either wont be able to afford the buff or you slow yourself down on the talents I started playing reincarnation at just around 100, and I think it's working out. You earn a LOT of soul, and the scrolls and soul-talents are REALLY strong, it feels easier to me than Nightmare and I'm making more cash with every run that I used to be
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Dec 31, 2021 06:39
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Golden Goat posted:I haven't maxed out the tree yet I'm about lv 126. I went up in difficulty levels way before you're "supposed" to too, outside of the hero talents (definitely max those out ASAP for the hero you're playing) there's some must-gets that make it a lot easier on you. Being able to refresh the merchant, and the less elemental damage taken and the other survivability ones go a long way. Manipulation elemental fusion (shock + fire) is a massive help too, since enemies attacking eachother aren't attacking you. Also I found the first stage to always be the hardest for me personally, cramped rooms, lots of traps, fucky elites (fu Elite Spearman when nobody has an acid weapon), and more crossbows than you can shake a stick at.
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Dec 31, 2021 11:00
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We cleared the boat on nightmare. I just got lucky with Lei Luo and got Hawkeye Sight and Penetration Bullet real early and built him around chaining Fatal Current. I got lazy at the end and used a talisman instead of a sniper rifle. Partner was Tao and was just vomiting swords or something. Not sure what lead to that but it was liquifying bosses.
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Jan 2, 2022 12:49
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Golden Goat posted:Partner was Tao and was just vomiting swords or something. Not sure what lead to that but it was liquifying bosses. There's a build where whenever you hit anything with your blossoms (Q) it will summon (100/200/250)% of your current stacks of swords. Then if you get all three of the plus base/max stacks it can be summoning like 20 swords every Q cast. That's the build I aimed for when I first started out. I do think the weapon build is better at higher difficulties. The sword damage just doesn't scale well. It sort of will if you also get the sword crit and base damage talents, but that requires a lot of RNG luck to max the build. Then you also need at least one into the shields per sword and probably want one into the each sword causes the target to take more sword damage. Just too many necessary parts to make it a reliable end game build imo I will say it is very satisfying for the thin level 2 archer/gun units, if you got lucky one Q will kill them. Fire and forget Fuck You And Diebold fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 2, 2022 |
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Jan 2, 2022 16:02
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imo you have play very carefully towards the end of act 1 in nightmare mode. Your build won't be online by that point and you probably have crappy weapons. It's better to just dink and dunk from behind a pillar against the later rooms with snipers and the shield guys unless you can take them out asap
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Jan 2, 2022 16:38
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Gotta agree, the longbow jerks are the biggest threat in tomb and just handing back behind cover while thinning out the front line is the safe but effective way to do it. Unless you have a good sniper or long ranged option to just nuke the longbows with, of course. After a certain point with all the talents if you have the right guns or got lucky and hit the core of a build early you can force the back line and kill the longbows first before killing everything else. It's a riskier move though. Sword Hose Rabbit is more likely maxing out Luminous Heart and Blade Shadow than the the Blossom build, you can only Q so fast and it doesn't look like a sword hose. Still a fun build though, and tbh it does help immensely with the Swords Out Rabbit build for maintaining stacks. I realized when I played after the patch that all the new frames are also achievements, which means I'll actually have to get them. At least the Bunny one is just Sword build.
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Jan 2, 2022 17:16
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double post because yeah okay the frame unlocks are just dumb. You have to force a specific ascension build for all of them but Tiger, who is just "don't touch weapons other than snipers in solo nightmare/reinc" If you want the Bunny one, get level 3 Luminous Heart and level 2 Blade Shadow, boom, 45 swords at max stacks.
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Jan 2, 2022 21:00
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I'm very glad they changed the last boss' DPS check not to wipe you if you fail it as I just had my first turtle run along with a rabbit where we were strangely extremely powerful against regular enemies but not at all against high health enemies, so we failed the check but were able to win anyway hot drat turtle is fun with 40 punch capacity, duplicating punches and punching extends your shield so you can keep it up for a whole room
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Jan 3, 2022 01:38
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https://i.imgur.com/J0TgmzD.mp4 new gun rocks, dog buffs good
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Jan 7, 2022 08:10
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https://i.imgur.com/X8Cdj7t.mp4 Finally beat the game with bunny on Nightmare after getting stomped on in R3 over and over. Got the Veteran scroll super early and was able to pump that up over 320 by the time I got to the last boss. Then got Flesh and Bones which helped too. My weapon is a Scalpel that had the autoaim for crit after 5 kills which made the rest of the run v. easy. Fun stuff.
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Jan 10, 2022 05:50
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I was looking for a looter shooter to play and had this game recommended to me by goons. Man it's so addicting. I've been playing it for about a week now and just managed to clear elite difficulty at level 81. I'm usually not a fan of roguelites but the guns and different character abilities are just so much fun to play with that I don't even mind the roguelite elements.
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Jan 16, 2022 18:33
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Jan 17, 2022 01:43
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More enhanced scrolls:quote:
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Jan 21, 2022 20:10
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Read those patch notes, read the thread and I finally had to open the game and read the (X) Enthusiast scrolls because I wasn't sure but- the enhanced versions are exactly the same? What the hell dev team, is that a typo or did you literally just add dud enhanced scrolls that are duplicate copies of their original versions?
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Jan 23, 2022 00:06
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I believe there are enhanced versions of occult scrolls that can drop.
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Jan 23, 2022 00:53
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cage-free egghead posted:I believe there are enhanced versions of occult scrolls that can drop. Correct! Though only in Reincarnation difficulties and are usually only acquired via the Phantom Peddler that appears in aforementioned difficulty, or if you take a specific spiritual blessing that gives you a flat 20% for any occult scroll to become its enhanced version. Enhanced scrolls are strong and getting good enhanced scrolls can absolutely win you a run, but also lose you a run on the higher levels of Reincarnation if you don't get any good ones. However generally those enhanced versions actually do something different. As far as I can tell comparing the text, Enhanced versions of Corrosion/Lighting/Fire Enthusiast are literally the same as their non-enhanced counterparts. This seems like an oversight and unintentional.
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Jan 23, 2022 05:19
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 I think this is the lowest weapon level I've won with in a while. Don't frequently get weapons with good enough inscriptions to overcome the value of the huge level weapon you've been feeding since early on, so it's nice when it happens.
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Jan 23, 2022 21:52
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dual wielding weapons with low stability and hawkeye sight, clutching my mouse with a vice grip while I try to track the heads of kung fu monkeys while they roll around
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Jan 24, 2022 01:33
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IronicDongz posted:dual wielding weapons with low stability and hawkeye sight, clutching my mouse with a vice grip while I try to track the heads of kung fu monkeys while they roll around
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Jan 24, 2022 01:44
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I'm doubleposting to not ruin my emptyquote to say if that fit as a thread title I'd say we'd need to PM a mod to get it changed. Probably should get the thread title changed since Gunfire isn't actually in early access anymore.
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Jan 24, 2022 01:49
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If you guys find something you really like just report that post and state in the comment that you want it as the new thread title.
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Jan 24, 2022 02:11
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Gunfire Reborn - Smack your dragon to reload
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Jan 24, 2022 12:05
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Osmosisch posted:Gunfire Reborn - Smack your dragon to reload Not bad!
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Jan 24, 2022 12:18
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The transition from Elite to Nightmare is being rough. I'm starting to think *maybe* I'm not the super hotshot FPS player than I believed I was: LOL
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Jan 28, 2022 10:54
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Oof, I feel you. Gunfire has been the go-to game for me and 2 buddies to play on our weekly game night, so I've seen everything the game has to offer, but I can't imagine doing the tougher difficulties solo. Getting resurrected by a friend is core to my gameplay experience. How else can I justify going zero survivability if not leaning on my partners? As long as my numbers are biggest at the end of the run. Lightning Tiger is probably also one of the tougher characters to solo with on top of that. Bunny's probably easiest, fast and continually making more shields with her sword talent.
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Jan 28, 2022 11:11
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I'd say Bird, Bunny and Turtle are easiest solo, with Tiger being the worst by a mile. He's just so drat squishy that even if you get a strong build going you still gotta be aware of being one shot at any moment. Ultimately though, Nightmare is indeed just hard enough even with a maxed out talent tree that you're going to splat a lot of runs trying to get an initial build going if you're playing solo, and you'll still lose a number of the good runs you get going to I imagine it is made worse if you're trying for Tiger's frame though.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:33
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Can confirm, I switched to Bunny and reached stage 4 in Desert. I actually had picked Tiger just because I hadn't played with him a lot, in general, not for other reason.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:36
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I dont understand why they made some frames solo-only, like at least make it also able to get in solo, not only in solo.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:38
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Fishstick posted:I dont understand why they made some frames solo-only, like at least make it also able to get in solo, not only in solo. it's because two tigers can't occupy one (mountain) peak. I think it's dumb too.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:39
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tbh I struggled in nightmare and then jumped into reincarnation 1 after my first win and found that to be easier thanks to the blessings
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Jan 28, 2022 15:46
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yeah the blessings and enhanced scroll really make up for whatever slight difference in difficulty there is between Nightmare and Reincarnation 1. Reincarnation 4+ though? you start noticing all the things the difficulty scaling modifies, especially solo
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Jan 28, 2022 16:24
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Figured I'd go for the Bird frame and my second run I got the platonic ideal Cleave build, literally only one ascension by the end of world 3 wasn't a cleave ascension and that was only because I forgot I had Ultimate Gambler! Also broke my highest damage dealt record, ended with 3790 Easy Kill stacks. You can def only hit the threshold for the frame (3000) if you get Easy Kill on the first or second stage of Tomb and also get a Cleave Carnivale level early to pair with it. 
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Jan 29, 2022 03:43
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sometimes you do some bigbrained elemental combo stuff to win other times you just get a 10.6x crit multiplier on an illusion and hold down m1
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Jan 29, 2022 05:20
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What is stability? Does it affect accuracy or critical chance? While I'm here, a few times I've been playing Thunder Cat and have noticed that sometimes scopes will outline enemies in red through cover after waiting a second or two. I haven't seen an inscription that explicitly grants it, though I think I've seen it most often (but not always) with "additional crit damage after waiting in scope for two seconds". Is it a hidden bonus or am I just missing it? Also, I'm doing Nightmare solo as well after just squeaking through Epic. The jump in difficulty is... something. I lose like a third of my runs due to being inattentive around traps. Epic is doable, though I lose a lot of runs suddenly and stupidly. On Nightmare, I'm lucky to clear the Temple. I feel like I don't have enough time to get a build going unless I'm very lucky with ascensions. I really want to see Reincarnation, but I think I'm going to run out of steam before then.
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