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Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


bob dobbs is dead posted:

hes going to be genuinely surprised at the civil war isnt he
yeah but he'll forget about it by morning

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Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.



lol if they mean insulin shock, a lack of carbs is the problem

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


im super fat and also type 1 so checkmate :smug:

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


endlessmonotony posted:

Your science is bad. You can get type2 from getting fat but there's so, so many other causes. Diabetes being sorted by cause rather than by symptoms would be super useful if we could trust doctors to give a poo poo and do the work to identify the cause.

yeah type 2 is just resistance in general, and there's loads of things that create resistance, though fat is the predominant cause in america the idea it's the only cause causes a lot of misdiagnoses of type 2 when it's really type 1 (this happened to an old friend of mine), not identifying actual pancreatic disorders, etc

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


random twitter weirdos are gonna be dumb. that's like looking up youtube comments lol

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


PIZZA.BAT posted:

was debating posting this in cjs because it's positive but i'm gonna put it here instead

https://twitter.com/GravelInstitute/status/1310633185198440451

i'm tossing em $30 a month because they have quite a lineup so far and i was hypnotized by h. jon's sexy voice

good presenters but the videos aren't.. as bite sized and high production as prageru's. that's okay, it's brand new, but i hope they can keep punching hard.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


in other news,

https://twitter.com/tackettdc/status/1310701015134601216?s=20

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


President Beep posted:

imagine not having to own a car. god that would rule.

aren't you around kalamazoo? just go down to chicago for a weekend. it's gr8

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


ironically i feel like him dying pathetically and slowly of covid would be one of the only things which could defuse some of the paramilitaries. hard to get excited and stage violence when your fearless leader goes (from their perspective) super weakly.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Jonny 290 posted:

"Trump's not dead, he's in a secure hidden location because the Deep State is getting too close. Time to Ride." boom there you go.

yeah of course folks will ratonalize it like this or whatever, but they're all driven by emotion, and him even seeming to die has an emotional impact. idk, we're still hosed either way, but there's a handful of silver linings

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


correct, nazis never march in the south side of chicago or the streets of detroit. they stay in skokie or fuckin grosse pointe.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


FAT32 SHAMER posted:

didn’t nazis March in downtown Detroit with full DPD protection lol

downtown detroit is definitely more grosse point nowadays, you have security guards patrolling the streets to make sure there's not too many homeless folks and the like

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


im voting for biden because i really cant find it in me to think another 4 years of trump is somehow better than 4 years under biden. that's it, that's my entire decision making process, and imho is all that's at stake on this particular ballot (minus statewide and local races ofc).

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


psiox posted:

absolutely judge anyone that doesn't vote for biden while considering themselves high and mighty about it

i dont feel this way. i cant morally justify convincing folks to vote for a rapist. i will vote for biden for the reasons given above. but it's not a good thing, by any means, and i struggle to describe it that way.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


joe biden is less bad than donald trump. i dont think that's wrong? biden did bad and trump is doing bad, but unless you take an accelerationist approach, biden will be less bad than trump in office. if you do take an accelerationist approach not much i can do.

but yes. this is awful. we're doomed. hell world etc. not gonna convince folks to vote biden, per my previous posts. but painting voting for biden as worse than not voting or voting for trump is also bad, is all.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Oneiros posted:

until he helps start another war that kills over a million people and devastates an entire nation and destabilizes a major region of the world then trump doesn't hold a candle to joeseph loving biden. if you vote for joe because he's the "lesser" evil you are either a credulous moron or a colossal piece of poo poo

this is stupid and reductionist. blaming joe biden for either 9/11 or iraq, and the resultant huge loving watershed of issues, while not completely inaccurate, is dumb as poo poo and reductionist. stop learning your politics from twitter ffs

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


fwiw dubya is definitely worse than trump too and you can draw a straight line from vietnam to the current brokebrain politics but openly saying you think trump would be better the next 4 years than biden because of the middle east is one of the stupidest things ive ever read.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Jonny 290 posted:

this is some d&d poo poo please stop nobody's going to convince anybody else itt to vote or not vote or vote differently
and really this means this thread is a microcosm of american politics and how fundamentally broken they are for the foreseeable future

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

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PIZZA.BAT posted:

cool another circular firing squad

this is what happens when folks Drink and Post; gotta make pot shots and blame EVERYONE ELSE for getting the thread closed, while i, the CORRECT ONE, are winning again!

internet points are useless. stop posting on reddit and twitter dumbasses

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Jonny 290 posted:

if we don't, they will continue to move right. over and over and over again. they have proven this with their track record.

There is a difference between "wanting donald trump to be president for another term" and "realizing that biden's admin will crush the wonderful growth of the leftist movement we've seen in the past three years, and will put us in an objectively worse position in 2020 and 2022"

people really are not cognizant of the absolute horrorshow we have coming up in four years. Competent fascists are way, way more terrifying than the incompetent ones we have today.

I recognize that it's fundamentally an accelerationist take, based on the premise that we can strengthen the left and make it a real option in the next four years if we have trump term 2. I don't have an easy or happy rebuttal to that. i guess so.

there were socialists in weimar germany who also believed the incompetent fascists were better to leave in charge so that the communists could get their turn. it ended Badly, as we all know.

that said, i also think this one election isn't the point all this stuff was decided. it definitely happened a long time ago

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Nov 26, 2010

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fart simpson posted:

having an ideology different than yours isn't a purity test. we aren't on the same "side" as you.

i feel like this might be deliberate enemy-izing other posters? i really, really doubt that ANYONE posting in this thread isn't a leftist who wants the current capitalist system completely destroyed. saying "side" or whatever is dumb but that's certainly a common goal here.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


i legitimately think that if you remove everyone who couldn't survive on $100/week from being able to make decisions the country would vastly improve overnight. broke rear end rich people brains

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


ShadowHawk posted:

This is some serious projecting nonsense

you're right, you can find me posting all about how some of the loving posters in this thread are/aren't the enemy, you got me.

wait poo poo you're just stepping on rakes

bob dobbs is dead posted:

marx said that real communism would begin in the cities and he was right. maos lil experiment failed

i dont know how to even begin building class consciousness in america. folks get so angry at even the idea of organizing, saying poo poo like "well what if it becomes a bad union". fighting this disinformation will be a generational struggle.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


ShadowHawk posted:

Fair enough, I'm being a bit too harsh here. I'm mostly mad about this form of wishful thinking I see all the time where people don't want to believe that coalitions necessarily include people who disagree on major things.

Politics is a multiheaded beast.

that's why it's so important to remain focused on a common goal. we need to organize, we need to replace our collapsing government with an actually representative one, and we need to stop letting rich people just loot whatever the gently caress they want unimpeded

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


endlessmonotony posted:

There's a lot of work ahead no matter which racist old man wins.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Captain Foo posted:

this thread sucks because you’re telling people to stop posting in it because qqqqq

everyone here knows that posting in the yospos hell world venting thread doesn’t actually enact real world change

but sometimes people want to vent

lol i hate to defend blinkzorz, a ton, but the idea that it's gonna be enforced to say "nothing at all can be done about this, except playing in Minecraft" by IKs/mods is loving hilarious

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

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y'all aren't loving doomposting enough. STOP ORGANIZING AND POST

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

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lots of anti-union folks telling on themselves rn, solidarity with eachother is literally the only thing we can have to get through the next decade or 2. but gotta own the socialists who still believe in unions!

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


dont know where else to put this but it's Beautiful
https://twitter.com/futurecanon/status/1315496552534880257

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

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eschaton posted:

for example, this could be the election that turns the right statehouse that puts the interstate electoral vote compact in effect—and a turned Senate could result in a favorable court when it’s inevitably tested

i legitimately dont have faith the democrats will stack the court. i wish i did :smith:

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Nov 26, 2010

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it's because they dont know to spend the time to understand it. they literally just cant pay attn long enough

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

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the michigan slumlord who is trying to stop a public bridge to canada from opening here because he owns the only other one knew to buy ads on fox and friends encouraging the president to ban it for a reason

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

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FAT32 SHAMER posted:

lmao yeah

let’s see how our comrades in the IRA fared in the court of public opinion for advocating for a good thing (autonomy for Ireland and Northern Ireland) by pipebombing everything

:eyepop:

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

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v excited for when britain recreates a hard border in ireland this new year

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I haven't seen one here because they're probably afraid they'll get murdered here.

they won't come near where i live in the city of detroit but they definitely go through the suburbs around here

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


endlessmonotony posted:

You want to fight the status quo by voting for Joe Biden?

You know what. I ain't no fan of the status quo or of Trump. I most sincerely wish you luck and hope you succeed.

i think y'all are just screaming past eachother
the immediate, short term pain is donald trump making things way worse than joe biden would
it's obvious joe biden will not stop making things worse, he'll just slow it down a lot
is that worth it? there's a lot going on in that question. i'm not an accelerationist, and think things can sometimes get worse without making it possible for things to get better, so i think no. but i think thinking voting biden is too morally, uh, compromising to do, and that's totally valid. but i also think voting biden in a swing state is equally valid. making the case that it doesn't improve anything is important but sort of moot right now.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


but just like, the very immediate right now. the first thing, if biden wins, is in 2021 emphasizing how lovely he is and how real change must be made and affected, because things WILL continue getting worse for everyone*.

*rich white dudes need not apply

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


when joe biden pardons donald trump i expect rioting in the streets. i guess i dont expect it, but that should be a bare minimum of the civic response.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


Roosevelt posted:

i think it's mostly republicans who are claiming that he's a radical leftist

people who dont plugin to politics probably think he's at least a leftist, which is wrong but, again, people who aren't plugged in think that weird sht

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Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


okay i really get your reaction, i promise i understand, but it is also correct people's votes are literally disenfranchised in innumerable ways. ffs, when i lived in chicago people bragged about how i lived like sardines so deserved less voting power

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