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they (well, just Fagen now) are known to be very picky about giving sample clearance and if they say yes they demand a ton of money up front and a co-writing credit giving them potentially an equal share of the publishing forever.
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my favorite sample, a much more interesting part to take out of context for Black Cow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdgOxiiwwNs
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AHH F/UGH posted:Fagan and Becker loving suck for what they demanded of Tariq and Gunz. For such self-proclaimed industry outsiders they sure loving love that money and being bitter assholes. “steely Dan’s music was terribly recorded” is quite a hot take
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Edit ^^^^ this is the first sample I haven’t heard ITT and it’s very neat, ty for posting Deep Glove Bruno posted:I think that is totally uncontroversial take - their songs sound like doggshit and I'd rather listen to something with some low end saturating the hell out of a microcassette with worse musicians. the "audiophile" world is nearly 100% psychos emperors new clothes-ing each other to ludicrous extremes so the fact that they ride so hard for steely dan fits perfectly. they are maniacs, don't listen to them. every rap song that sampled steely dan is better than the sampled song. every project pat song is better than every steely dan song. I got very into steely Dan as a kid in the 90s and 00s and was fairly alienated in my crusade to convert my friends. in the last 5 or so years though I’ve had probably a dozen people tell me that they finally “get” steely Dan now. for the record I think it’s completely fine not to like steely dan and can understand being turned off by their music, particularly the very clean aesthetic, but in my experience it is only a matter of time until you love them, at which point I will welcome you with open arms
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Oct 17, 2020 21:48
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AHH F/UGH posted:Steely Dan having bad recording quality and terrible mixing is far from the wildest hot take and it's widely known among production engineers, especially the drum mixing and the extremely overblown mids. Again, if you want to hear good recording production from the same time, you can just put on Give Me the Night or In Flight. George Benson is great but I have a hard time believing that’s a widely held belief by recording engineers, do you have any examples? Like I’m sure steve albini hates the way Gaucho sounds but every sound guy I know uses Babylon Sisters or IGY to tune a new PA
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Oct 17, 2020 22:02
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Torquemada posted:Ironically I think Keith Jarrett only asked for a credit when they stole the title track from Gaucho from him. Yeah, he essentially did the same thing they do for samples with a writing credit. Not sure how it breaks down financially exactly but generally that means he’s getting close to an equal share of mechanicals, publishing, etc for that song.
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i’m just glad we can all agree that Steely Dan is extremely good
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