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apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
preferably a socialist organization. its difficult to get involved in socialist or left politics because there isnt a mass socialist or workers party in the US and so if we want something like that we have to build it. im a member of socialist alternative and would encourage anyone here looking to join a marxist political organization to check us out and feel free to pm me if you have any questions or wanted more info but also can look at our website: https://www.socialistalternative.org/get-involved/

theres also a whole DSA thread in this sub which you should also consider joining or looking into, theyre currently running a membership drive to reach 100k members. theres a wokrplace organizing thread which is pinned to the top of the sub forum. theres also a myriad of other unions, organizations, parties, etc. whos politics you may find you align with and i encourage anyone whos a member of one to drop their info and pitch into the thread or discuss them here. politics is (unfortunately) something you have to be an active participant in and the kind of organization necessary to effect a real change in society isnt one that you can just join, its one you will have to actively and consciously build yourself, so everyone go and do that.

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apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
im bumping this again because the workplace organizing thread took forever for anyone to care about and i realize its a lot for people to post about genuinely getting active politically or trying to recruit people to their orgs when theres not a picture of a sexy rabbit police officer in the op

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

bumping thread, get invovled with SAlt or PSL, local orgs in your area

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Here's a nice post from another "website" about the importance of organizing and the importance of doing lovely thankless and boring work in service of working class power

quote:

So far in the alt media there is an overwhelming concentration on the flashy aspects of the Twin Cities uprising that started on Tuesday. It makes sense, the rocks being thrown, protesters being hit in the head with rubber bullets, boog boy fascists with AK-47s, and burning buildings are much more in line with our media culture than the long, slow, and grinding work of committed and dedicated communists on the ground doing thankless tasks. I hope to illuminate some of this background information for people so you can begin to apply these same tactics and bring this information into your communities to create solidarity actions like we've seen all across the us.

The story of the twin cities uprising began much earlier with the murder of Jamar Clark in 2015. Jamar Clark was a black man murdered by the police, most likely on the ground while handcuffed. Protests were organized by BLM and this was the birth of TCC4J, who has been truly at the heart of mobilizing this movement and doing the grunt work. Intermittent protests went on for months, with the end result being that no charges would be filed. This was the birth of a mass org, TCC4J (Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar). Since the birth of TCC4J, there have been dozens of black men killed by the twin cities police. Protests and community work have been done for each one including the celebration of birthdays for the killed each year, bringing in national speakers to the university to talk about racism and police repression, events on the days they were murdered, and organizing for the prosecution of the police for months. Attendance for these events has ranged from a dozen people to thousands, all the while the organizers on the ground have been tirelessly working to build the political education of people around why mass action against the police is necessary. One of the most powerful aspects of these events is the families of the killed is the involvement of family members in the movement to bring their stories and humanize the victims.

One of the most impactful of these was the work done to organize against the murder of Philando Castile. Castile was pulled over in a routine traffic stop, he notified the police officer that he was legally concealed carrying a firearm, and within 30 seconds the police officer started shooting up the car. A video from the passenger went viral as it clearly showed that this was a police crime. There were multiple protests, community meetings, and acts of civil disobedience planned against this event by TCC4J with thousands of protesters showing up. The officer in this case at least had charges filed against him, was found not guilty, but the city of St Anthony paid 3 million as part of a civil lawsuit.

Another major spark was the movement around freeing Myon Burrell, who was jailed for life by Amy Klobuchar so she could build a "tough-on-crime" image for re-election on lovely evidence.

quote:

It is known that the MPD illegally held Myon despite requests for his mother and legal representation. It is well known that Klobuchar chose to use an unreliable jailhouse informant to convict Myon, ignoring statements of two other suspects that Myon was not present.

After the Minnesota Supreme Court overturned Myon’s conviction based upon flawed, missing and false evidence, Klobuchar chose to try Myon again, because she was unwilling to lose a “victory” in her fight on crime. After Klobuchar became a senator, it was Mike Freeman who oversaw Myon’s second case, which found a conviction based upon Freeman knowingly using the same flawed evidence and a biased judge.

During what was supposed to be Amy's last public appearance of her campaign, TCC4J and other activists took over the stage and sound system and protested for hours, forcing Amy to cancel the event.

On the national scale, there is organizing being done with the National Alliance Against Racist and Police Repression, a rebirth of a movement from the 70s to free political prisoners and organize for community control of the police. Last year, there was a foundational conference with almost 1,000 attendees who have been working to build up similar organizations in their communities. There is a national day of protest called by NAARPR for this Saturday, so check to see if you have anything going on locally: https://naarpr.org/updates/cities-join-the-call-for-national-day-of-protest/

One of the incredible shifts that has happened with the murder of George Floyd is that the killer cops were fired within 1 day of the event, this is considerable progress from 5 years ago where they refused to even press charges against killer cops. That day, a protest was called for and organized a march from the murder site to the precinct with a coalition of disparate groups united around getting justice. Once at the precinct, there was a separation of space for those who wanted to escalate against the police and those who didn't. The detail of the events at the People's Republic of Target and Autozone will be covered by other sources since that's way sexier, so I'll let other people fill in the gaps here.

One of my favorite chants from this movement is: "Indict, convict, send these killer cops to jail! The whole drat system is guilty as hell!" This is centered on both the immediate demands while condemning the entire police and prison system and calling for community control of the police. The story of what's going on in Minneapolis isn't a reaction to one night, this is the result of years of work, community organizing, and political education to get people to normalize and support radical actions against police and political figures when they commit crimes. The real story is that this shows how mass organizations with dedicated communists at the center can create real political change with a very small base of activists.

I've had the pleasure of working to some NAARPR people as well as those from other organizations. In my personal opinion the most important organizations are those that help workers in the lowest strata of Amerikan class society like prison and immigrant advocacy organizations. If you live in Texas RAICES is another wonderful group that does a lot of legal advocacy and protection for immigrants. And it's important to work with organizations in the legal sector in a broader sense since you'll end up in situations like this where PSL protestors were arrested by the cops and are currently detained and awaiting trial on fabricated rioting charges. Even organizations which are not explicitly Marxist are necessary in situations like this

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
in the UK there was a very wide activist base in Momentum, although I found myself net frustrated with the organization it is an excellent place to meet other organizers (within the Labour framework admittedly). the Labour party is there, also - i think i've had enough CLP meetings for a bit personally but there is still good work being done, particularly at the council level. i was also affiliated with RS21 for a long time and they're a good group of people - split from the SWP after the whole comrade delta thing.

like, turn up to demos and you won't struggle to find eight people trying to recruit you to some political organization. if i was going to simplify most of the things i advise people it's "turn up to demos".

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
im part a gaming clan op

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
its easy and fun to join the dsa and have flame wars, but IRL :dukedoge:

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Victory Position posted:

bumping thread, get invovled with SAlt or PSL, local orgs in your area

i think it would whip rear end to do some poo poo for the PSL.

Also this isn't really on topic for this thread but im on the neighborhood council and it it's really fun. you don't have to run for a seat if you don't want, but join a committee. dont cost nothing and you can do some cool stuff. i do theatre for my living so now i do zoom shows and obs ninja content etc so we did a show on redlining and a fuckload of ppl watched it on social media and maybe got a little fired up about some bad poo poo. kinda inspiring to think u might galvanize someone into political action to make the world a little better.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Smythe posted:

i think it would whip rear end to do some poo poo for the PSL.

Also this isn't really on topic for this thread but im on the neighborhood council and it it's really fun. you don't have to run for a seat if you don't want, but join a committee. dont cost nothing and you can do some cool stuff. i do theatre for my living so now i do zoom shows and obs ninja content etc so we did a show on redlining and a fuckload of ppl watched it on social media and maybe got a little fired up about some bad poo poo. kinda inspiring to think u might galvanize someone into political action to make the world a little better.

hell yeah, that sounds extremely rad

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

The DSA MN sucks, and PSL is a trot cult.

Impkins Patootie
Apr 20, 2017





apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

PawParole posted:

The DSA MN sucks, and PSL is a trot cult.

hmmm, mayhaps it would be beneficial to explain organizations that people should join and why you think that in the thread about joining a political organization instead of just making GBS threads all over the ones you have a grudge against? for example, I dont particularly care for the PSLs politics and have many criticisms of them but am not bringing them up here because of the threads purpose and so instead will just say despite whatever disagreements I have with them, I still find a lot Jodi Dean's writing very useful for revolutionary organizing.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
No than you

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
I genuinely think - goons in particular - people sleep on the social opportunities that this kind of organization offers. Like, most of us live lives where we can't really articulate our political ideals in most arenas of public space - certainly not fully. There is absolutely value finding some place or cause or movement that needs it, doing some good and just hanging out with people whom you at least mostly agree - finding your tribe of like minded people and seeing how that feels.

Like the perfect opposite of Thanksgiving dinner with family members. Instead of tip-toing around political topics you can actually express them, learn to argue persuasively and help build something.

If you do wind up joining Labour in the UK or probably even the SNP or the Scottish Greens or something - the latter of which I have some affection for as I know comrades in - make some noise in the UKMT, there may be goons who go to your CLP or demos or what have you and can help you get involved.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

The hotter, the wetter, the better
agreed, smythe should absolutely join PSL

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

lumpentroll posted:

agreed, smythe should absolutely join PSL

if you're going to say something sucks can you at least frame it in a constructive way? like, above i outlined why I never affiliated with the SWP (the comrade delta thing). you can google that and make an evaluative decision on that organization on those merits.

things like "is a trot cult" is not helpful - if there was a genuine reason not to join the PSL then I, who figured out after several googles it didn't stand for "playstation league", have no idea what you mean. everything a trot touches gets called a trot cult, with more or less justification. and i can't really action that impulse towards joining a political organization.

e: and that's assuming i'm reading your post correctly! i'm not even sure if you're actually being supportive or being sarcastic.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
err it was a different poster who said the trot cult thing lol apologies!

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvG8c8aVtl8

Gaupo Guacho
Aug 5, 2010

by Pragmatica
nah

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Gaupo Guacho posted:

god I wish those milita chuds had successfully kidnapped that libatarded woman in Michigan and executed her. that would have sent the libtards into an epic fail tizzy lmao

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Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


Already a registered Democrat OP

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

trolling c-spam by saying you should join a political organization

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

I don't post on c-spam about political organizing because the threads get toxic fast, but I joined the DSA in my area because of this stupid forum and it was a very good thing.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

The hotter, the wetter, the better

an actual dog posted:

trolling c-spam by saying you should join a political organization

it's the new tidus laugh

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

apropos to nothing posted:

preferably a socialist organization. its difficult to get involved in socialist or left politics because there isnt a mass socialist or workers party in the US and so if we want something like that we have to build it. im a member of socialist alternative and would encourage anyone here looking to join a marxist political organization to check us out and feel free to pm me if you have any questions or wanted more info but also can look at our website: https://www.socialistalternative.org/get-involved/

theres also a whole DSA thread in this sub which you should also consider joining or looking into, theyre currently running a membership drive to reach 100k members. theres a wokrplace organizing thread which is pinned to the top of the sub forum. theres also a myriad of other unions, organizations, parties, etc. whos politics you may find you align with and i encourage anyone whos a member of one to drop their info and pitch into the thread or discuss them here. politics is (unfortunately) something you have to be an active participant in and the kind of organization necessary to effect a real change in society isnt one that you can just join, its one you will have to actively and consciously build yourself, so everyone go and do that.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

it's a good idea to learn a trade and join your union and then perhaps get involved in organizing and maybe even some day be a socialist that works in organized labor.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

i'm a dsa member and if anyone has questions feel free to ask and i can probably find someone who knows the answers

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

an actual dog posted:

trolling c-spam by saying you should join a political organization

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010
your group seems cool but the nearest branch is two hours away from me :(


lol

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWPj2jFVUA

Maximo Roboto has issued a correction as of 17:13 on Oct 10, 2020

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I quit the Labour party a while back op after being a member through corbyns leadership

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Too busy voting for the party controlled by billionaires. No the other one.

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Jose posted:

I quit the Labour party a while back op after being a member through corbyns leadership

from what ive heard youre not alone. UK comrades recently explained that almost every week theres a new exodus from labour due to starmers failed leadership and capitulation to the government. they also said though that people arent leaving cause theyre dejected, theyre leaving cause they want something better so thats a good sign imo

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
I was active in Our Rev during the primary and am proud to say our branch lead more canvasses than anyone else in our corner of Ohio til you get north enough to abutt Cleveland's branch. It's all fallen apart since the failure of Bernie's campaign of course.

I'd love to join the SRA group that is rumoured to be starting locally but it hasn't materialised for months.

Edit) There is a small but active DSA chapter in the city north of me but the bus line connecting to my town is sporadic :/

Yadoppsi has issued a correction as of 18:00 on Oct 10, 2020

Gaupo Guacho
Aug 5, 2010

by Pragmatica
I mean I hate the libtards from the left… there's no group out there hardcore enough for me

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

an actual dog posted:

trolling c-spam by saying you should join a political organization

Lol

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Hello cspam, first time poster here but I heard this is a good forum for finding fellow friends and “comrades” who are also left wing. Some of the things I do include collectively organizing my workplace, being a member of a political organization, eating vegan, tipping well at restaurants, thinking more about the political future of my own country than fantasizing about countries which existed in the past, reading books on politics to learn more, giving money to homeless people, having conversations with people in real life, and making friends & being friendly towards other people. What are some things you guys like to do in your spare time?

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Gaupo Guacho
Aug 5, 2010

by Pragmatica
it was a randomly assigned Av………

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breadnsucc
Jun 1, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
organizations suck because they always fall towards liberalism

lmao DSA spent the last four years promoting local candidates and none of them even made it past the primary (where i live)

WHAT A GREAT USE OF TIME AND MONEY

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