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idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

4, 3, 2, 1
For the sake of unity we should avoid existing power centers as much as we can.

As a leading scientist from the California Republic, I recommend we continue the recent assignment of groups under Matveyev. Nikitin should be assigned 10-15 labs to study Genome Sequencing. I can bring to bear California's knowledge of computing to Sensors and Control systems, if my comrades would pick an appropriate project (what are the available choices there?). Any remaining labs should be split between Vasilyev and Sergeyev to an appropriate logistics project.

And I second the motion to work towards a permanent base on the moon.

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idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Research: I-02, of course
Industry: F-06
F-07: Yes. There is a slight conflict with I-02, surely the party leadership can develop a reasonable resolution.
DP-05: Yes!

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Research: JR-14, Status Quo, JR-12
NM-08: Yes
NM-09: Yes
K-10: Yes
B-11: Abstain
JR-13: Yes

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The California Republic echos the plan to make Luna an industrial center. As well, we welcome the efforts of the Socialist Aid program and offer the wide lands of the west for resettlement. The climate is well-suited for rapid growth, and the Central Valley can supply food to meet the worlds' needs. The only limit is labor.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Even if we limit our surveys to the inner part of the system, we should survey the asteroid belt now.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Boksi posted:

It'll take a long time and most asteroids will have nothing of value, and what asteroids do have valuable deposits of TNEs won't have big ones. That's why I want to focus on the planets and moons of the solar system first - not only are the finds potentially more valuable in terms of resources, some of them are also potential colonies. We may even be able to terraform them. The asteroids can come later, especially since we don't have the technology to exploit them efficiently yet.

I stand corrected.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The California Republic's vote are:

Luna: BCAD
Gladio: BACD
Survey Ships: B
Survey Priorities: ABC
S-17: Yes
F-18: Yes
F-19: Abstain
JR-20: No, we agree with the other objections
A-21: Yes
S-22: Yes, but only after the survey ship technological improvements
Y-23: No, the ideas are interesting but Californian researchers insist they are impractical. They keeping babbling about 'Big O', whatever that means. When they have concrete proposals, they will be forwarded.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California proposes the Computer Science Network (CSNET). Computer Science departments throughout the Comintern will receive funding or authorization as needed to connect to the existing ARPANET. All existing ARPANET nodes will be simultaneously upgraded to use the TCP/IP protocol to ease the expansion of the network.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Prefixes: D, E, F, G, A B, C
Research: C, D, A, B
Socialist Aid Program: A, B, C
I-24, Repeal the No First Strike Doctrine: Abstain
A-25, Service Medals: Yes
K-26, Adoption of a Revolutionary Rank Structure: Yes
F-27, Drunken Industrial Bear: Yes
F-28, Research Optimization Cleanup: Yes
F-29, A Ten-Year Service Medal: Yes
L-30, Low-Gravity Infrastructure: No, let's postpone this
I-31, Five-Year Plans: No
H-32, The Mars Program: Yes
N-33, the TNE Reuse, Reduce, and Recycling Act: No
N-34, the Public Broadcasting Service: Yes
S-35, FESTER: No
A-36, Space Autonomy Model: Yes
A-37, A Common Language for Space: Yes

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California also supports low-orbit recon followed by sending a team of trained archelogists.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

HiHo ChiRho posted:

I am formally proposing that we start working efforts to realign the remaining ex US polities in North America to being under the Comintern.

Seconded

Asterite34 posted:

2) Proposal for EM and Thermal scan of Mars in anticipation of a formal Xenoarcheology expedition to Cydonia. The Cydonia Ruins are potentially incalculably valuabe, but we can't rule out that they're not as dead as we'd like. A further orbial scan can be done per Foxfire_'s earlier workshopping:

Also seconded

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

zanni posted:

Greetings from the Cascadian Workers Collective, happy to finally be working with you all! I've spent the last week studying the legislative archives after being appointed the representative of the CWC and look forward to taking part in our shared future!

I hope this isn't presumptuous, but I have a proposal I've been working on, the Indigenous Nations Reparations Act. To put it simply; I believe it is our duty as proper socialists to see those sovereign native nations that have been abused and exploited see their lands returned to them, and see repayment for the suffering and poverty they've been forced into.

This would take the form of;
-Returning lands to the native nations that they belong to.
-Paying monetary reparations.
-Giving full assistance in rebuilding of infrastructure, agriculture, housing, and anything else needed.
-Recognizing each indigenous nation as a lawful and sovereign independent nation.
-Prioritizing TNE industrial construction and development in indigenous nations.

This would of course apply to any indigenous peoples on any continent.

We have a responsibility to try to make amends for the evils of colonial and capitalist exploitation and violence. I believe this would be a first step in fulfilling that.

The People's Republic of California happily seconds this!

(I had been trying to think of something along those lines but couldn't quite piece it together)

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

ooc: My support for decolonization is envisioning a bit less, I suppose. I'd like to imagine a world where some BS from my hometown is impossible (a Chumash burial ground got mostly bulldozed for a Wal-Mart, apart from 1.5 acres preserved after much negotiation. 1.5 acres completely surrounded by the parking lot, which is certainly not what I'd want for the graves of my ancestors). Well, that crossed with the recent efforts of real-life California to assist in the return of sacred sites to tribes. Full autonomy is perhaps extreme, but the kind of fight we're having now is half the fun of a you play!

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

ooc: How do scientists improve in this game? However it happens, someone needs to propose that process happening for me. That bonus is atrocious and I'd like to be useful.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California votes:

SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy - No, we should spend the resources elsewhere for now
SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans - Yes
HC-40, Integrate North America - Yes
S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology - Yes
A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins - Yes
JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act - Yes
I-44, Administrative Overhaul - Yes
I-45, Diplomatic Overtures - Yes
P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0 - Yes
NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project - Yes
F-48, Organizational Capacity - Yes
F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency - Yes
P-50, X-COM - Yes
Z-51, IRPA - Yes
I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development - No
W-53, Lunplan Expansion - Yes
W-54, Medals - Yes
W-55, Rename the Comintern - Yes
H-56, More Medals - Yes

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California agrees with the call to immediately respond while readying a mission within a few weeks. If we need to send aid sooner we can, but after all this time it's unlikely to be necessary.

And if any are concerned about such minor affairs, after their misdeeds privates Orr and May have been reassigned to Fort Hunter Ligget, where they are working with the Salinan peoples to improve local infrastructure for the tribe.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California commends our comrades focusing on the humanitarian issue. Defense may be a concern soon, but is not required at the emergency session.

While in full support of the Face of Mars Act and the creation of Camp Helium, I must emphasize the importance of providing food as quickly as possible. They can make their current food sources stretch, but they are likely nutritionally deficient and unpleasant to eat. By providing a supply of fresh food we will not just better ensure their health while we wait on permanent solutions, but ensure they feel receptive to us which will aid in all further work.

Also, that joke about eventually needing to crack sleeping tubes is disquieting and makes me worry about just what their alternative food source might be.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Kitfox88 posted:

A will to survive enables many unpleasantries, but yes let’s not let it reach that stage.

I'm hopeful it was just gallows humor, but nevertheless it indicates their frame of mind.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

NewMars posted:

You know, sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who can't stand Peter Watts.

Crazycryodude posted:

His novels sound a lot better as thought experiments than actual entertaing prose.






Also the torture's not great.


I find for me I can also only take so much cynical bleakness at a time.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

I firmly agree with proposals to have a quarantine of some form. We will do our best to make it a pleasant one, but bringing them to Earth too quickly has the potential to be completely disastrous.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The Awake: C
The Asleep: C
The Site: C D,
now that it's an option
The Discord: Y

idhrendur fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Dec 26, 2020

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Yeah, that's thoroughly unpleasant, and I'm glad it wasn't worse.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Welcome back! And joining in the hype!

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

I'll be really curious for the investigative team to plot the where and when of the abductees. Are there patterns? Was it a random collection? Can we deduce the why behind it all? And as mentioned, what's in the ones that don't have humans?

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California cannot agree to those terms as they stand. Japan is the equivalent of the PRC, not the Comintern.

However, this indicates we should fast-track the efforts to establish Luna as an independent state. We need to be able to demonstrate that we have no colonies and are not colonizers, so we can insist on the same if and when Japan gets to space independently.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

paragon1 posted:

The Lunar Rail Act

A train network should be constructed for Lunagrad that services all Lunar settlements and ports. This network should extend beyond the current settlements in accordance with locally dictated development plans regarding settlement expansion and TNE resource exploitation.


TDS posted:

Lest we forget, I propose the HEAVY Act

HEAVY Act An act that requires that at least two research labs be allocated to researching artificial gravity for use on the Moon, as well as other low-gravity bodies, with secondary usage aboard ships and orbital habitats.

Redeye Flight posted:

The Deutsche Volksrepublik would like to formally propose the following:

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WORLD SOCIALIST EXHIBITION

The non-socialist nations of the world appear to be continuing to labor under the pre-GRW impression that the Communist Interplanetary is a single, monolithic entity in the vein of the empires of old, which exists to crush, homogenize, and subjugate the world. This is self-evidently untrue to those of us inside of it, but we are all aware of the lasting power of propaganda.

To that end, the DVR proposes a grand exhibition of the benefits of socialism, in the vein of the Worlds' Fairs of prior decades. Individual countries can provide demonstrations of the economic, social, and cultural benefits brought by their socialist revolutions or evolutions. The objective is to present, for the capitalist worker, direct and concrete examples of the benefits they can expect from a socialist goverment -- and SHOULD be expecting from theirs. In this way we will set an example that the capitalists cannot possibly match, or exhaust themselves trying to.

In the case of my own DVR, for instance, the states and unions have developed plans to showcase the speed of the national reconstruction, the development of our new industry, improvements in education, literacy, healthcare, womens' rights. The Ministry for Housing has plans to construct a full demonstration example of a Roteshaus-program apartment, complete with simulated courtyard view, and the Ministry for Transportation has drafted comparisons of commutes.

This would take the form of an exhibition held either directly within Japan/India/etc., possibly moving from country to country, or if this proves too onerous, located in a "neutral" location such as Spain, Turkey, Singapore, to be determined. Each participating country would assemble their own exhibition, if they feel they can provide a physical exhibit; those who cannot would be encouraged to contribute video footage to provide representation. The exhibits being prepared by the individual countries is considered important, to avoid the impression that the whole operation is a top-level Cominterp design.

A secondary objective if possible is to undertake this with minimal strain on the overall Cominterp budget, with the alliance handling top-level organization/infrastructure/transit and the actual operations being funded directly by the participating countries. Costs where prohibitive are to be spread out to the more prosperous countries, such as my own.

A concrete date for the debut of this exhibition has not been decided upon as of the time of this legislation, but should be undertaken as soon as feasible for the smaller participants, so as to coincide with the rest of our diplomatic blitz.

The People's Republic of California seconds all these proposals.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California proposes the following:

Water Act
On Earth, water infrastructure shall be built out using TNE technologies. Water shall be sourced from renewable sources such as oceans or seas, and previously-used sources that had been overused allowed to recover. All people within Comintern territories must have the right to clean, safe, accessible water. Where possible, drained aquifers, seas, lakes, rivers, and other damaged natural features shall have dedicated infrastructure restoring them until no longer necessary.

(I don't imagine this as having any in-game effects, its just flavor on things we're already doing. Nevertheless, restore the Aral Sea! The Colorado River! The Ogallala Aquifer! Pipes from the Pacific over the Rockies! Desalination everywhere!)

Cultural Heritage Repatriation Act
A process for repatriating cultural artifacts shall be developed. This does not preclude museums continuing to display artifacts if the proper owners agree to a sharing agreement, but no longer can it simply be assumed that because some art was looted a century ago that a museum or collector gets to keep it.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Pacho posted:

For the cyclops and U-boat crew I'd suggest that the debriefing/psychological XCOM team pick a group of the ones they consider ready to travel to earth, do a press conference informing the world that an alien facility has been found on Mars, that it apparently belongs to the Roswell aliens, that there are humans in stasis and that MOSA is 24/7 investigating to release them. Then have the survivors say some words. Have them do a world tour showing them the bright socialist future with plenty of cameras and let them go wherever they want afterwards with the warning that we cant guarantee their safety in non-aligned former US polities. We may call it the Bring Them Home Initiative

Seconded

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

NewMars posted:


11. The Bureau of Public Health Act: This will create an international organization devoted to increasing the medical welfare of the entire globe. Divisions will include vaccination programs, warzone medical teams and the creation of international healthcare standards as well as the means to uplift medical sectors in comintern countries to meet them.

Enthusiastically seconded!

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

sebmojo posted:

Mr bates, the document is missing these two proposals.

No to both, just because we're doing so many things already. Though no doubt Cydonia discoveries will give California a new opinion next year.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

No matter what, launch the Missile Defense Satellite. No matter what else we choose, we want to option to stop it hard if need be.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

idhrendur posted:

No matter what, launch the Missile Defense Satellite. No matter what else we choose, we want to option to stop it hard if need be.

Okay, okay, people are talking me down a bit. A patrol of destroyers will be more than sufficient to keep them from doing anything bad.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

5:40 pm, Pacific time

Commander Orr gave a small smile, just for himself. Two weeks ago the Revenge had been captured. The men at China Lake had set EXCALIBUR facing west 'just in case', and the cranes were just now getting ready to lift it to return the weapon to testing. The engineers had wanted to examine every nook and cranny after it had been moved the first time. Even though not fired, the manhandling to get a new device pointed in the general direction of the sub might have shaken something loose, and why waste the results of an impromptu field experiment? It would provide good experience of just how durable they were in the field and provide hints as to the maintenance that would be needed.

He began checking his email. He was no commander of the old guard, he operated his computer himself to check. The new Macintosh by Wozniak's Apple Collective was wonderful, allowing him to see messages from other military bases in a second window even as he read his mail in the first. As he was doing so, there was a notice. It seemed reactionary elements were showing their resistance to the course of history. No matter, they might sow some small chaos but would only reveal any reactionary groups left, making the socialist world all the more secure.

Nevertheless, he continued reading the reports as they came in. The sky darkened outside, the work crews got EXCALIBUR lifted and turned, and were beginning to crawl to the east when he saw the 8:44 update. He grabbed his phone and called the Lieutenant overseeing the work crew. "Stop everything! Get EXCALIBUR placed again, facing east. Yes immediately. I don't care about the possible damage, have it ready in the next few minutes. I'll have a track for you." He knew this was even more useless than the men's gesture two weeks ago. Not only did they still have no targeting, but Baikonur was almost perfectly halfway around the globe. And it wasn't like a shot would orbit, it was a straight shot or nothing. But if there was even a chance it came this far, he needed to be ready.

As a gunnery officer ran to Orr's office, Orr had already pulled up the tracking program. As it loaded he was already considering the possibilities. Luna? No, they would have gone east if they intended a full space launch. He saw messages on the screen speculating about Paris. If that was the target there was nothing he could do to help. He began loading data from reports of the spaceplane's trajectory. It was quickly obvious that no city could be the target, even as the report came of it cutting engines and going ballistic. His eyes were inexorably pulled to the intersection with another plot, even as the messages showed that others had reached the same conclusion. Interkosmos. And it would be still a quarter of the way around the world. Even with the world's most advanced weapon, there was nothing he or his base could do.

He knew he should call the crew again, try to limit any further damage from them too-rapidly moving it about. But all he would do was watch the trajectory lines in horror as a counter ticked down. 74...73...72...

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

We definitely need to get some orbital surveillance on the moon.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

PRCal is a continuation of the pre-existing state of California, in the American tradition of government. As such it strongly opposes ex post facto laws. As much as Hughes is disliked (and rightfully so!), he broke no laws worth enforcing. Indeed the constitution at the time allowed his anti-communist media campaign. That language has been removed, but been replaced with language explicitly forbidding ex post facto laws.

All of which to say, there's nothing to pardon. As for getting him involved with XCOM, that is a discussion for the Comintern as a whole.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Obliterati posted:

Also IRL (ex-)archaeologist here - there's absolutely nothing stopping us from sending actual archaeologists along with the cranks immediately AND developing xenoarchaeology at the same time. The actual techniques and tools that will form the subdiscipline of xenoarchaeology can be built down on Earth, sure, but there is no substitute for fieldwork in building that theoretical structure. Plus last I heard we have an absurd amount of kit that can survey and catalogue non-destructively from space. Even Earth-focused archaeologists of this era could do incredible things with those - they're like OTL LIDAR and ground imaging techniques on cocaine.

As such - start the cranks off on Earth, using all these tools to detect and investigate any alien presence here under the tutelage of actual archaeologists, before letting them on Mars proper. So long as they can operate an earth resistance meter properly they can still drop as much acid as they want, imo

E: you can also train them on the various pre-settlement sites on the Moon, dovetailing it with cultural heritage management (the 'that belongs in a museum!' branch of historical studies)

I'm in favor of this.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

At the California exhibition, the Homebrew Computer Club unveil the latest in their Apple line of microcomputers, the Macintosh. Designed by Steve Wozniak and Jef Raskin, it has an innovative graphical user interface, built-in screen, and introduces the 'mouse' as an input device to everyone outside the PARC labs in Palo Alto. Other microcomputers had been growing in popularity as home and hobbyist devices, but this promises to be even more popular.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

The People's Republic of California proposes the following:

California-Commintern Port Provision

California's naval bases shall be made available for all Commintern ships to refuel, resupply, undergo repairs, and provide shore leave.

Maritime Aid Act

National navies shall be required to provide reasonable aid to Commintern naval forces at request.

Computer Character Encoding Act

Current computers use a standard set of characters from the latin alphabet, with hacks providing characters outside that set, each hack incompatible with each other. A group shall be created to devise a system that can represent all characters that is backwards-compatible with ASCII and can be extended as needed. Once created, all new computer systems shall use this encoding system. Older systems are not mandated to by updated, but should be done so if feasible to ease communication with newer systems.
(so basically creating UTF-8 a five years early and getting it well adopted much much sooner)

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Antilles posted:

Adding Nobel Prizes as potential medals

Kalmar Union has in fluff restarted the Nobel Prizes a few years ago, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future no matter the outcome. This isn't so much an official vote as it is basically a poll on whether the rest of the CI view them as still sufficiently prestigious to ‘count’ as medals. It’ll by its nature primarily be medals for scientists, though I suppose the peace prize could be something of a wildcard.

Support to the Youth Sports Initiative

A vote on officially pledging support, in the form of material and logistics, to the volunteer Youth Sports Initiative. This will be spent building and maintaining various athletics facilities all over CI, especially in the areas devastated by war where rebuilding has focused on the essentials like shelter, clean water and medical services. It will also provide free transportation to teams/groups going to other countries for both ‘sports exchange programs’ and tournaments/competitions.
In addition to promoting healthy activity, a competitive spirit and sportsmanship in our youth the hope is it’ll bring future generations closer together from spending time in other polities and with fellow youths from other parts of CI.

Citizen’s Service

We propose starting a program (and probably a new ministry with ties to education, labor and the military) called Citizen’s Service, inspired by the old Draft programs but civilian in focus. When a CI citizen comes of age in their local polity they get to pick one of three ‘branches’ of service.
The civilian branch is a year working a job that their local community or one near theirs need doing, with allowances for desired career path (i.e. they wish to take over the family farm, they’ll spend a year as a farm hand at a different farm to see how they do things; they want to study medicine they’ll get a desk job/support job in a local clinic etc). In addition providing useful work for their local community they’ll also be trained during this year in rights, expectations, unions etc to prepare them for their future careers.
The ‘military’ branch is explicitly not considered part of the military (though it by necessity will require cooperation with the CI military be it instructors or training facilities) it’s for those planning a career in the military. It'll basically be a year-long in-depth bootcamp that’ll give them a more realistic idea of what military life will be so they’ll make a better-informed decision when eventually volunteering, if they sign up they can be fast-tracked into their service of choice, and will hopefully improve the quality of our soldiers.
And finally a ‘mixed’ service for those who want to experience a ‘military’/adventurous lifestyle for a little while, travel the world and do some good before settling down as a mechanic in Nowhere, Ohio. The trappings of military life (barracks, discipline, exercise etc) but instead of warfare they’re a highly-mobile source of manpower at disposal for whatever CI may need them for (helping out with the socialist aid program, food distribution, disaster relief etc). This will also be an something of an exchange program, where after an initial period relatively close to home an effort will be made to station them in an entirely different polity, preferably a different continent.

Seconded

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idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

PRCal encourages people to vote against CZ-99. While existing intellectual property law must be reformed or eliminated there should be provision for people to control sequels and spinoffs long enough to tell multi-part stories. As well, capitalist nations still exist and we must have a framework that accounts for them stealing ideas without sowing into the social systems that support the creators.

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