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Detheros
Apr 11, 2010

Great!




No Wave posted:

I will say, Geo goblet should give you a whole lot more damage, something like 20% more damage assuming identical substats (not a fair assumption ofc).

Eh, not interested, I like the memeness of just having a poo poo load of defense/large stat numbers, If I wanted to build her for actual dps I'd have more than 21.3% crit/90.4% crit damage and more atk% on her artis.

Also I just checked with Whiteblind buffs at 3/5 refinement she's at 5714 Atk and 3235 Def

Detheros fucked around with this message at 20:19 on May 4, 2021

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AParadox
Jan 7, 2012


No Wave posted:

I will say, Geo goblet should give you a whole lot more damage, something like 20% more damage assuming identical substats (not a fair assumption ofc).

Crit hat/ele goblet will almost always beat straight stat stacking but you don't get the satisfaction of the High number. I still regret swaping albedo's hat/goblet, 3K defense looks much better than 1.9K even if damage is almost 30% higher.

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007


Does anyone have any idea how daily commissions are assigned? I see a lot of people ITT complain about constantly getting the same ones, and I've gotten the Wangshu Inn one like 8 times in the last 10 days. It doesn't seem random.

Bloody Emissary
Mar 30, 2014

Powawa~n


RareAcumen posted:

What're his crit stats and artifacts? I'm one geo cube fight away from having the materials to take him up to 70 so I wanna know what to aim for so I can also build towards those meaty crits as well but I don't know if I should go by the spreadsheet when every so often I see people talking about Defender's Will being good enough to pull that kinda stuff off with too.

  • Level 80/90
  • 1,676 DEF total. In terms of artifacts bonuses, that's 85.3% DEF plus 167 flat value.
  • 75.5% Crit Rate (which includes the +28% crit rate when over 90% health from the Harbinger of Dawn passive)
  • 134.9% Crit Damage
  • 2pc Archaic Petra + 2pc Gladiator's Finale. All are 5* artifacts. The gladiator set bonus doesn't do anything for his blossom damage, but I got really nice rolls on a DEF gladiator hourglass, so.
  • DEF hourglass, Geo DMG goblet, Crit Rate circlet. All are at +16 except for the hourglass, which is at +20.

Tanreall
Apr 27, 2004

Did I mention I was gay for pirate ducks?

~SMcD

aparmenideanmonad posted:

I just got a WGS today with my monthly shop blue wishes. First 5* weapon and only my second early 5* (pull 28).

I have a R0 serpent spine as well. Going to be interesting to see which works better on Ms. License Agreement.

Grats, I just got my first 5* weapon as well from the monthly blue wishes but I got a Skyward Pride and I don't have anyone who can use it right now.

Sanya Juutilainen
Jun 19, 2019

Every slur offends someone and people will just rebrand other words to slurs / potentially offensive meanings (see also: gay, trap) which will then get banned, eventually at some point the language will run out of words.


at some point the language will run out of words.

Zokari posted:

Does anyone have any idea how daily commissions are assigned? I see a lot of people ITT complain about constantly getting the same ones, and I've gotten the Wangshu Inn one like 8 times in the last 10 days. It doesn't seem random.

You get 3 generic ones and 1 more interactive one. It's random. "like 8 times in the last 10 days" is exactly how random stuff works, sadly (which is why many games avoid it).

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






These last two pages put into perspective why I might have trouble with some things and other people aren't.

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007


I really think there's more to it than that. Your commissions are always in either Liyue or Mondstadt. Assuming those are 50/50 odds that's already only a 5% chance to have it happen 8 times in 10 days. And then there's how many special commissions in Liyue, the odds of it picking that specific one so often seems vanishingly low. The fact that a lot of people complain about this seems more than purely random.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

Yogg-Saron fan #1


It's almost certainly not completely random, I'm sure they have various probabilities attached. I'm assuming "Small Step For Hillichurls", "Spreading Evil", and "Emergency" are everyone's most seen commissions.

Bloody Emissary
Mar 30, 2014

Powawa~n


No Wave posted:

I'm assuming "Small Step For Hillichurls", "Spreading Evil", and "Emergency" are everyone's most seen commissions.

I see Pudgy Pyrotechnicians more often than Emergency.

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

You get 3 generic ones and 1 more interactive one. It's random. "like 8 times in the last 10 days" is exactly how random stuff works, sadly (which is why many games avoid it).

I'm pretty sure that the Wangshu Inn commissions (Business in a Marsh and Guest From Afar) are weighted more heavily in the interactive category. I get them pretty often. Sparrow Studies the Blade and the Unseen Razor also crop up more than others IME.

AParadox
Jan 7, 2012


Pudgy Pyrotechnicians and Increasing Danger(destroy two hilichurl towers), I always get at least one of the two, often both.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



No Wave posted:

20 of the 33 characters are good.
1 of the characters is Chongyun, who China seems to play a lot for reasons I can't understand.
10 don't seem to have real comps where they excel (I have leveled and geared three of these characters).
2 characters are Amber and Lisa.

Better emphasis on public education



No meta comps here

More Chongyun supremacy

https://i.imgur.com/iWFJAu3.mp4

Overall, I really enjoy this event. It can be frustrating, but only if you make it that way -- I nearly tore my hair out getting the clip, but I refused to get any less than 7500. The scavenger hunt aspect for fruit buffs is really neat, and cranking up the difficulty in the domains really brings back those old Abyss memories (for better or worse).



Zokari posted:

Does anyone have any idea how daily commissions are assigned? I see a lot of people ITT complain about constantly getting the same ones, and I've gotten the Wangshu Inn one like 8 times in the last 10 days. It doesn't seem random.

Maybe commissions with variants (i.e. kill hilichurls here instead of the place you did yesterday) are counted separately, so they can seem more common. I got the "find Anna" quests 3 out of the past 5 days, but each time a different spot.

AParadox
Jan 7, 2012


gandlethorpe posted:



No meta comps here

The first half team is close enough to the 3rd most popular comp to count imo. What is the plan on that team anyway? Using XL ult to melt chongyun attacks or are you trying to melt/vape her ult?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011



I think the commission I hate the most is the one where you gotta help that guy repair his balloon. Like just let me get the wood and rope at the same time or hell let me just give you some of my wood from my most recent deforestation run.

Story wise the commission I hate the most is the Geri one in Liyue. Come on man, youíre sitting at one of the best restaurants in another country and you want me to make you spaghetti?

My favorite commissions are the destroy the training dummies one in Mondstadt, any of the destroy two tower ones, and also the balloon escort commissions because theyíre all quick and easy. Especially the balloon escort because I found out you donít even need to escort the balloon. You can just run ahead and destroy the obstacles and then gently caress off somewhere to go mining/punching trees and youíll get credit as long as you donít teleport.

Except for the one version in Mondstadt where it makes you choose a path. gently caress that one.

E: Is there a spreadsheet where I can plug in artifact stats and itíll tell me which one is better for a specific character?

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 22:58 on May 4, 2021

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



AParadox posted:

The first half team is close enough to the 3rd most popular comp to count imo. What is the plan on that team anyway? Using XL ult to melt chongyun attacks or are you trying to melt/vape her ult?

The Bennett team doesn't have a carry, right? Just tons of energy generation to spam bursts, mostly due to having Bennett. I'd say my comp functions very differently, since everyone's just supporting best boi Chongyun. I don't really try too hard to set up specific reactions, since whatever happens is usually pretty beneficial (apart from like Diona triggering melt). Melt does around the same damage whether CY or XL procced it, and freeze gives me room to get autoattacks in.

BTW, freeze is a godsend versus the cicins in 12-2-1

AParadox
Jan 7, 2012


gandlethorpe posted:

The Bennett team doesn't have a carry, right? Just tons of energy generation to spam bursts, mostly due to having Bennett. I'd say my comp functions very differently, since everyone's just supporting best boi Chongyun. I don't really try too hard to set up specific reactions, since whatever happens is usually pretty beneficial (apart from like Diona triggering melt). Melt does around the same damage whether CY or XL procced it, and freeze gives me room to get autoattacks in.

BTW, freeze is a godsend versus the cicins in 12-2-1

After looking at a few low view count videos it looks like a normal bennet carry comp with XQ thrown in, so yeah its definitely different. Just looking at that team anyone of XL/CY/ bennet could be the carry. I guess they are using bennet as main carry to avoid breaking frozen with attacks and using his decent ratio skill and ult.

aparmenideanmonad
Jan 28, 2004
Balls to you and your way of mortal opinions - you don't exist anyway!

Fun Shoe

gandlethorpe posted:

BTW, freeze is a godsend versus the cicins in 12-2-1

Ning also destroys them - as opposed to the other 99% of the time when you're pissed that her autotracking rocks hit them instead of the mage, it's like, oh wow this is good for a change.

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?


dogsicle posted:

my xiao complaint is his burst plunge shouldn't stun vishaps so hard they recoil out of the range of subsequent plunges

The lightning fatui in the event, too. I swear the guy was skating backwards like ten feet on every plunge.

Xiao is extremely strong in straight-up fights where there's not bullshittery going on with crap on the floor/invulnerability phases/oops no energy/oops no skills/super spread-out enemies. If that wasn't the exact definition of how Mihoyo does difficulty he'd be a whole lot better. I'd consider ZL a requirement for him.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

Yogg-Saron fan #1


My cards are amazing today. Looking for a comp that can 3* 12-3-1 without using Xingqiu or Ganyu.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!


Brutor Fartknocker posted:

Could probably still use whoever and pop a electro resistance bottle for similar results.

unfortunately you can't because it also staggers you. maybe if you use someone who has stagger resistance. or idk zhong's shield lol

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



The internal cooldown on Cryo application from Chong's field is per character. With a 4 melee team, you can do pretty quick damage to elemental shields.

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever




I need a lower coffee table, but there's no real way to preview them right? any suggestions?

Traveller
Jan 6, 2012

WHIM AND FOPPERY



Got back to this and man is this second event domain unpleasant. Can't even do the second phase of it, and that's without any of the difficulty modifiers. At least I got Diona, she's cute.

Bloody Emissary
Mar 30, 2014

Powawa~n


padijun posted:



I need a lower coffee table, but there's no real way to preview them right? any suggestions?

The Intricately Carved Calligraphy Table, the Red Cedar Round Table and the Square Pine Tea Table (which is what you have) are all the same height.

You could try the Favonius Office Table or the two nightstands, but I suspect that they're all the same height or higher than the tables listed above.

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever


Bloody Emissary posted:

The Intricately Carved Calligraphy Table, the Red Cedar Round Table and the Square Pine Tea Table (which is what you have) are all the same height.

You could try the Favonius Office Table or the two nightstands, but I suspect that they're all the same height or higher than the tables listed above.

yeah, I just checked the favonius conference table and it's the same height. it must be a byproduct of the sitting points on the furniture having everyone's knees at a fixed height

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005



Fun Shoe

130+ posts! They must have revealed the new electro/dendro/EM mechanics!

*pages of is character bad*

Oh

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004



Haha.. well..

Maybe next week?!

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.


My Keqing with good support does more damage than when I switch to Ganyu and just stay in aiming mode all the time.

POLICE CAR AUCTION
Dec 1, 2003

I'm not a princess





Holy poo poo, got a Skyward Atlas 20 pulls after my last 5* (Keqing, still need to level/gear her lol) from the standard banner

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom


My only 5* weapon is the Skyward Spine.

Xiangling is still my only spear user.

Tsyni
Sep 1, 2004

I love you boy, One Pack, always.


Lipstick Apathy

YoshiOfYellow posted:

My only 5* weapon is the Skyward Spine.

Xiangling is still my only spear user.



Quick, pull Zhongli.

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom


Unfortunately Diluc trolled me on my pity on this banner.

Nakar
Sep 2, 2002

Ultima Ratio Regum


POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:

Holy poo poo, got a Skyward Atlas 20 pulls after my last 5* (Keqing, still need to level/gear her lol) from the standard banner
Can't really go wrong with that one. Unless you don't use any Catalyst characters. Or the only ones you use are Sucrose and Barbara.

Ultima66
Sep 1, 2008


So I got a Skyward Sword recently. Of Jean, Xingqiu, and Bennett, who should get what sword?

XQ Sac Sword is the obvious one since he has by far the longest CD and his E hits twice which makes the CD reset a lot more consistent. I guess technically speaking Bennett gets the most from Skyward's higher base attack since his Q's buff is based on his attack stat? And Jean is just gonna hit E once in a while to do a big chunk of damage so Festering Desire is probably pretty ideal there.

Nakar
Sep 2, 2002

Ultima Ratio Regum


It's pretty good for Jean or Bennett but since it does have higher Base ATK it is better on Bennett than Jean. Honestly they both benefit from it and Festering Desire so I don't think it makes a huge difference but you're getting almost 100 extra Base ATK on Bennett and that can potentially translate to >100 ATK from his buff depending on the skill level. 100 ATK isn't a tremendous amount more considering how much he's giving already and how hard it tends to overkill your ATK, but it's still an improvement.

As for XQ, yeah just keep Sac Sword on him, it's way too good at recharging him quick.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!


Ultima66 posted:

So I got a Skyward Sword recently. Of Jean, Xingqiu, and Bennett, who should get what sword?

XQ Sac Sword is the obvious one since he has by far the longest CD and his E hits twice which makes the CD reset a lot more consistent. I guess technically speaking Bennett gets the most from Skyward's higher base attack since his Q's buff is based on his attack stat? And Jean is just gonna hit E once in a while to do a big chunk of damage so Festering Desire is probably pretty ideal there.

lol bennett obviously

i put the flute back on jean. with that, her attack gets high enough that she can just facetank everything with her on-hit regen passive

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom


Oh neat I got C1 Yanfei. I wonder if the math nerds have worked her out yet and how good she's faring. Considering she's basically Pyro Ning I can't imagine she's bad.

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

Huh? What?



xiao's ult + xq's ult + jean's ult + zl's shield is some fun bullshit, i dont even need bennett

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






No Wave posted:

My albedo does 9700 crits to enemies <50% hp, no geo resonance, no zhong li shield. Level 80 ascended, level 8 isotoma, 2132 defense, 69.9% crit rate with harbinger active, 140.1% crit damage, 2 Noblesse + 2 strayer (lol), def sands+geo goblet+def hat at 20, feather+flower at 16.

2 Petra 2 Noblesse or 4 Millelith would be better but nobody else wants def artifacts so you end up with amazing pieces in off sets. The 2 Noblesse is basically accidental because I farm that domain a lot I don't really care about his Q damage. The 2 strayer is for sure completely accidental.

No Wave posted:

Harbinger is Harbinger of Dawn (or HoD), a 3 star gacha sword that's the preferred weapon for most Albedos. At refinement 5 its passive gives an extra 28% crit rate when Albedo has >90% HP.

Def is a bit easier to stack than atk because a DEF helmet gives 1.2x as much DEF as an ATK helmet gives ATK (58% vs 48%).

Actually I'm dumb and got that mixed up with the Travelers Handy Sword. One more thing to grind for! The highest I've got one of those right now is lvl 40 on Kaeya who hasn't been a frontline fighter in about 7 months.

Bloody Emissary posted:

  • Level 80/90
  • 1,676 DEF total. In terms of artifacts bonuses, that's 85.3% DEF plus 167 flat value.
  • 75.5% Crit Rate (which includes the +28% crit rate when over 90% health from the Harbinger of Dawn passive)
  • 134.9% Crit Damage
  • 2pc Archaic Petra + 2pc Gladiator's Finale. All are 5* artifacts. The gladiator set bonus doesn't do anything for his blossom damage, but I got really nice rolls on a DEF gladiator hourglass, so.
  • DEF hourglass, Geo DMG goblet, Crit Rate circlet. All are at +16 except for the hourglass, which is at +20.

Just collecting all these Albedo posts so I have some kind of guide to go by.

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Lobsterpillar
Feb 4, 2014


I've come to the realisation that I've been neglecting my characters artifacts. Some of them have only level 0 to 4 artifacts...
Who should I focus on getting better artifacts for: Bennett, Fischl, or Ning? Ning is kind of my go to at the moment and has a crit rate up helm, but not much else relevant and it's not a relevant artifact set. I haven't had done the geo domain much. She does about 2k per charged attack and 5-6k per crit.

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