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Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
is there any reason why basic functionality like, i don't know, being able to craft something multiple times didn't make it in?

I'm having ZERO fun click and holding CRAFT hundreds of times to upgrade my components for crafting.

8 years of dev time

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Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
game is aggressively okay when compared to w3 tbh

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
So, the set pieces are fun and the story is good. Everything open world is generally terrible to ok. This should have been a hub based game with zero open world to it imo

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Randarkman posted:

Even though I kind of agreed and have been pretty loud in criticizing lots of the game, particularly the open world bits (driving, traffic and pedestrian AI, wanted system and cops), I actually disagree. How the scope of Night City is conveyed is definitely this game's biggest strength, even if most of the time it's actually just a flimsy illusion, but my favorite thing to do is actually walking around and exploring parts of the city by foot, because there is lots of cool stuff to see and take in, even if you can't really interact with it at all in any manner.

I'm operating under the assumption that the main area uhhhh the region you start it in would be more vertically built up and that everything you listed in parenthesis would be fixed if the rest of the regions didn't exist

but i know that actually isn't necessarily true

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

fadam posted:

The cyberpsycho sniper you encounter after following a trail of bodies with sniper wounds is so cool. The scripted voice line "oh, gently caress" as you see the aggro indicator appear and the guy take aim at you is rad.

It's too bad like 99% of the discourse surrounding this game is about the lovely console version, bugs, and whether or not it's cyberpunk enough. I think there's a really awesome game with incredible moment-to-moment experiences underneath everything but a ton of people who bought this game can't experience it.

Game is ok. It has a really good main story and good side stories.

The moment-to-moment experiences outside of these contained, scripted events -- are really poor.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Firstborn posted:

Curated experience of Night City is so good. Interacting with gameplay systems pretty average. If this game was just cutscenes I would like it even more


Like a brain dance



whoooa

Yeah, earlier I said the game should have been hub based. I think curated experience is better put. I do think some of it is personal expectations and a lot of expectations brought on by CDPRs claims.

I didn't expect a Bioware talk fest outside of curated events but not being able to bullshit with cool NPCs very much sucked. I thought the phone call and test system would be more robust.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

fadam posted:

Gotta disagree. As I get new cybermods and weapons I'm finding cool new ways to eliminate bad guys during the crime quests.

They definitely should have just not done a big open world and went for more of a Deus Ex structure imo.

I don't mind the not-curated events, open world stuff but it's definitely not good. The open world genre has made huge strides and while I don't expect RDR, I also don't expect Crackdown, which is about equivalent in depth.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

fadam posted:

I'm the exact opposite. If the game was exactly the same but in a slightly bigger Kamurocho from Yakuza 0 or Prague from DXMD I think it'd be a way better experience. The "open world" should just be a connective tissue between all the side quest zones.

100% with you on this. The shame about this take is that the atmosphere is tremendous and they even got the Badlands vibes down perfectly too.

I actually don't mind the RPG level up mechanics tbh. They just hosed up about being so stingy about handing out blueprints. Give me a legendary armored trench coat bp pls so I can be a neo-noir cybermerc and not some rip off of Kaneda.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
For all my bitching the game does cool well.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Starks posted:

Playstation support is horrible. A few years ago they had a major breach that was in the news and my account got hacked. I logged in to see that my PS4 was no longer my "home" PS4 and found out someone was buying NHL card packs with my wallet funds (a game I don't even have). Contacted support and they would not refund me or help me get my account back, and the guy actually told me that if I kept contacting them I would be banned for account sharing. After hours of repeatedly contacting them again, I did end up getting the account back (but not the money).

i can't say that i find this to be Sonys fault

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Starks posted:

Who's fault was it exactly?

CDPR for announcing refunds w/o checking on Microsoft/Sony?

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Finished the main story and I chose the ending that the game deserves.

Committed Suicide

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

4000 Dollar Suit posted:

edit: gently caress it THANKS

lmao what happened here

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Next playthrough I'm definitely just cheating in high-end gear and clothes / armor that look cool. I either looked like an Arasaki mook or some turbo nerd wearing a business jacket, baggy pants, a samurai kabuto helmet, dress shoes and wrap around Bono shades that glow.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
lol the legendary machine gun still can only have one perk

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Khanstant posted:

If you meant mod slots, the mod slots of items are randomly rolled when you click on the pile. yikes!

lol it has six slots but you can only ever put one mod on it. I explained it badly in my earlier post.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
The entire loot system in this game is beat as hell. They really shouldn't have put in any sort of loot color / tier stuff at all.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

yegods posted:

Has there been any word from CDPR on how they're going to approach winning back all their fans? I've seen a few twitters posts, but nothing like the MEA CULPA you'd expect.

I for one loved the game, but finished it after 30 hours, where I really wanted to live in it for hundreds. I look forward to my next playthrough when things are fixed.

The game has a decent story but it's mechanically, fundamentally busted. I can't even imagine the effort it would take to fix this monstrosity.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Bust Rodd posted:

No I'm generally pretty critical of its shortcomings but I don't feel the need to behave like the game killed my parents batman style and had sex with my prom date

lol game is ok, no one is really freaking out on the same level of your defense of it hth

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
what of me bust, do not make me languish

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
I don't know why they didn't just make their items like how they did it in Dark Souls.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
I haven't seen Comte in a while. Did he bounce when the worm started turning on this game?

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Get the legendary smart weapon cybermod that, essentially, eliminates smart weapon rounds from missing.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Mesadoram posted:

Also, the Fixer doesn't talk down to you like a disappointed parent.


Which mod is that?

I wish I could remember the name. It goes on your hand slot.

Kraftwerk posted:

Is that the hand mod? Or is there an additional one for optical implants?

I think we're thinking of the same one.

I think it's called the Smart Link. The legendary version of it has a big buff to it. Smart weapons never missed ever again. The smart sniper rifle and SMG were particularly fun w/ this.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
i see the thread has hit the "actually, this game is quite, remarkably good and has improved (where it matters, to me) compared to its predecessor, Witcher 3, the most lauded RPG of its generation" stage

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Nobody said this.

Someone said this.

2house2fly posted:

Cyberpunk improves on Witcher 3 in all ways that matter to me (combat and role playing mainly) and in the areas where it isn't clearly superior it's often a lateral move (eg which game's world and art design you prefer will probably come down to whether you prefer lush fantasy environments or sci-fi skyscrapers in the desert)

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Vagabundo posted:

Oh cool, one person saying that is representative of everyone's opinion.

I did the bolding


TorakFade posted:


I'm loving the game and I'm already thinking of a second playthrough, but I'm going to wait for the patch for sure. I think the immersiveness helps my enjoyment a lot, I just love to walk around aimlessly, spotting the differences between the various neighborhoods, climbing buildings for fun and so on. I'd like more "action" immersion (i.e. being able to actually do some things in the world - but that's something no open world game has done decently imo except RDR2, and that's not perfect either) but this "artistic" immersion is good enough for me, I find the city interesting and enjoyable to walk around in while in GTA V it felt a lot more fake and empty.

I even enjoy driving! It reminds me more of Forza Horizon than GTA, and if I put any amount of attention into driving properly I can easily navigate the city, while still feeling "challenged" if I want to push my limits and tear at 140mph through a busy intersection. The only terrible thing is the non-zooming-out minimap, that's a crime and I really hope it's on the list for fixing in the first patch.

Yeah, of course you can see that the game is held togheter with duct tape (on PC there's plenty of bugs even if they're mostly not gamebreaking - had a grand total of 2 crashes and 5 reloads when some quest trigger bugged out in more than 100 hours) and someone pushed hard to release it when it clearly was not ready; but if the patches fix the most egregious bugs and problems, and some free DLC restores those parts of the game that I suspect were axed for lack of time and not of willingness/technical ability, there's a serious chance this will be my GOTY 2021

All in all, game good: one can enjoy it, and those who don't are of course entitled to it but should stop telling everyone that this is objectively a bad game because it's not. It is a good game to me already, and hopefully it will only get better.

Also Panam rules and her sidequest is the best in the entire game, no one will convince me otherwise :colbert:


sean10mm posted:

It clearly also hasn't left its drive-by shitposting stage.

I've been somewhat active here, c'mon now and I'm still engaging this is slander, sir

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

TorakFade posted:

drat, I'm sorry for enjoying a videogame :(

have fun my dude i was just pointing out the hypeness of it and countering the "you have no evidence post" followed by "thats only one person" post.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
It's probably because the game is more based on the west coast than east coast but I would have preferred Night City to have a dirtier, NYC style vibe. But that's just preference

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

graveportents posted:

LA is probably the dirtiest city I've ever been to tbh.

I haven't been there in 16 years and yeah L.A. was gross in some spots. The nice weather probably disarmed me to it. Also, I'm just probably more familiar with NYC's grime.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Jeff Fatwood posted:

The openworld FPS adventure game underneath is shackled by a terribly realized RPG. I wish they had gone with much simpler inventory mechanics and added depth with better weapon customization or whatever

Diablo style weapons and clothing was the most boneheaded decision imo. Getting the same exact weapon but "legendary" was not fun at all.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Mesadoram posted:

I would love a game like this set in 70's/80's NYC. NYC today is pretty nice.

This plague needs to end, I miss going out to Brooklyn with my friends :smith:.

Same, i miss the city immensely.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Vagabundo posted:

Meanwhile, I'm just here choosing not to go to the city because other than the odd COV-pos person being quarantined at the border, it's effectively been eliminated where I live. :smug:

We've had a hard go of things in the US.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
All it takes is a character that's better to simp after I guess

DXHR is a mechanically better, more sound game. What you upgrade / equip lines up with the information the game is telling you. Unlike this game, where you can wear too much armor so then it treats you like you aren't wearing any at all. Or how the goon showed us in the thread earlier, that equipping different items to enhance crits didn't correspond correctly.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

MadJackal posted:

Coming from PC, now I get it. Last gen console gameplay is beyond jank.

45 minutes of jank, proven in video form, and you caveat it with "Coming from PC." as if this stuff isn't reproducible on the PC.


It's really outstanding how hard people will bury their head in the sand. You can enjoy this game while understanding that it's been made badly. It's not mutually exclusive.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Sachant posted:

Whenever I see this I have to wonder if the person saying it has ever seen any video game marketing before.

Even if you take the marketing with a grain of salt, they didn't hit any metric they declared they would. With exception to the main story being good.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Sachant posted:

I'm curious what these metrics are and who set them.

If you haven't noticed any of the things they claimed the game would do or accomplish, I call bullshit. But feel free to google it.

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
River is easily the most half-baked NPC friend in the game. He grew on me a little bit by the end of his arc but something about how it started with him felt more railroaded then most.

I'll criticism the game to my hearts content (there is a lot to criticize) but the leap from that to threatening CDPR employees is lol.

hobbesmaster posted:

Hopefully it’s something they can revisit in patches or DLC.

lol this should be the name of the thread

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Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

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https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
ooops!

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