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Amnistar posted:I can't be scum if you're being honest about your wincon yami. I don't care if you are scum or not amni, you are wincon. I am just trying to explain why town has already lost. The reason is the following. And that either Grandi is lying about their N2, or you are. Grandicap posted:N1 Watch Yami -> Grandicap visited my target Remember this? Grandi does not see Amni visiting me when they lock in my kill. It's possible that Amni simply did not submit an action n2 and n3.
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Ok, so scum Amni would have claimed to be blocked N2 when he actually did the kill that night. And roleblocked Yami N3. And all of the other rb nights.Grandicap posted:N1 Watch Yami -> Grandicap visited my target Nope, that doesn't work, I didn't see Amni visit Yami N3.
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Dec 22, 2020 20:55
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I wouldn't expect a watcher to see me visit you though..
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Yami Fenrir posted:I don't care if you are scum or not amni, you are wincon. I am just trying to explain why town has already lost. I thought N2 and N3 had different results, 1 was amni failed, the other was you failed, right?
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##vote grandi But like I said, I just wanted to put that theory out there before game end. Both you and amni have contradicting night actions bingo.
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Scum-amni wins here. With a hammer. Town amni still gets to decide whether it's me or Yami.
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Part of me wants to no execute to play watcher roulette. But the other part of me wants the game to be over.
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Amnistar posted:I wouldn't expect a watcher to see me visit you though.. Yeah but that means nobody can actually confirm if you locked in an action or not. Strictly speaking you only ever hit town, despite locking in scum twice. One of these nights is a supposed double roleblock night with only one flipped roleblocker. So either grandi is lying about being roleblocked or amni is. I don't know why amni would lie to me and I honestly don't care.
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Dec 22, 2020 20:57
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Ok, without a vote there Amni is town. ##vote Yami
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I hate you both and cpig and regret my life choices.
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Dec 22, 2020 20:58
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 Fine, give the game to scum instead of the SK. Whatever.
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The worst part is both of you deserve the win as non-town in my eyes at this point.
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It's on you Amni, Watcher roulette doesn't matter. Yami lied about being blocked. He just didn't want to do those kills. It's the only thing that fits everything.
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Grandicap posted:It's on you Amni, Watcher roulette doesn't matter. It was not only me but also amni who was blocked though? Amni literally claimed that his n2 failed.
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Dec 22, 2020 20:59
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Yami Fenrir posted:
He has now officially claimed SK. I am town.
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Yami Fenrir posted:It was not only me but also amni who was blocked though? Amni literally claimed that his n2 failed. When a busdriver was still in play.
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Grandicap posted:He has now officially claimed SK. I am town. I said that I go sk when amni dies, that still holds true.
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Or hitting BP results in a failed night action in this game for some reason. Or you are a scum blocker.
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Amnistar posted:Or hitting BP results in a failed night action in this game for some reason. Do you mean me or grandi? because I can't both do your kill and another action.
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Amnistar posted:Or hitting BP results in a failed night action in this game for some reason. Watcher is the most dangerous claim for scum to make, good god. No loving way would I take that risk and claim it in the B debacle.
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Amni I have been on the level with you all game, why would I stop now? If your action failed n2, grandi is scum. It's as simple as that.
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Grandicap posted:Watcher is the most dangerous claim for scum to make, good god. No loving way would I take that risk and claim it in the B debacle. You can believe that I am a scum watcher, that is pseudo reasonable, but there is no way I would lie about that role.
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Grandicap posted:You can believe that I am a scum watcher, that is pseudo reasonable, but there is no way I would lie about that role. Then why do you DELIBERATELY go against amni's PREEMPTIVELY DECLARED ACTION to NOT have a confirmed result?
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Also, let's go back a few days, when I derailed the Yami execution. Why would I have done that as scum? Even if I were a blocker and lying about being a watcher (near implausible that I would take that risk), there was no way I would have derailed taking out a potential SK as scum there.
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Grandicap posted:Also, let's go back a few days, when I derailed the Yami execution. Why would I have done that as scum? Even if I were a blocker and lying about being a watcher (near implausible that I would take that risk), there was no way I would have derailed taking out a potential SK as scum there. Because I am the easiest goddamn distraction in the world, as showcased by sandwolf horndogging me for days straight. Also an extra kill helps scum and with 2 scum down you can take the risk. You knew amni trusts you so it wasn't that much of a risk.
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Grandicap posted:Also, let's go back a few days, when I derailed the Yami execution. Why would I have done that as scum? Even if I were a blocker and lying about being a watcher (near implausible that I would take that risk), there was no way I would have derailed taking out a potential SK as scum there. This is one of the things that gives me pause. That I was not killed on the Rhyme plan night. That should have been the move and it didn't happen. However, what also gives me pause is the fact that if you are dead grandicap, Yami can't kill me because I control the nightkill.
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Amnistar posted:The worst part is both of you deserve the win as non-town in my eyes at this point. If you believe that, then give it to the SK to be, man. Role's difficult enough.
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Yami Fenrir posted:Because I am the easiest goddamn distraction in the world, as showcased by sandwolf horndogging me for days straight. There were 2 redirecters in the game though, just because Amni didn't target me doesn't mean I don't die.
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Yami Fenrir posted:If you believe that, then give it to the SK to be, man. Role's difficult enough. This helps less than you think as a comment :P
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Dec 22, 2020 21:06
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Amnistar posted:This is one of the things that gives me pause. That I was not killed on the Rhyme plan night. That should have been the move and it didn't happen. If CPig doesn't give the win to the SK there I will hate him forever.
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Grandicap posted:There were 2 redirecters in the game though, just because Amni didn't target me doesn't mean I don't die. If there were 2 scum alive (you and AC) then you could afford to Roleblock yami forever and let AC do the killing.
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Amnistar posted:This helps less than you think as a comment :P I know :P Grandicap posted:There were 2 redirecters in the game though, just because Amni didn't target me doesn't mean I don't die. Yeah and didn't you agree with lunching all of them?
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Yami Fenrir posted:I know :P Fair point. But it's because I thought they were scum.
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At the point scum was down 2 people, weren't the redirectors known anyway? The only one we shot on purpose was clue on... night... 5? Who was told we would target him.
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Dec 22, 2020 21:08
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##Vote Grandi If you played me Yami, then well done, but that's where my instinct is telling me to vote. Hemming and hawing over it will change nothing.
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 Grandicap really stepped in it this time!Votecount for Day 8 With 3 alive, it's 2 votes to execute. There is currently no deadline set.
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Hell I railed against shooting rhyme in the first place! I thought it was too risky and might bounce onto amni. If I was a standard SK I wouldn't have said a goddamn thing. Or even claimed goddamn SK-to-be in a masonry.
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Yami Fenrir posted:Hell I railed against shooting rhyme in the first place! Well played Yami.
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Grandicap - The Cabinet - Town aligned watcher was executed on day 8! You are "The Cabinet" You are a watcher, at night you may choose another player. You will see who visits your target that night. You are town aligned and win when all threats to town have been eliminated. Yami Fenrir - The Ball - Self Aligned serial killer has won the game! You are the "Ball" You are in an unconfirmed masonry with Amnistar. You are a Self aligned Serial Killer and you win when you are the last living player. For as long as your mason partner is alive, you are permanently Bulletproof and cannot be killed at night. You have a kill at night but your mason partner is who picks the target so you cannot direct your own kill. Once per game you can use a "tilt" ability to ignore directions and target another player with an unstoppable kill. If your mason partner ever dies, you will lose your bulletproof and the normal nightly kill, however your Tilt ability becomes permanent instead of once per game. Amnistar - The Ball Launch - town aligned Mason / Target Picker was endgamed on day 8! You are "The Ball Launch" You are in an unconfirmed masonry with Yami Fenrir. Between the two of you you have a functional nightly vig. You choose the target for the vig and your partner is the one who carries out the vig. You are town and win when all threats to town have been eliminated. Thanks for playing! A couple notes about this game. I feel like maybe giving people "failed" flavor when they hit a bp was a bad idea and definitely not the norm, I just did it without thinking and then it was too late to change it so I went all in. I also feel like there was a bit of confusion surrounding Yami's unstoppable kill. I have always taken unstoppable to mean the same thing as juggernaut or strongman where it can still be redirected and hidden from but goes through all roleblocks and protects. I know that it has become something different here I just always do it that way automatically and as a result of this I am going to begin explaining roles a bit more in depth when I send role pms. Another thing is this game felt way less bouncy than the last game because I tried to tone it down. This was a mistake and expect pinball 3 to ramp the bouncing back up considerably. Hope you enjoyed the game!
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Sorry I disappeared when I had to replace out, started a new med and reacted very badly to it.
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