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fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


With the NHL season looming and the success of the Fantasy Draft threads every year, I thought I would do something fun: create a hockey trivia thread. We are all loving lunatics who seem to recall 4th line jobbers from 1993 extremely well, so let's do this! I'll lay out some guidelines - not rules per se, just the gist of what I had in mind and what makes a good trivia question.

1. One question at a time. This is to keep things from being chaotic, although two- or even three-pronged questions (name the team, the year, and the player, etc.) are perfectly fair game.

2. No cheating, you eggheads. This goes without saying and I trust my hockey brethren here not to just go to hockeydb and look answers up. The only way this is fun is to actually try to recall off the top of your head.

3. If requested by 5 or more posters, drop a hint. If a question seems really tough and a bunch of us agree and ask for a hint, totally fine! Just don't give too good a hint where it'll give it away.

4. The person who gets the answer right first starts a new question. Seems like a decent rule of thumb.

What makes a trivia question good? Not too easy and not too hard. "Who is the Ranger's only 40-win goaltender in a season?" is too easy. "Name everyone on the 1985 Whalers who had less than 20 goals" is too hard. Make it reasonable, and if it's a list, try not to make it a question with more than 10 players to list unless it's really interesting. You can talk about single seasons, franchise records, or other weirder stuff. So, I guess, I'll start it off with one that's pretty easy, and I'll let you guys pick up and take the difficulty level to where you want it!

Name the 8 goalies in the modern era (post-expansion) who have played at least one game for five different franchises and accumulated 40 or more shutouts.

1. Curtis Joseph (Twin Cinema) - STL/EDM/TOR/DET/PHX/CGY, 51 SO
2. Ed Belfour (Twin Cinema) - CHI/SJ/DAL/TOR/FLA, 76 SO
3. John Vanbiesbrouck (Twin Cinema) - NYR/NYI/NJD/PHI/FLA, 40 SO
4. Nikolai Khabibulin (Twin Cinema) - WPG/PHX/TBL/CHI/EDM, 46 SO
5. Jaroslav Halak (Gobias Ind.) - MTL/STL/WSH/NYI/BOS, 50 SO
6. Tom Barrasso (Twin Cinema) - BUF/PIT/OTT/CAR/TOR/STL, 40 SO* (38 official)
7. Tomas Vokoun (Twin Cinema) - MTL/NSH/FLA/WSH/PIT - 51 SO
8. Brian Elliott (Twin Cinema) - OTT/COL/STL/CGY/PHI

fawning deference fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Dec 11, 2020

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Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.


That one is tough. I am just guessing at guys who moved around a lot, and who I think probably hit 40 shutouts.

Joseph, Belfour, Vanbiesbrouck, Theodore, Moog, Khabibulin, and Vernon.

e: lol. Just looked each of these guys up.

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc


Halak?

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Twin Cinema posted:

That one is tough. I am just guessing at guys who moved around a lot, and who I think probably hit 40 shutouts.

Joseph, Belfour, Vanbiesbrouck, Theodore, Moog, Khabibulin, and Vernon.

e: lol. Just looked each of these guys up.

"A tough one" entails getting four of the seven off-hand. Solid. Belfour/Joseph/Beezer/Bulin are correct.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018



Halak is correct!

Two more.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.


fawning deference posted:

"A tough one" entails getting four of the seven off-hand. Solid. Belfour/Joseph/Beezer/Bulin are correct.

I didn't think Bulin would count since he played for one team that just relocated.

I also would have thought he played for, like, 8 teams.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Twin Cinema posted:

I didn't think Bulin would count since he played for one team that just relocated.

I also would have thought he played for, like, 8 teams.

The wording is important - I said franchises, not teams!

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.


fawning deference posted:

The wording is important - I said franchises, not teams!

My eyes glazed over that word.

I'll take getting more than half correct!

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Again, Torts took him to a very high mountain and showed him Nationwide and all its splendor.

"All this I will give you," he said, "if you will lay down and block for me." -Jackets 15:16




What about Sporcle quizzes? Do you want us to just drop links?

All CBJ Hat Tricks: https://www.sporcle.com/games/JSprague24/columbus-blue-jackets-hat-tricks
All CBJ 10+ goal scorers: https://www.sporcle.com/games/JSprague24/cbj10goalscorers
If you're feeling really frisky, every CBJ player, by number: https://www.sporcle.com/games/JSprague24/alltimejackets

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007


Terry Sawchuk has to be one, he played for a ton of teams for short stints.

Unless it's another old guy, I'd guess Grant Fuhr.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


AsInHowe posted:

Terry Sawchuk has to be one, he played for a ton of teams for short stints.

Unless it's another old guy, I'd guess Grant Fuhr.

Modern era, so no Sawchuk.

Fuhr only had 25 shutouts.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


CBJSprague24 posted:

What about Sporcle quizzes? Do you want us to just drop links?

All CBJ Hat Tricks: https://www.sporcle.com/games/JSprague24/columbus-blue-jackets-hat-tricks
All CBJ 10+ goal scorers: https://www.sporcle.com/games/JSprague24/cbj10goalscorers
If you're feeling really frisky, every CBJ player, by number: https://www.sporcle.com/games/JSprague24/alltimejackets

May as well drop those in here.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



Mario Lemieux is the only player in the expansion era to win the Hart trophy and miss the playoffs in the same season. The Penguins actually finished last in their division in 1987/88 but Mario had 168pts including 70 goals in 77 games that year officially earning him the Super Mario nickname. While more common, can you name all the times a player has accomplished the unusual feat of winning the Hart Trophy and the Stanley Cup in the same year (post 67)? It's only been accomplished 11 times by 7 different players.

ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Dec 11, 2020

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


ThinkTank posted:

Mario Lemieux is the only player in the expansion era to win the Hart trophy and miss the playoffs in the same season. The Penguins actually finished last in their division in 1987/88 but Mario had 168pts including 70 goals in 77 games that year officially earning him the Super Mario nickname. While more common, can you name all the times a player has accomplished the unusual feat of winning the Hart Trophy and the Stanley Cup in the same year (post 67)? It's only been accomplished 9 times by 6 different players.

Good question, although my original question still has 2 goalies unsolved...

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



fawning deference posted:

Good question, although my original question still has 2 goalies unsolved...

Ah shoot sorry I thought you meant one question per person at a time. I'll remove it for now.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


As for your question, offhand guesses:

1. Wayne Goddamn Gretz-goddamn-ky
2. Mark Messier
3. Sidney Crosby
4. Did Mario do it in the 90's Cups?
5. Martin St Louis

I think I'm missing one...

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


ThinkTank posted:

Ah shoot sorry I thought you meant one question per person at a time. I'll remove it for now.

Eh it's OK, leave it up, as long as things don't get crazy it's cool.

So to get everyone focused, there are 2 more goalies for the original question re: 40 shutouts having played a game for 5 different franchises.

And then the 6 players who have won a Cup and a Hart in the same season is the second question.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.


Bobby Orr
Guy Lafleur

I am trying to think of two other goalies, and it's hard: Barrasso and Thibault?

e: lol just looked these two guys up and I was so close. Barrasso had 38 SOs and Thibault had 39.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Twin Cinema posted:

Bobby Orr
Guy Lafleur

I am trying to think of two other goalies, and it's hard: Barrasso and Thibault?

e: lol just looked these two guys up and I was so close. Barrasso had 38 SOs and Thibault had 39.

Hmmm... actually hockeydb has Barrasso at 40! I thought I read he had 38 as well. If that's accurate, you got an 8th goalie.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely


I'm going to just guess that Ben Bishop has accumulated 40 or more shutouts, I know he's played for 5 different franchises (STL, OTT, TB, LA, DAL)

**nope, only 33 + 5 more in the playoffs

I couldn't even remember who played starting goalie for Minnesota for the last 5 years in the other thread, I have no chance hint please!

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


fawning deference posted:

Hmmm... actually hockeydb has Barrasso at 40! I thought I read he had 38 as well. If that's accurate, you got an 8th goalie.

You are correct now with Barrasso.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Starsfan posted:

I'm going to just guess that Ben Bishop has accumulated 40 or more shutouts, I know he's played for 5 different franchises (STL, OTT, TB, LA, DAL)

Bishop has 33 shutouts.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Two more. I think one is halfway "of course this guy" but halfway tricky because it's hard to remember that he played for a fifth team.

The other one is active.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely


fawning deference posted:

Two more. I think one is halfway "of course this guy" but halfway tricky because it's hard to remember that he played for a fifth team.

The other one is active.

the active guy is Mike Smith?.. I know he started in Dallas and then went to Tampa Bay and then Arizona, Calgary and finally Edmonton

If I'm wrong maybe I should be thinking of goaltenders who are good instead of goaltenders who played for 5 teams lol

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.


Seems that in 89-90, HockeyDB recognizes Barrasso has having two shutouts, whereas H-R does not. NHL.com also doesn't recognize these 2 shutouts.

I wonder what the story is here.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Twin Cinema posted:

Seems that in 89-90, HockeyDB recognizes Barrasso has having two shutouts, whereas H-R does not. NHL.com also doesn't recognize these 2 shutouts.

I wonder what the story is here.

Weird. If NHL doesn't recognize it, I suppose we can take him out, but gently caress it, let's leave him in cause Tommy ruled.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely


Twin Cinema posted:

Seems that in 89-90, HockeyDB recognizes Barrasso has having two shutouts, whereas H-R does not. NHL.com also doesn't recognize these 2 shutouts.

I wonder what the story is here.

maybe they are part game shutouts where someone got hurt? I could see discrepancies arising out of that

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Starsfan posted:

the active guy is Mike Smith?.. I know he started in Dallas and then went to Tampa Bay and then Arizona, Calgary and finally Edmonton

If I'm wrong maybe I should be thinking of goaltenders who are good instead of goaltenders who played for 5 teams lol

Smith has 39!

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.


I am gonna guess Vokoun. He feels like he played for a bunch of teams. Unsure if he hit 40, or if he even had 5 teams.

I have no clue on the active player. I feel like Lehner hasn't hit 40 yet.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



fawning deference posted:

As for your question, offhand guesses:

1. Wayne Goddamn Gretz-goddamn-ky
2. Mark Messier
3. Sidney Crosby
4. Did Mario do it in the 90's Cups?
5. Martin St Louis

I think I'm missing one...
I added it back and I actually missed Lafleur so I've edited it slightly.

1. Gretzky, of course. He won the Hart a record setting 9 times and the Cup four times. They overlapped three times in 83/84, 84/85 and 86/87. His most decorated year was 1984/85 winning the Art Ross, Hart, Pearson and being awarded the Conn Smythe trophy as playoff MVP.

2. Messier is correct. He did it in 89/90 when he led the Gretzkyless Oilers to a surprise Stanley Cup. Bill Ranford was the Conn Smythe winner for whatever reason.

3. Surprisingly Crosby has not done it. He's won two Hart trophies, two Conn Smythes and three cups. However none have overlapped. His Hart trophies came in 06/07 and 13/14 when they were eliminated in the first and second rounds respectively.

4. Mario also has not done it. Much like Sid he had a decorated career winning three Hart trophies and two Conn Smythes. However his two Conn Smythes came in 90/91 and 91/92 as he led the Pens to their first cups. He won the Art Ross each year but the Hart went to Hull and Messier those years.

5. Martin St. Louis did it and he remains the most recent individual to accomplish the feat in 03/04. He won the Art Ross and Pearson as well as he defeated the team that gave up on him four years prior in a thrilling game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Twin Cinema posted:

I am gonna guess Vokoun. He feels like he played for a bunch of teams. Unsure if he hit 40, or if he even had 5 teams.

I have no clue on the active player. I feel like Lehner hasn't hit 40 yet.

Vokoun is correct! He played 1 game for the Canadiens in his first year! The active one will come to you - it should. He's been underrated his whole career.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely


fawning deference posted:

Vokoun is correct! He played 1 game for the Canadiens in his first year! The active one will come to you - it should. He's been underrated his whole career.

Craig Anderson?

**I know he's been with Ottawa forever but he bounced around at the start of his career, could be a guy who sneaked in some games in 5 different teams

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


ThinkTank posted:

I added it back and I actually missed Lafleur so I've edited it slightly.

1. Gretzky, of course. He won the Hart a record setting 9 times and the Cup four times. They overlapped three times in 83/84, 84/85 and 86/87. His most decorated year was 1984/85 winning the Art Ross, Hart, Pearson and being awarded the Conn Smythe trophy as playoff MVP.

2. Messier is correct. He did it in 89/90 when he led the Gretzkyless Oilers to a surprise Stanley Cup. Bill Ranford was the Conn Smythe winner for whatever reason.

3. Surprisingly Crosby has not done it. He's won two Hart trophies, two Conn Smythes and three cups. However none have overlapped. His Hart trophies came in 06/07 and 13/14 when they were eliminated in the first and second rounds respectively.

4. Mario also has not done it. Much like Sid he had a decorated career winning three Hart trophies and two Conn Smythes. However his two Conn Smythes came in 90/91 and 91/92 as he led the Pens to their first cups. He won the Art Ross each year but the Hart went to Hull and Messier those years.

5. Martin St. Louis did it and he remains the most recent individual to accomplish the feat in 03/04. He won the Art Ross and Pearson as well as he defeated the team that gave up on him four years prior in a thrilling game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals.

Did Jagr, then? And hey, Lafleur!

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Starsfan posted:

Craig Anderson?

Nope.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007



Twin Cinema posted:

Bobby Orr
Guy Lafleur

Bobby Orr has also done it of course. In 69/70 and 71/72. He was the Conn Smythe winner both times.

Guy Lafleur has also done it twice (somehow I blanked him out in my mind as I was reading through the list). He did so in 76/77 and 77/78, winning the Conn Smythe the first time.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012


ThinkTank posted:

Mario Lemieux is the only player in the expansion era to win the Hart trophy and miss the playoffs in the same season. The Penguins actually finished last in their division in 1987/88 but Mario had 168pts including 70 goals in 77 games that year officially earning him the Super Mario nickname. While more common, can you name all the times a player has accomplished the unusual feat of winning the Hart Trophy and the Stanley Cup in the same year (post 67)? It's only been accomplished 11 times by 7 different players.
Orr in 70 and 72, Clarke in I think both 74 and 75, LaFleur in 77 and some other year in the 70's, Gretzky in 84, 85 and 87, Messier in 90, Sakic in 01, St Louis in 04

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.


Bobby Clarke
Peter Forsberg

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018


Sakic, that's right!

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely


well i've given every possible wrong answer on the active goalie, it can't be that hard for someone who's brain actually works to swoop in and give the right answer

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Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.


This active goalie thing is really making me dig deep into the rolodex of my brain.

Is it someone dumb like Brian Elliott?

e: lol. This took way too much effort. I never would have guessed that he hit 40.

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