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Rochallor posted:I wonder if part of it is that the books aren't important anymore They never were, they were just fun
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SOTE also gets referenced quite a bit in X-Wing Alliance with Black Sun and Dash Rendar (w/Outrider) making appearances Edit: Casimir Radon posted:But the movie had already pissed me off considerably in the first 5 minutes with “lightspeed skipping”. This also exists in X-Wing Alliance 
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May 8, 2022 17:38
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Anyone have that comic someone drew where they were trying to determine who should be the next ruler of the empire? And it was like raise your hand if you’re immediately going to turn into a warlord, or raise your hand if you’re so stupid you can’t eat without being supervised.
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fartknocker posted:Denis Lawson’s two second cameo was the one thing in that movie that gave me a huge grin and I’m pretty sure I did a fist pump. same but i just wanted him to be in an x-wing or something. like i fine with it but ehh. Xenomrph posted:It doesn’t help that NuCanon tends to be worse than Legends IMO. agreed but i dont hate the iquistors or any of that stuff. i do like the empire feeling "smaller" in some ways with maybe having like 50 or more big jedi hunters and everyone outside Sheeve and to an extent vader being ultimately disposible. like its one of the themes i liked out of fallen order, no one really matters to the empire, they can all die as long as sheeve can sit in some chair doing sith magic or whatever. i think the biggest issue with nu canon is the new trilogy being a weak mixed bag that ends with a big wet fart and now Disney is basically just filling the spaces before the movies.
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May 9, 2022 13:39
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Nthing the desire to see Lawson back in an X-Wing but that's more of an issue with Episode 9 having generally pretty poo poo action sequences. The space battle is incredibly boring despite having fifty billion ships show up because it's so static. And then it keeps cutting back to the space horse sequence which is about as exciting as Han Solo standing in a doorway for 20 minutes during Return of the Jedi.
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May 9, 2022 15:11
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The worst of it is how many shots of ships sloooowly falling out of the sky we see. There's zero urgency to what should be a moment of utter panic.
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May 9, 2022 15:34
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But guys, they blew up Tantive IV and killed Nien Numb, the most memorable ship and character
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Okay you're joking and all but those legit were the most impactful moments of the whole film.
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May 9, 2022 15:54
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I was more impacted by Ackbar dying in TLJ. I barely remember Nien Numb was in the sequel trilogy and don’t remember him or Tantive IV getting blown up at all. Of course, I haven’t watched TRoS in it’s entirety since opening night in the theater, and have only caught bits and pieces on TBS when there is nothing else on TV for background noise, so there could be a fuckton in that final battle I missed or don’t remember 
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May 9, 2022 16:01
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I get more of a rush watching the broadside duel between the Guarlara and Invisible Hand in Episode 3. How did Tantive IV even exist anymore? I'm sure we'll get a comic or something and fifty thousand "Explained" videos repeating talking points about how it managed to escape the Devastator and avoid getting blown up in a docking port on the Death Dtar.
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May 9, 2022 16:15
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It's covered in Resistance Reborn. The ISB held onto it for a while looking for "evidence" and post-war it ended up in the CEC museum on Corellia. After The Last Jedi a Resistance team doing something on Corellia lost their way off-world so they boosted it. Then they covered it again in the visual dictionary for TRoS and it's basically "some dude found it on a junkheap and gave it back to Leia as a gift".
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Vinylshadow posted:But guys, they blew up Tantive IV and killed Nien Numb, the most memorable ship and character Isn't there a controversy because the guy playing Nien Nub says that he actually isn't killed, or the novelization and the movie show different things, something like that? Funny enough, I remember on some thread on TheForce.Net someone complaining about Wedge not being in TFA, and the response being "Well, Wedge is just an incredibly minor character in the OT, why would he even be back? I'm glad they're not just filling the Resistance base with cameos of minor OT characters!" And when I asked why Nien Nub was there in that case, I don't think I got a response! Arc Hammer posted:How did Tantive IV even exist anymore? I'm sure we'll get a comic or something and fifty thousand "Explained" videos repeating talking points about how it managed to escape the Devastator and avoid getting blown up in a docking port on the Death Dtar. It's especially funny because in the new Disney canon, it was specifically stated somewhere that Vader blew up the Tantive IV after capturing it, but Abrams just disregarded it because he wanted to include it for symmetry. I think there were a few other things in TROS that also just ignored existing continuity from the books, but can't remember what by this point. Not to say that movie makers shouldn't ignore stuff like that, but it's just funny because the argument for ditching the EU was "we can now build a totally-cohesive continuity where reference books and movies are equally valid" and... whoops!
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Arquinsiel posted:Then they covered it again in the visual dictionary for TRoS and it's basically "some dude found it on a junkheap and gave it back to Leia as a gift". Lol, so Chewie gets a medal and Leia gets an old junker because those are things people remember. Should I really expect more from you movie with the space chimp in a welding helmet and a bunch of recycled star destroyer models with dick cannons bolted to them? Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 17:02 on May 9, 2022 |
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Chairman Capone posted:It's especially funny because in the new Disney canon, it was specifically stated somewhere that Vader blew up the Tantive IV after capturing it, but Abrams just disregarded it because he wanted to include it for symmetry. I think there were a few other things in TROS that also just ignored existing continuity from the books, but can't remember what by this point. The Empire reported the ship destroyed, but it was eventually found derelict, restored, and gifted back to Leia (per the TROS visual dictionary, which is basically the only way you're going to learn anything about the background for the movie, so ¯\_  _/¯)
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I just want Mara Jade back. Have her be a badass Imperial assassin doing cool poo poo. Come on Disney, do the needful.
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"Adopted daughter of Space Hitler" doesn't really scan very well these days.
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Chairman Capone posted:It's especially funny because in the new Disney canon, it was specifically stated somewhere that Vader blew up the Tantive IV after capturing it, but Abrams just disregarded it because he wanted to include it for symmetry. I think there were a few other things in TROS that also just ignored existing continuity from the books, but can't remember what by this point. Nothing major really.
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Siivola posted:"Adopted daughter of Space Hitler" doesn't really scan very well these days. "Great Grandson of Hitler metaphorically lusting after Daughter of Hitler" is where the true money lies
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May 9, 2022 18:55
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Siivola posted:"Adopted daughter of Space Hitler" doesn't really scan very well these days. She doesn’t have to be his adopted daughter, she’s just a special Inquisitor and assassin. Hell, introduce other Emperor’s Hands just like the old EU did.
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Angry_Ed posted:This also exists in X-Wing Alliance I found that Moff comic. If I remember right someone's friend made it. There doesn't seem to be any identifying information on it. 
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Casimir Radon posted:TCW had an episode where they went to lightspeed inside a planet's atmosphere which was hard enough to swallow. TFA had a scene where they went to lightspeed inside a giant tentacle monster which was trying hard to swallow them!
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Dapper_Swindler posted:same but i just wanted him to be in an x-wing or something. like i fine with it but ehh. Might've just been a scheduling thing. The only other time we see the Falcon's turret is in the opening sequence with Finn, so his availability may have just overlapped with when they were doing that rather than when they were filming other X-Wing cockpit stuff.
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fartknocker posted:I was more impacted by Ackbar dying in TLJ. I barely remember Nien Numb was in the sequel trilogy and don’t remember him or Tantive IV getting blown up at all. this, i dont remember that at all. that movie was a lovely blur. i like the previous two movies well enough but lol that movie was such dog poo poo.
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fartknocker posted:Just to throw some semi-random thoughts on the subject of the NuEU and it's apparent lack of popularity: Honestly, I think anytime a series does a time jump, then wants to go back and explain why everything's different with fill-in material, that's really hard to pull off, because if you know the end result, a lot of the emotional punch from events is gone. Luke becomes a bitter, jaded hobo? Well why would I care about all his adventures between ROTJ and TLJ, it's not going to matter. Not saying there hasn't been times where time jumps + the material added later to explain them was done well, but Star Wars is a really good example of where it wasn't handled well, mostly because the Sequel Trilogy just wanted to do a soft reset, not realizing that fans wanted to see their old characters continue where they picked off, not be failures. I'll still never get over the fact that they couldn't have just made Rey a student at Luke's new Jedi Academy. Could've been a good contrast to Anakin, where you have another crazy-powerful new Jedi, but thanks to Luke's lessons, she doesn't fall down the same trap Anakin did.
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 Features Han and Leia's wedding, as well as their honeymoon aboard the Galactic Starcruiser Halcyon
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Vinylshadow posted:
But they already covered their wedding in the still-very-much-canon Courtship of Princess Leia??? 
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It's definitely meant to evoke Drew Struzan's Courtship of Princess Leia cover.
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Casimir Radon posted:I don’t know that I’m interested in it given it’s a tie-in to their cheap expensive mess of an experience. But the cover art is decent looking. Not quite to the standards of a 90s book cover but it’s not a crude photoshop so that’s nice. I was gonna say almost the exact same thing. I have no real interest in the book, but that cover art is gorgeous. Especially compared to all the lazy stuff we've been getting for years. Wow.
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So I found a huge collection of SW audiobooks and they are unabridged. I knew going in it had to be digital rips of the books I listened to growing up because the only unabridged audiobooks of stuff like the Jedi Academy Trilogy or New Jedi Order was done by the Library for the Blind. I knew this because, ya know, kinda blind and I used them all the time as a child/teenager. I'm honestly excited to listen to a lot of these since I missed a ton as a child. Notably I listened to the first three, maybe four NJO books then skipped around a ton and finally listened to Unifying Force without any of the immediately preceding books. It was very confusing. And also I missed Traitor which everybody says was great. So this will be both a trip down nostalgia lane and something new. They even have a bunch of the New Republic era books I always wanted to read, including the aforementioned Courtship of Princess Leia.
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Speaking of audio books, I think the fact that Marc Thompson was paid to dramatically read out a sequence describing a Sith Lord suckling on a Cthutlu monsters tentacle to feed on the emotion of fear while Luke Skywalker and his son are forced to just sit there and watch. Has made my decision to save on shelf space and spend a bit of extra money on audiobooks the best decision I've made in a while. That poo poo was hilariously dumb Having context for the whole Abeloth thing now, I wonder if that dude I played the RPG with so many years knew about ANY of this story or they just went "whoa cool mind gently caress force powers!" and stopped there
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Speaking of hilariously dumb, in the War of the Bounty Hunters comics apparently 4-LOM is pronounced “For-Elloem” and not “For-Lom” (like mom). It’s stupid and I hate it.
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He does stuff for love of money, but not at the cost of extra syllables for his acronym.
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Xenomrph posted:Speaking of hilariously dumb, the War of the Bounty Hunters comics
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Arquinsiel posted:FTFY. "For Elloem" is still dumb as gently caress though. Chalk it up to another example of the NuCanon taking something not broken and trying to fix it. In yet another example of Wookieepedia editors not giving a poo poo about NuCanon, the IG-88 article is literally one paragraph and mentions none of the events of his comic book, or the other stories set before it where he apparently fights Darth Vader (twice!). It does, however, mention that in NuCanon there are still 4 IG-88s like there were in Legends, so that's neat. Edit-- looks like there's a dedicated IG-88B page that has all of that stuff. Apparently his whole "upload into the second Death Star" thing is still canon by way of some digital card game though, lol.
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Yeah that's not canon. The card "game" was just a digital Topps thing where you could open packs of trading cards. There was no game element to it. It also pre-dates the Disney purchase but didn't get shut down until 2018 so it's just in the same space as SWTOR. Most of the "there are five of them" stuff comes from things like that which was a licenced property pre-Disney that just kept going until that licence ran out or stopped being profitable.
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The wiki cites the 2018 Complete Visual Dictionary as one of the "there are five of him" sources.
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[cardassianishly]: there are five ig-88s
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Xenomrph posted:The wiki cites the 2018 Complete Visual Dictionary as one of the "there are five of him" sources.
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Arquinsiel posted:Click through to what that is. Yeah, it’s an edited (?) collected reprint of older books.
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