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Chairman Capone posted:When the Solo movie showed the tentacle monster around the Maw, I thought for sure it was meant to be Abeloth. Apparently it came from a meeting where they were brainstorming things the Falcon could encounter during the Kessel Run, and one of the designers joked "what if they ran into a giant jellyfish?" and apparently Ron Howard liked the idea enough to put it in the movie. So it probably wasn't designed as an intentional nod, but the name Summa-Verminoth definitely has eldritch vibes so maybe Jon Kasdan or Pablo Hidalgo or whoever ended up naming it was thinking of Abeloth at least a little bit. Robot Style fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Apr 12, 2022 |
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After the movie came out, Kasdan wrote a bunch of tweets with little details about the movie and one of them was that the name summa-verminoth was a reference to De Vermis Mysteriis, a forbidden book invented by Robert Bloch and used by Lovecraft in some of his late stories. The beach at the end is named the Pnakotic Coast also after Lovecraft's Pnakotic Manuscripts. According to Kasdan both he and Howard are big Lovecraft fans. I have to admit it's a funny mental image to picture wholesome Ron Howard sitting down for a pleasant evening of reading through The Dunwich Horror or whatever.
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Chairman Capone posted:After the movie came out, Kasdan wrote a bunch of tweets with little details about the movie and one of them was that the name summa-verminoth was a reference to De Vermis Mysteriis, a forbidden book invented by Robert Bloch and used by Lovecraft in some of his late stories. The beach at the end is named the Pnakotic Coast also after Lovecraft's Pnakotic Manuscripts. According to Kasdan both he and Howard are big Lovecraft fans. I have to admit it's a funny mental image to picture wholesome Ron Howard sitting down for a pleasant evening of reading through The Dunwich Horror or whatever.
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Chairman Capone posted:Kind of sad that that character isn't singing Leia's drugged out version of the main theme from the Holiday Special. Wouldn't that mean admitting they own the Holiday Special?
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You know how Solo got a lot of criticism for rapidly showing every incident we know about Han's past per the OT? Well I've been slowly working my way through Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy, and I'll read the Daley novels when I get to those points where they fit into Rebel Dawn's chronology. I haven't read it since high school. Crispin's trilogy shows off all the stuff we know about Han's past, but also includes background material on happenings from the EU too. Probably the most egregious example is Han running into Horsefucker Thul's yet unmarried parents on Alderaan in 10BBY. There's also some stuff about his history with Thracken that happened when he was a child. The Hutt Gambit so far has even more references to works that come later. Vima-Da-Boda tells Han's fortune and alludes to Mako betraying him in Dark Empire, which is actually a pretty decent bit of foreshadowing and I don't have an issue with it. Less good is Han's history with everyone on Smuggler's Run from The New Rebellion, and meeting up with Xaverri from The Crystal Star. I don't know that I'd read many of these books before the trilogy so I might not have known anything was being alluded to there. I like the trilogy when I first read it but now half a lifetime older, and knowing far more about EU stuff, it's kind of exhausting to read. It's not enough of its own story a lot of the time.
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Casimir Radon posted:You know how Solo got a lot of criticism for rapidly showing every incident we know about Han's past per the OT? Well I've been slowly working my way through Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy, and I'll read the Daley novels when I get to those points where they fit into Rebel Dawn's chronology. I haven't read it since high school. Crispin's trilogy shows off all the stuff we know about Han's past, but also includes background material on happenings from the EU too. Probably the most egregious example is Han running into Horsefucker Thul's yet unmarried parents on Alderaan in 10BBY. There's also some stuff about his history with Thracken that happened when he was a child. The Hutt Gambit so far has even more references to works that come later. Vima-Da-Boda tells Han's fortune and alludes to Mako betraying him in Dark Empire, which is actually a pretty decent bit of foreshadowing and I don't have an issue with it. Less good is Han's history with everyone on Smuggler's Run from The New Rebellion, and meeting up with Xaverri from The Crystal Star. I don't know that I'd read many of these books before the trilogy so I might not have known anything was being alluded to there. yeah the entire old EU was way way to wrapped up in the Skywalker/solo clan to the point that everything always had to connect with long histories of connection. like it can't just be solo knows tons of people and some of those friendships either ended very badly or just kinda drifted apart. for all its issues, at least Solo set up that you can see where han will eventually end up in new hope. this is why he is sorta afraid of making connections and here we can see he can be ruthless and selfless etc. its not amazing but its solid enough. i like that that the big face off is mostly tarantino lite bullshitting and a quick fight in some dickheads office.
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Vinylshadow posted:Wouldn't that mean admitting they own the Holiday Special? It's on Disney+! At least the animated section is, which as I understand it is the only section that they can really show due to rights issues. And even outside of it there have been a ton of references to the Holiday Special the last few years. Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, comics, Squadrons, Lego Holiday Special. Even before the Disney buyout, the idea that the Holiday Special was banned or whatever is overblown. Lumpy, Malla, Itchy, and Life Day were all over the old EU. In the Black Fleet Trilogy, the author even said that he originally was going to do an entirely new backstory and family for Chewie, but was told by Lucasfilm he needed to adhere to the Holiday Special depiction.
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I think it was more of an embarrassment issue for Lucas himself more than anyone else. So Disney isn’t really going to care. The first place I ever heard about it was a special feature on the AOTC DVD taking about Jango. They showed a little portion of the cartoon. So that’s an official Lucasfilm product talking about it 20 years ago.
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I remember an interview with Breckin Meyer and he mentioned that when they went to Lucasfilm to do work on... I think it was Detours, they had free reign of the Lucasfilm archives, and the Holiday Special was there and they just pulled it up and watched it and it wasn't a big deal.
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Chairman Capone posted:I remember an interview with Breckin Meyer and he mentioned that when they went to Lucasfilm to do work on... I think it was Detours, they had free reign of the Lucasfilm archives, and the Holiday Special was there and they just pulled it up and watched it and it wasn't a big deal.
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Isn't it essentially just a G rated version of the Robot Chicken specials
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Arc Hammer posted:Isn't it essentially just a G rated version of the Robot Chicken specials
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The only good thing about Detours is that it uses Han's animated design from the Holiday Special Also yes, the series itself is...uh...something
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"Man, will I be happy when we can stop pretending this thing's a mall" is the only half decent joke in the bunch. There are 39 episodes of that completed, just sitting somewhere. Weird Al said last month that there are several original songs he worked on for the show that have never seen the light of day, and the third season would have had a musical episode.
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Casimir Radon posted:"Ma, will I be happy when we can stop pretending this thing's a mall" is the only half decent joke in the bunch. There are 39 episodes of that completed, just sitting somewhere. Weird Al said last month that there are several original songs he worked on for the show that have never seen the light of day, and the third season would have had a musical episode. 39 episodes completed for something we'll never see is just crazy (I know they're short, but still). I still want to see all of it, because either it's not as bad as they say it is, or it's so bad that it would be fascinating in its own way.
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Maybe it’s so bad that viewing it kills the viewer like gazing into the Ark of the Covenant or watching the Ring tape, so Disney/LFL are in fact protecting humanity from something objectively destructive? 
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The pacing of Backlash just DIES once everybody is on Dathomire messing with this clan meeting and Nightsisters stuff! As weary as I am about Aboleths involvement in this plot at least when she’s involved there were things going on and we were getting snippets of answers to the illness plot and the cool force vision quest stuff in the maw was a little long winded at times too but it was still neat to read about and getting to meet these old characters in their deaths But I’m finding I’m just not caring a ton about the forest tribes and the adventures of the little girl and droid show The Shame Boy fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Apr 20, 2022 |
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The Dathomir stuff is the only thing I remember liking about FOTJ. Then it was back to dumb poo poo and Denning trying to write teen romance.
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thrawn527 posted:It’s clear from this that it’s never going down in price, because there’s too much involved, and that it’s absolutely not worth that price. Chairman Capone posted:After the movie came out, Kasdan wrote a bunch of tweets with little details about the movie and one of them was that the name summa-verminoth was a reference to De Vermis Mysteriis, a forbidden book invented by Robert Bloch and used by Lovecraft in some of his late stories. The beach at the end is named the Pnakotic Coast also after Lovecraft's Pnakotic Manuscripts. According to Kasdan both he and Howard are big Lovecraft fans. I have to admit it's a funny mental image to picture wholesome Ron Howard sitting down for a pleasant evening of reading through The Dunwich Horror or whatever.
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Covers for the next wave of Essential Legends books: https://twitter.com/DelReyStarWars/status/1516788006740500486 Definitely an improvement on the original Death Troopers cover. Also some story details and concept art from the canceled/revived Star Wars game coming out from Skydance: https://bespinbulletin.com/2022/04/story-details-on-the-cancelled-amy-hennig-star-wars-game-thats-being-revived-by-skydance-new-media/ The Imperial superweapon in this is... kind of strange, although interestingly looks like it's reusing some of the concept art from TFA for the Resistance superweapon that got cut from the movie.
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I wish they weren't spacing out the X-Wing books so much. I mostly consume SW novels now through unabridged audiobooks and having to wait several months in between to relive them kind of sucks. I'm sure the plan is to space them out until Rogue Squadron comes out in a couple years.
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I had forgotten they were doing a Rogue Squadron movie! Do we even know when It’s suppose to take place?
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The Shame Boy posted:I had forgotten they were doing a Rogue Squadron movie! Do we even know she. It’s suppose to take place? A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...
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The Shame Boy posted:I had forgotten they were doing a Rogue Squadron movie! Do we even know when It’s suppose to take place? We know basically nothing about it, but the logo for the movie and the teaser thing they did when it was announced both show an OT T-65 X-wing, so the assumption is it’ll be set around or shortly after the OT like almost everything else has been lately.
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Also, we have no idea if it’s still happening. They’ve been awfully quiet about since the 1-2 punch of 1) Rogue Squadron Patty Jenkins’ WW84 being met with almost universal hatred and 2) the Star Wars TV shows hitting it big, causing a seeming refocus off of movies and onto TV shows. It may still happen, but I’d like a comment from Lucasfilm confirming it at this point. Because I’m starting to feel like it’s being quietly shelved.
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Retool Rogue Squadron into a tv series like they did for the Boba and Kenobi movies, obviously
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Vinylshadow posted:Retool Rogue Squadron into a tv series like they did for the Boba and Kenobi movies, obviously You can basically take like a third of the plots from the old Black Sheep Squadron show and replace the F4U Corsairs with X-wings and you’re set.
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Is the new Disney timeline anything like the Legends one when it comes to Rogue Squadron? Legends had it formed by Luke and Wedge after Yavin then had Wedge reforming it a few years after Endor.
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Disney Canon has Rogue Swuadron formed following the battle of Yavin in order to honor the sacrifice of Rogue One.
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Wedge and Hobbie are in an episode of Rebels where Sabine helps them defect from Tie pilot training. Let me tell you how annoyed I was when they got Lawson to come back for TROS and he was in it for 5 seconds.
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Casimir Radon posted:Wedge and Hobbie are in an episode of Rebels where Sabine helps them defect from Tie pilot training. Disney should just scrap the Rogue Squadron show/movie and make a series based on the fanfic/RPG pilot group I've been a member of for like 25 years.
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Casimir Radon posted:Wedge and Hobbie are in an episode of Rebels where Sabine helps them defect from Tie pilot training. Best 5 seconds of that movie, though.
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Casimir Radon posted:Wedge and Hobbie are in an episode of Rebels where Sabine helps them defect from Tie pilot training. It's also funny given he shows up right after Snap dies and has no reaction, given the Disney books made him Snap's adoptive father. I remember it was circulated around for a while that Lawson had refused a cameo in TFA, but later it was revealed that Devin Faraci had made that up. There were a number of fans so angry at Lawson supposedly snubbing the new movies that they hoped Wedge was killed off in Aftermath to punish Lawson by making sure he could never reprise the role.
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If babu frik was riding with Wedge going hey hey it would be better.
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Killing Wedge off in any media should be a literal real-world actual serious tried-in-the-Hague war crime, change my mind. 
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Chairman Capone posted:It's also funny given he shows up right after Snap dies and has no reaction, given the Disney books made him Snap's adoptive father.
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the rogue squadron movie should be an adaptation of starfighters of adumar
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Also I agree that it would be better as a series. I haven’t heard of any SW series getting shown in theaters as a special event. I’d certainly pay to go watch that on a big screen.
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Jazerus posted:the rogue squadron movie should be an adaptation of starfighters of adumar Yes
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Animal Friend posted:Is the new Disney timeline anything like the Legends one when it comes to Rogue Squadron? Slight correction, the old canon has it being formed after Yavin, but it mostly stays as a unit after. For Endor, they are either briefly redesignated as Red Squadron, but are back to the Rogue name shortly after (When the Rogue Squadron comics start). The core of that group remains intact for about a year or two before Wedge rebuilds it from the ground up in the novels. Arc Hammer posted:Disney Canon has Rogue Swuadron formed following the battle of Yavin in order to honor the sacrifice of Rogue One. Current canon isn’t fully clear. One of the stories in From a Certain Point of View: The Empire Strikes Back (Rendezvous Point) has Wedge and Janson forming a new Red Squadron after Hoth, since he doesn’t want to use the Rogue name again yet, but the Starfighter game set after Endor has him mention the Rogue’s are back and off elsewhere. Jazerus posted:the rogue squadron movie should be an adaptation of starfighters of adumar  Also because it’s an excuse to being Hobbie back from the dead again.
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