Geeky Star Wars Book Thread: Attack of the Disney Clones

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The Book Barn > Geeky Star Wars Book Thread: Attack of the Disney Clones

«‹›8 »

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Zahn was given the WEG sourcebooks when he started writing as a primer. He's always been aware of the gaming stuff.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2021 21:48

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 5, 2024 20:44

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

The Populists are blatantly the Democrats too, what with being so good that they won't even think about maybe possibly being prepared to fight back against the First Order even a little, and just write strongly worded memos to the Senators with shrines to the Empire in their office.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2021 03:09

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Xenomrph posted:

It�s just really convenient that instead of resurrecting any of the myriad Legends ships and scattering them around to give some kind of variety like the old EU had, they just made one type of new ship and put it literally everywhere. It�s just another example of the �small galaxy� problem.

You mean like they did with the Quasar Fire and the Dreatnoughts in Rebels?

# ¿ Aug 27, 2021 04:38

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

You've nailed the reason why the WEG stuff is charming as gently caress. It's trying to account for literally every playstyle and it just throws a fuckton of flimsy premises at the wall and hopes that one of them sticks for a given group.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2021 14:16

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Jazerus posted:

fey'lya is such a weird character. he's basically Leia's Designated Nemesis to give her something to do in her stay-on-Coruscant politician-mom role and the various authors' understandings of leia's character are so far apart that fey'lya comes across as this insane power-hungry politician with constantly shifting positions and ideology whose sole consistent character trait is that he doesn't like whatever leia is doing at the moment. stackpole's depiction is probably the only one that has no relationship to leia as such and is more about just making fey'lya the troubling "dark side" of the rebel alliance/new republic coalition which our boy corn horn can virtuously condemn as he flies around in his cop x-wing

In my half-remembered teenaged readings of the books in whatever order they showed up in the library he always came off as the "stop having fun" character that showed up to tell the heroes that they were having too much fun and should just end the book instead. It was a really weird vibe to get from him.

# ¿ Aug 30, 2021 06:06

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

^^^^
There are a couple at least.

jivjov posted:

There was a big ol huge schism at the Wook regarding listing gender identity for characters, and the head guy in charge was a big chud and fought it so hard that the greater Fandom hosting network got involved and kicked a couple people out. The official Twitter account for wookiepedia was compromised for a bit when one of the ousted mods changed the password, but they got that back too

Worse, that was kicked off by an author transitioning and the Wookieepedia chuds insisting that their page not be updated.

StashAugustine posted:

It was the last book; and yeah Traviss and Denning are both awful and miserable but Traviss at least has some good dumb fun bits. She also turned out to be a huge BNP shithead though so who can say

When you say "BNP" do you mean the British National Party? Because that is one hell of a red flag.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2021 00:26

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Lord Hydronium posted:

Yeah, it was pretty freeform at the start, and in the first few years a lot of rules started being formalized like "no fan theories". Unfortunately I think that kind of set it on the road to what it became, as rules started piling up and the admins started become extreme sticklers about them, even when it didn't make sense by the spirit of them. Ostensibly, that's what the deadnaming incident was about - the rules said authors had to be listed by the name they were credited as, and by gum, they had to stick to them, because that's The Rules. Obviously that was just an excuse, but I think that the previous codifying of so many rules and procedures helped make excuses like that possible.

I loving detest that mindset. If you make the rules and the rules are causing you to handle a situation badly because you didn't anticipate the circumstances, then you change the loving rules.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2021 01:21

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Chairman Capone posted:

I always assumed that the Jaina Proudmoore character in Warcraft was named after Jaina Solo. There are so many references to other franchises in Blizzard games, it just made sense.

Her cloak in WC3 was literally just a page from an old Warhammer book with the colours flipped, so it's entirely plausible.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2021 19:50

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

The voice acting might be doing a lot of the lifting there. I felt like he was boring as hell in the book.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2021 01:42

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

ninjahedgehog posted:

I kinda wish at that point they had moved the timeline up a millennium or so -- Without Vima there's nothing really connecting KOTOR to TOTJ, and so you've got the TOTJ ancient-looking ships and technology giving way to prequel-era Star Wars aesthetics in just about 20 years.

Alternatively they could have gone whole hog and given KOTOR the TOTJ aesthetic, but from a brand recognition perspective I get why that's a nonstarter.

That was a stylistic choice to have them all "dressed old" as if they would actually be flying space sailboats while wearing sandals. They did a similar thing with one of the Darth Bane comics where everyone used swords and bows instead of lightsabers and blasters.

# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 03:04

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Casimir Radon posted:

�Specifically Gamorreans who got brainwashed by this planet killing ship into thinking they�re stormtroopers�..are you writing this down?�

The thing is, that just reminded me of Ork Stormboyz so teenage me thought that was the sole redeeming feature of that whole mess.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2021 18:06

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Chairman Capone posted:

I read the Knight Errant comic and remember liking it, especially given it came out around when the Dark Horse comic output kind of went into decline IMO. I had completely forgotten that Miller wrote a novel tie-in, too.

Actually, speaking of Miller novels, I'm curious if Kenobi will tie into the Kenobi TV series at all, given it's being re-released as part of the Essential Legends line around when the show is supposed to release. I feel like the novel was pretty much the essential "Kenobi on Tatooine" story, it's really hard to think of something that could top that. I really hope the show doesn't go into the territory of "Kenobi actually left Tatooine and had a bunch of galactic adventures and then returns to sit around his hut" but kind of suspect that's what it will do.

Same to all of this. I should try find that Knight Errant tie-in next time I am in Forbidden Planet.

# ¿ Sep 28, 2021 03:20

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Yeah, it's the lung one. It's incredibly silly in a way that works when it's about zombies.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 16:14

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Yeah, Red Harvest is far sillier than Death Troopers, which was already as silly as you can get and still be decent. It probably should have dramatically changed the Star Wars universe, so I kind of assumed that none of it was canon even then.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 20:18

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

jivjov posted:

It was just as canonical as any of the other novels -- "C-Canon" if you kept up with the tier system of the time

And it shouldn't have been, because "hey so zombies" totally jacks up the way the universe works.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2021 23:13

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Chronosynclast posted:

The second book, City of the Dead. Remember that guy who hassled Luke in Mos Eisley Cantina, saying he had the death sentence in twelve systems? He figured out how to make zombies. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cornelius_Evazan/Legends

Just when I think I have reached the bottom of stupid old EU stuff... I learn humility. Every time :negative:

# ¿ Oct 1, 2021 01:07

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

That's kind of why they rave about it. The plot is better than the average Marvel plot, and then at the end it turns out it was all a scheme to steal poo poo and do a runner while making fun of everyone. It's not complex, or clever, but it is very very fun.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2021 04:53

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Chairman Capone posted:

Suddenly it's clear why Rise of Kylo Ren was poo poo.

Yeah that comics series was... extremely bad.

# ¿ Oct 8, 2021 04:17

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

He was implied to be living with Cobb Vance in the books, but that story has changed so :shrug:

# ¿ Nov 3, 2021 04:31

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

By Malakili though, which kind of implies it had another name prior to ending up in some rando human's care.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2021 19:10

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Rochallor posted:

I was pretty down on the first Alphabet Squadron book, but ended up reading the other two and really enjoyed those. The biggest problem with the first one is that it takes forever to get to the premise. It makes you really appreciate how the X-Wing books get going after, at most, two chapters of setup. The character stuff that's paid off in the next two books is worth it, though.

I've only read the first two and TBH I'm not super into reading the third when I get a change. I don't know what it is about it exactly, but the characters irritate me.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 01:14

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

There's a lot of stuff in the Legacy comic that I wish they expanded on a bit more. Hondo Karr's storyline weaves through the whole thing, but his quest to kill Mand'alor just sort of gets declared and then the comic ends.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 02:54

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

KOTOR got the War five issue to sort of wrap things up, but it wasn't a great way to do it and it doesn't really tell you what happened that was so important that Carrick station was a thing that exists 300 years later. I give them a lot of leeway with the late stuff for having the rug pulled, but even then it was still just a weak ending to the best Star Wars comics to date TBH.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2021 03:38

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

They're still firing out the regular series, they just farmed out the "kid friendly" stuff to other comics companies.

Rhymenoserous posted:

So I�ve decided to start picking up the new Star Wars books post Disney acquisition and �the characters irritate me� seems to be a running theme in literally every single book.

I have generally enjoyed most of them, but for whatever reason Alphabet Squadron hasn't managed to leave me with a single character that I actually care about. I don't want to know what happens to these people, they annoy me. I still want to know what happens in the macro-scale of the strategic story, but only getting teasers of that when Hera is around is just tedious.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2021 21:57

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Not sure what the canon status of the gacha mobile game Galaxy of Heroes is, but if it's treated as canon as any other non-movie work then the Dash Rendar fans should be very happy.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2021 01:33

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

thrawn527 posted:

It's not even close to canon. Or at least, none of the characters you fight as in the game are. The "story", such as it is, is that you're playing with hologram characters fighting each other. Which is how, for example, you can get a team of several different Hans fighting for you (regular Han, Hoth gear Han, young Han Solo, old Han Solo, etc.). So anyone who shows up in game doesn't count. This "Dash Rendar" could be a fictional character in universe. And that's if the world you're playing the game in even counts, which is likely a gigantic "no".

Like, the game has both Light Side AND Dark Side Revan. Same for Bastilla. It's not canon.

It could be a canon post-sequel game in the universe, but TBH I don't think they thought it through even that hard.

# ¿ Nov 19, 2021 16:44

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Chairman Capone posted:

Speaking of IDW, one of my favorite Han/Chewie stories was a comic they put out a few years ago which featured Chewie trying to have a relaxing day at a spa while Han dealt with gangsters in a casino. It was just a one-shot, but I thought its focus on Chewie, as well as him just trying to have a normal day, was a nice change of pace from almost every story with them in it.

That was a great little story. I loved it.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 00:08

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

In as much as the game is canon...

They call the shoulder tyres out specifically.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2021 05:32

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Respect to the dude getting paid multiple times for the same article.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2021 02:59

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Chairman Capone posted:

It's funny how universally negative the response to the Star Wars hotel marketing has been. I don't think I've seen one positive take on it.

Any of the idiots who are willing to drop that much money on it are avoiding potential spoilers for it.

Well that's my excuse anyway.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2021 14:35

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

jivjov posted:

I feel like we've barely gotten to know Starlight as a locale too--it gets mentioned a lot, it's established as this wonderful place/thing, but precious little time is actually spent there. It doesn't get to feel iconic and important to the setting, it's just a huge Macguffin.

I've really been enjoying High Republic as an era and a publishing line; but this is one area that I feel like hasn't been handled super well

The publishing schedule and getting stuff in Ireland has been weird. I am mostly up to date with the comics, but they have run way ahead of the novel paperback releases, and anything YA or Adventures branded just doesn't seem to exist. It feels a lot less stuff has been released than actually has for some reason.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2021 21:35

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Started on Victory's Price and lol at Hera being all "rebellions thrive on hope, republics need something sturdier".

# ¿ Dec 7, 2021 15:32

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Is there a handy summary of why the company is terrible somewhere?

# ¿ Dec 11, 2021 04:12

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Oh, that.

Yeah Imma pass on this game too.

# ¿ Dec 11, 2021 13:47

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Turns out that the High Republic Adventures comics are being published by Panini in the UK in their "Bookazine" format, so they might actually be the easiest and cheapest Star Wars media to get soon. Sweet.

Weirdly zero mention of IDE at all in the copyright guff text though. Unexpected what with how they handle their Marvel reprints.

# ¿ Dec 12, 2021 21:10

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Having finished Victory's Price it manages to stick the landing. I'm still not sure I actually like anyone in Alphabet Squadron, but at least getting more ~~screen~~pagetime with Hera was nice.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2021 16:17

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Siivola posted:

I on the other hand picked up my copy of Christie Golden's Dark Disciple, and it still holds up. I think I'll have to get a D+ sub and rewatch some TCW next.

That's a weird one since it was written out of unfilmed Clone Wars scripts and kind of straddles the continuities awkwardly.

# ¿ Dec 23, 2021 12:41

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

There's a lot of references to stuff that was established in the comics and books which isn't canon anymore but is kind of implied to be by virtue of that hinting at it. IIRC it was done and dusted way gefore Disney announced the EU wipe, llike that weird novel about Sheev and Vader on Ryloth for "reasons".

# ¿ Dec 23, 2021 15:15

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Doctor Spaceman posted:

The Sith originating from the Unknown Regions was in TOR wasn't it?

No, they were always fallen Jedi in the old EU. The Sith species came from Korriban/Moraband and were conquered by said Jedi.

# ¿ Dec 24, 2021 11:58

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ¿ May 5, 2024 20:44

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

As much as I love Star Wars and like the majority of what Disney has done with it, sometimes I feel like the best option is to just let the brand sleep for another decade and keep the RPG ticking over quietly.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2022 14:51

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The Book Barn > Geeky Star Wars Book Thread: Attack of the Disney Clones

«‹›8 »