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Thanks for this LP, it's been the most interesting one I've ever read, and the effort you put in was truly amazing.
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Dang, that's a shame to hear. It's been great reading this LP, thanks for taking the time to do all this writing just for us! I'm sure the match will end up creating even more entertaining stories as it goes on.
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If the match is still going on, we'd still follow a executive summary every fortnight where you tell us about any capital ships sunk or hexes defended by >=2000 men being captured.
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Day by days are always a blast, and yours has been excellent. Thanks for carrying it on this far! +1 to the crowd that would be thrilled with occasional smaller news reports from the front, still
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wukkar posted:If the match is still going on, we'd still follow a executive summary every fortnight where you tell us about any capital ships sunk or hexes defended by >=2000 men being captured. Yeah, I'd second this if it sounds good to you, Pharnakes.
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Even if you don’t want to post some more, we’ve all still got years of backlog to reread. Great work, and good luck!
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You are disgustingly good at this game. Good luck with the rest of the campaign
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Godspeed sir, thanks for the years of entertainment!
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Man what a ride. Thanks for all the free entertainment! Definitely wouldn't mind some posts about major events now and then if you're still playing on without daily updates. 
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I miss the daily updates of this thread. Phan, you still playing the game at all?
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Alikchi has stated in his Twitter that they are still playing. He said he wants to start a SA thread and post updates occasionally.
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Speaking of which, this now exists and is here:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4009458 Just in case any of you still have this bookmarked but haven't found it yet, go ahead and give him some encouragement, I think he could use it probably  Bonus of course that you are now all free to go and bay for my blood in his thread without annoying me.
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Love it! How did you react to the raid of Tokyo?
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Yes well if that's where he is I won't spoil that, although you did make me think that one way I might have the energy to still contribute something is by answering questions/ providing short updates about specific events. Just let me know what date he is on so I don't accidentally spoil anything. So my response to the Tokyo raid was to panic for a day or two about the lack of fighter groups held back and the fact they still all have Claudes/Nates, then forget about it after a week or less. Ohh, and to sound the horn of Tokyo Bay Fortress, of course.
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Pharnakes posted:Just let me know what date he is on so I don't accidentally spoil anything. April 1 1943
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Pharnakes posted:Yes well if that's where he is I won't spoil that, although you did make me think that one way I might have the energy to still contribute something is by answering questions/ providing short updates about specific events. Just let me know what date he is on so I don't accidentally spoil anything. If the war between Japan and the Allies were to end due to a truce as of this thread's most recent update how do you think things would play out? zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Aug 10, 2022 |
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Operation Doolittle 16/02/43 - 23/02/43 So the first thing all students of the Eternal Empire learn is that Operation Doolittle was very aptly named.  Now, as we know, raid results are always under exaggerated in the combat logs, I think the actual damage was five points of Babs factory, and maybe even one hit on some other plane. But still extremely whatever and all fixed in less than a week and a few thousand supplies.  This wasn't the only damage he inflicted, he also lucked out and caught a couple of small transports moving base forces into the Kuriles, ironically intended to prepare against this very possibility. Definitely more significant that the damage inflicted on Tokyo, although it has to be noted that had he pushed west for one more day before tipping his hand to raid southern, rather than central, Japan, he could potentially have inflicted appalling losses on the huge tanker and freighter convoys that were unloading at Kobe and Osaka at the time. Of course, the objective of such a mission is never going to be about actual damage inflicted, it's about proving you can and forcing you opponent to react. For this reason I strongly considered not reacting at all (beyond standing up fighter groups over key ports and upgrading them to modern airframes). However, since at the time I didn't have anything better for the fleet to be doing than hanging around Tarawa making life awkward for his attempts to interdict my supply runs, I decided to gather everything up and head north. Also, Donryu was due in the yards in March for planed upgrades, and I had an idea that there might be battleships present too, and any prospect of the Yamatos being given a chance to fulfil themselves is worth pursuing. Four days later on the 21st, the fleet was nearing the Kuriles, but I had miscounted hexes and they ended up just slightly closer than I had intended, and we were, of course, still in training.  Launching from near Amchitka Island, the USN did their best, fortunately a combination of range, weather, too many targets and massed flak saved us from anything too bad, Kuroho taking one 500lber for minor damage. So the first question here of course is why the gently caress is a carrier still here in the Aleutians when it is less than half the distance for them to return from Japan as it is for us to bring the KB up from Truk. Did he gamble that I would deliberately avoid being provoked? If he thought that, why do the raid at all, that would just be risk with no consummate reward since the reward for this whole endeavour is me reacting. Anyway, I conclude that having now seen what he is up against he's going to high tail it out the area stat, so I abandon hope of catching the carriers and plod on towards their main base at Adak Island.  Dawn of the 22nd however, reveals they are still here. What the gently caress. This time of course, our CAP is prepared and easily dispatches the threat, which is pointed at the battleships rather than the carriers anyway.  We launch no morning strike (probably foiled by weather, this is the Aleutians in the middle of winter don't forget) but our afternoon strike, although performing appallingly compared to the total effort, nevertheless lands several good hits on what is confirmed to be Enterprise. No surprises there, the USN has nothing else left anyway.  A second wave lost in the cloud finally lands the critical torpedo hit, and although no confirmation has been obtained to date, the chances of Enterprise surviving in the circumstances are minimal to put it mildly. Why was she still there?  My best guess is Alikchi intended to hide her in the harbour at Amchitka Island, but either forgot to order her TF to disband on arrival, or the game screwed it up somehow. The move to port > disband trick is very powerful but always rather high risk due to there being quite a few things that can go wrong with it.  Anyway, at this point even if Enterprise was still afloat I didn't really want to sink her so the next night we bombarded Adak Island then went home 
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zetamind2000 posted:If the war between Japan and the Allies were to end due to a truce as of this thread's most recent update how do you think things would play out? Pharnakes posted:
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poo poo, I'd almost forgotten about that.I'm assuming he's shown the actual combat reports and stuff, so I'll stick to my reactions which were basically  and  for a week straight.After assembling a force of two US divisions plus the better part of an armoured brigade or more, plus an Australian infantry brigade, and getting bombed endlessly at Daly Waters for months, In a move that would make butcher Hague blush he decided to eagle of the ninth them at Katherine without even attempting to gain air superiority. I got the whole lot, essentially without a fight, or anything that could be reasonably described as a real fight for such a huge force. Definitely now by far the worst military disaster in the history of the US, or probably for the allies total. Singapore after all was mostly successfully evacuated in this timeline. Or maybe it's less 9th legion and more like the last samurai, only the yanks are the samurai and we have airplanes as well as gatling guns. And the samurai have no food, or fuel for their 800 tanks they presumably hauled across the desert by hand
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Pharnakes posted:poo poo, I'd almost forgotten about that.I'm assuming he's shown the actual combat reports and stuff, so I'll stick to my reactions which were basically Yes, we were seeing mention of that force building up on his twitter while you were still running this thread, and I think our main reaction on Discord was "how the heck is he feeding that massive army on that road?" Seeing him comment about losing the lot when he started his own thread was gratifying.
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As requested in the new thread, and this one is on pause.. If you were going to be picking up again, what would your objectives/tactics be? You'd taken the points in India where emergency reinforcemetns arose, so where would you go from here then in the game as far as operational plans for next phase of thigns based on where you were Pharnakes?
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Well, that wasn’t actually intended, so the operational plan in India was to panic and do whatever it took to weather the storm of spitfires and wellingtons, then, since the rubicon was already crossed, storm up the northern planes while his land reinforcements were bogged down in the central hills and take Delhi.
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Huh, cool. Other things for the rest of the Pacific or mostly just digging in to weather the storm and slow him?
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Woo! It's time to start the fires! It's time to light the lights! It's time to set the IJA and IJN at one another's throats for murder rights!
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OK, well if Alikchi is going to do it, gently caress it, so am I. No I am not competitive, why do you ask?  Blenheims visit Benares in the night.  No hits in this weather.  Woosh  Tatsuyuke is escorting Ryuho home, after she was torpedoed doing, something. A Milne Bay resupply escort, I think?  Hurricanes sweeping over us in north west India.  Here after this shall be referred to as the critical hex, for reasons we shall shortly see.  More Hurricanes  Remember Milne Bay?  I hardly do, but I’m sure it’ll feature regularly all the same.  Some heavily escorted Vengeance dive bombers hit us at the critical hex.  A very well coordinated strike. Combined with the sweeps, glad I didn’t have LRCAP up, really.  Juicy as the subsequent waves will be, I’m sure.  With the emergency injection, he’s not short of bombers. He might be rather short of airfields to service them from.  Not really achieving much.  Saturation bombing at work.  Endless.  Our LRCAP effort is over Bhopal instead.  Rather underwhelming.  Ahmedabad gets some attention too.  Taking this pretty meaningless hex was of course the trigger for this whole shitshow we find ourselves in now.  This is pretty wasted effort, really. Surat to the south on the coast is where I intend to develop an airfield for this area.  Alikchi might have hosed up when he let me choose the ground for this fight, but he’s certainly committed to it.  The heavies come to Ahmedabad.  More sweeps are launched.  Broome was always a popular place for some truely pointless dickwaving if I remember correctly.  Our bombers fly their mission in India, but it doesn’t look like they’re going to hit much.  And they don’t. Despite the weather, 41st ID is still about 5 miles up the proverbial creek without a paddle in sight. Bombing them is hardly a productive use of our time, but without the supplies to replace airframes I’m being cautious.  More action for Milne Bay.  And the real wave arrives for Broome.  Our sweep over Groote Eylandt hits a wall.  Scythe IVs??? Scythe whatevers were bad enough.  Liberators attack Lunga in the afternoon.  God only knows what the CAP was doing on the approach, but they catch them as they turn.  I’ll take that trade.  This is going to be a long fight.  And this, hopefully, a rather short one.  drat right!  We actually crossed the river yesterday, I was hoping to take the hex in one go off the back of the forced shock attack from crossing the river. That obviously didn't happen, but there seems to have been a bunch of Spits left behind for some reason anyway. And that's a whole lot of captured aviation support, which I’m pretty convinced must be a problem for him with the massive airforce he’s trying to operate in what’s left of India now.  Bangalore drags on. Even without the timeskip, it must be nearly a year of shelling here now, with nothing identifiable to show for it.  They try a bombardment at Bhopal, and probably wish they hadn’t.  The critical hex. Critical because that’s an entire loving British armoured divison in there, and by some artistry I’ve forgotten I managed to persuade Alikchi to use it in the one hex that isn’t clear terrain for several hundred miles. Even with the defensive bonus we can’t match their firepower, but he’s not winning here anytime soon either.  I think we’ll be attacking here tomorrow.   No, don’t ask me what has happened in the intervening months, because whatever it was, it happened 15 months ago IRL.  I love the smell of burning Spitfires in the evening.  Quiet at sea recently. I vaguely remember a sense of burning indignation at Shimaron, and it’s a torpedo so I assume some sub got lucky.  Tairyu returns to service. I don’t know if she was damaged or just had more wear and tear then Donryu, but certainly she and her sister have just been refitted. Once they’re back in service, it’ll be the Shokakus turn, as their upgrade is available from this month.  And in fact we lay down a new oiler at Hiroshima. Shioya might be a piece of poo poo I should probably cancel, but that’s beside the point.  A navy recon hikotai turns up at Rabaul. We don’t manufacture the Irving because it's pretty pointless compared to the Judy, but hey, 2 free planes!  We have just exactly enough Judys in the stockpiles for Donryu and Tairyu to leave the Val behind.  We’re suffering a considerable supply shortage in India right now with less than 50k supply available across the whole theatre, because, uhh reasons, which isn’t ideal in the middle of two massive duelling offensives. However, the first of the emergency convoys has arrived in the night, and there's a good 300k in the pipeline to follow over the next couple weeks. We’ll be fine.   Full pursuit west from Allahabad. We need to make as much ground as we can before he either pulls back out from the fight over the Bhopal road, or even worse, wins it. The tank units are pretty tired, and the recon regiment is down to an AV of 8. But we’re not facing anything capable of serious resistance until at least Lucknow.  I think we’re just on mop up here from our winter offensive, but I don’t really know. This game now has a unique opportunity to explore what would have happened had the respective supreme commands suffered simultaneous concussions and lost all their short term memory.  Our lovely ladies depart for Truk. Only half their strike groups are available, of course, but by the time they get to Truk most of the Judys should be air worthy. I’m not anticipating action soon, and I’m keen to see the Shokakus out of the yards before the first of the Essexs arrive over the summer.  If he’s going to be like this about Groote Eylandt, he can drat well take the offensive. All I’m really trying to do here is divert resources from India, so mission already accomplished. 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SIGSEGV posted:Considering the time gap do you still have your old plans in head for your carriers? Nope! I think that's partly because I didn't really have much of a plan. Shokaku & Zuikaku along with the cvls are returning from a patrol around the Gilberts, which was rather uneventful iirc, and are now going to go home to refit, which I'm pretty sure was the plan anyway, since keeping carriers with the latest AA is obviously very important. Meanwhile Donryu & Tairyu have just had their refit, so will be covering until the Shokakus return. The midway 4 of course are still locked up in Singapore as agreed, the slow butai with Junyo, Hiyo and Ryuho have just completed I think a supply run escort to Milne Bay, in which process Ryuho ate a torpedo, prsumably from an Avenger based out of Port Moresby, since I'm sure I'd remember if there was a carrier clash. Junyo & Hiyo are now to rendevous with CVLs and head for the Indian Ocean. The British carriers are mostly either sunk or crippled at the moment I think, so it's time to blockade Karachi and go for the win in India. Not at all what I had intended, but since I triggered the reinforcements I feel if I try to go for a stalemate he'll eventually work out that the armour is better employed in the north, and then I'm really not sure I can stop him driving all the way to Calcutta. So we're going for broke and, with only one port left, if we blockade Karachi sooner or later he has to run out of supply. ChocolatePancake posted:Do the occupied areas areas of India generate any supplies to help you out, or do you have to ship everything in? Yes, I think something like 10% of our total supply is now from India. f course, I reckon we are burning something in the nature of 120% of daily total supply in India at the moment, so that only goes so far. To tie back in to the plan above, supply burn for him has to be at least as bad if not worse, and whilst he could well have stockpilled a couple million tons or more, I suspect he desn't have that much. Even if he does, allied units are hungry compared to ours, especially since he's leaning heavily on the air reinforcements. The full strength desert divisions also have a much larger logistics footprint with the modern armour and artillery, compared to what he's been used to working with until now. If we can get the blockade up (pretty well a given, as far as I can see), then I reckon two to six months, tops, before effective resistance will collapse. wedgekree posted:Yay this is going on! I'm not promising anything, and it certinly won't be day by day, but that does mean I've got plenty time to write posts without risking burnout. As long as Alikchi keeps the turns tricking along I'll keep posting.
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  Woosh.  At least pretend you tried to find her.  Milne Bay sees the first action.  I’m pretty sure the area had been quiet for months before.  Now Broome.  Also a change of pace.  Oops   That’s quite a lot less Helens.  Oh dear. I had wondered if he would do that, then decided that no he wouldn’t   One more   I’m sure I didn’t order this.  Kept them out of trouble at least.  More for Milne Bay.  No LRCAP over the yanks.  Burnt a little supply at least.  A year plus break resulting in a change of strategy is hardly surprising, but if he thinks this kind of thing is going to distract me from India he’s got another think coming. And surely a year isn’t long enough to forget what an unmitigated disaster Australia has been for him so far.  The afternoon, and the Allied bombers finally fly.  Thank you our lord and saviour, hills.  Revenge!    Second chance, don’t waste it!  Well, better than nothing I suppose.  Wellys, on the other hand, are easy prey.  Another wave over the hex to rule them all.  Overall a light effort today. I wonder if there was just really poo poo weather in the morning, or if he’s being forced to reduce tempo.  I-22 flubs on what is presumably a distant escort for a convoy.  Grinding on.  Grinding to nowhere  It was mop up then.  Bhopal goes our way again.  Pretty even here today. Probably helped by us not getting bombed nearly as much as usual.   Well, that was a bad day to be bomber crew.  Alikchi comes out ahead, mostly because allied bombers tend to run away when unescorted. Cowards.  The Pacific living up to its name.  Doesn’t get more standard than a Standard B. The latest in the series is ready at Nagoya.  And a thoroughly useless sub hunter at Okayama.  We start a marginally more exciting “A” at Osaka.  Here is where they flew the LRCAP from. In some ways it’s not even a bad thing, it probably cost them several hundred supplies to mount this trap. Of course, 10 Hellens is a rather higher price than I really want to pay for that  Our engineers have expanded the airfield at Indore to level two. So far he’s been largely ignoring Indore, but this will doubtless paint a giant target on it.  Finally, movement in Madhya Pradesh. They are no longer just stubbornly sitting in their forts and allowing us near total freedom of manoeuvre. Jubbulpore is clearly untenable, we already have them outnumbered 3:1 in AV, but the hex is jungle rough and I’m happy to see them go without a fight.  The only logical destination for them is the Critical Hex, and the race is now on as to who can get reinforcements there first. The road network favours them, but although we have a full hex with no road at all to traverse, we have a lot less distance to cover, and are actually on sealed roads the rest of the way. As long as he doesn’t start interdiction bombing the 21st ID, I think we’re OK.   We don’t have much here, but he should have even less. Kicking these engineers while they're down should get us a nice quantity of PoWs and captured equipment. Shame WitP has no system for utilising captured equipment, or then again, perhaps it isn’t.  I don’t know who these guys east of Benares are, or where they came from, but we’re not having it. The 12th tank regiment will divert to check.  It would be supremely ironic, if, after catching those Spitfires undefended at Allahabad, he now manages to do the same trick to Benares. The 16th IR will turn back to prevent that.  And they represent a suitable target for our bombers for tomorrow. I very much doubt he has LRCAP up there, and even if he does we must risk it. If that was an armoured unit, potentially they could be across the river and into Benares tomorrow, which would be before the 16th could get back. Bombing them will knock them out of move mode and prevent that.  We might as well do some of our own interdiction bombing at Jubbulpore as well.  Two more AT battalions have arrived at Indore, and will head north over the next few days. It might be enough, we shall see.  The carriers are back at Truk, and the CVs are heading home for their refits.  The CVLs are heading west: all the way around India and into the Arabian Sea. The Raj must fall in the next six months, or we will run out of steam in the face of modern allied air and tank supremacy.  Inaba and Harmia are destined for Darwin, to resume bombardment missions in the Gulf of Carpentaria.
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  I-176 wooshes a DMS.  It’s been a long time since any of our subs achieved anything.  I think we all know where this is.  The most famous battle of WW2, Milne Bay.  Not to underestimate the significance of Broome, of course.  What do you mean it’s a crocodile infested swamp in the middle of a desert? You can’t have a swamp in a desert, clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about.  Recon by bomb.  It was armour. I don’t know who Gardener is, but their plan is foiled now, I hope.  A second wave actually inflicts significant damage, despite the weather.  More at Milne Bay.  And some bombers! Technically.  Extra sweep for good measure.  That’s a very large attack for this theatre.  We don’t actually have anything here, I’m pretty sure. In that case, whatever.  As predicted, Indore is catching it.  That is barely going to slow us down.  Extra for Broome.  The CAP is alert over our armour, but that’s a heavy escort.  They do a solid job though.  Between the fighters and the storms, no damage is inflicted.  As usual we come out ahead at Jubbulpore. So we should, given half our artillery park is here.  Despite the fact that our other half is at Bangalore, we very rarely achieve anything, but today we do!  Our armour smashes into the retreat from Allahabad.  And bounces. Despite the poor condition of the defenders we are just asking too much of exhausted men and machines.  Another day at Bhopal.  Eventually he will win here. Hopefully not soon, though.   Disappointing we didn’t get the overrun, but we could have lost Benares and didn’t, which is far more significant.  An efficient, if small scale, engagement over our northern thrust. Somewhere some allied gunners are on point though, three Dinahs lost to flak today.   The last of the Kongo Maru class commissions today at Nagasaki. She’s not the last xAP we’ll ever build, but she the last of the fast liners.  253 KuS-1 gains four new aces, and a double, today, confirming their status as elites with a 9:1 KDR. However, the dire supply situation is starting to really drag, they are down to 16 frames with only half flyable. With 14 aces, they are at risk of having more aces than planes. It doesn’t help, of course, that the main rail link to Calcutta is currently severed.  The first convoy has mostly unloaded, but 48 of the 68k tons are still sitting at the docks in Calcutta. Even with India’s excellent rail network it’s going to take another few days before the front really feels the pressure easing. Two more convoys of ~40k apiece are now into the Bay of Bengal, one heading for Calcutta and one for Madras. Once all that is unloaded and disseminated into the network we’ll be back in business.  The infantry has come so close to catching up outside Allahabad, however it will now be the day after tomorrow before they can attack, and he will escape in that time. A shame, but oh well.  We have a full strength Sentai of Nicks in the theatre we can use to intercept heavy bombers, however there’s absolutely nothing worth defending at Shortlands at the moment. If he keeps bombing we’ll certainly deploy, but he could also just be trying to provoke CAP so he could sweep with Lightnings from Port Moresby. I think they would be in range.   The Guards tank division has arrived in Benares, after being vital in the battle of Nagpur. We are going to have them head straight west, the idea being they will look as if they are going to attack the major airfield at Lucknow, but instead at the last minute they will turn across the Ganges and seize the vastly less defended but still heavily utilised strip at Cawnpore.  Looking at the Jubblepore situation, I think we might actually have a chance to cut him off before the can march towards the Hex. He is retreating up the minor road to the (in game parlance) north east, but we could take the major road to the “east”. We’d then have to march along the minor railway (in pink) which is slower than even a minor road, but with the boost from the major road we might get there first anyway. We’ve got way more AV than we need to contain a breakout sitting here anyway, so we might as well try.  Two more divisions arrive at Indore: the 13th and the 104th. I’m actually feeling secure enough now that the slightly understrength 13th is going to be sent towards Bhopal to start cutting roads and taking hex sides. I’d imagine he’ll retreat as soon as we start doing that, but you never know. So far knowing when to fold ‘em hasn’t really been Alikchi’s strong point.
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Is it worth it to withdraw the Aces from the KuS and evacuate the group from the area given how attrited they are? Or just have them stand down for awhile to repair and refit? Or easier to just put the aces back in ther eserve pool to redeploy them elsewhere?
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Nov 1, 2023 22:24
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