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I finally started watching the Mandalorian. I had heard people mention "The Bill Burr episode" and I can only assume it's because of racism that they didn't call it "The Richard Ayoade episode"
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A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:Me, normal: "Why's there a birthday clown in this bar?" Yes, famously normal and not at all clownish person, Richard Ayoade
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Jan 1, 2021 23:52
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A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:Where's his white face and red hair? Yes, man famously not at all known for having a distinctive hairstyle, Richard Ayoade Reality Protester posted:Star trek disco revealed replicated food is recycled feces from the crew. incredible stuff folks. kurtzman strikes again. What was the tone of that revelation? Because I would assume that if that's how it works then that's how it's always worked, so all the characters from all the previous Star Treks have known that but never brought it up. Which would mean that either there's a social taboo about talking about it or, (and this is what I would consider more likely) it's just accepted as totally normal and not worth talking about.
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Jan 2, 2021 00:38
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Lister posted:It's weird. A good guy and bad guy are in legal negotiations. The bad guy is eating from a small food spread. Here are the exact lines: This show sounds so dumb
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Jan 2, 2021 02:37
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priznat posted:The supporting cast is one of my fav things about the Mandolorian, they get so many great folks in for one offs or semi recurring. Criminal underuse of Brian Posehn
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Jan 2, 2021 05:56
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lmao I watched the Bill Burr episode. They murdered like 40 dudes for the crime of... trying to destroy an Imperial munitions convoy. Which they then did, but it's fine because they were the main characters and had accomplished their own personal goals, but the aliens were just nameless monsters whose deaths were of no importance. This show can be dumb some times.
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Jan 2, 2021 15:08
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Zzulu posted:Well see, the problem was that the protagonist was in the truck the pirates tried to blow up. Hence why he defended himself. Was he supposed to just go "You guys have a just cause, I shall now relinquish my life, please kill me" and die? Its fiction. Those guys weren't really trying to kill him. He wasn't even really in a truck. The whole scenario was concocted by a writer
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Jan 2, 2021 16:54
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sweet geek swag posted:Lol, not only is he posting the worst possible takes, but he is stealing them from AHS. I don't know what AHS is. Do you really not understand how fiction works? Writers created a scenario where an exciting action scene was the Mandalorian killing 50 rebels to defend an Imperial munitions convoy. You can see how it happened, they had the plot of the episode where Mando infiltrates an Imperial base dressed as an Imperial guy, they need an exciting action scene, OK what if he gets attacked by the people who have been attacking Imperials in the area. It all works out to move the narrative along and produce an entertaining episode. But if you step back, then obviously its not a good look for the hero to have murdered all those dudes who were on the side of the good guys and trying to stop the Empire. What part of that is a bad take, what part of that do you disagree with?
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Jan 2, 2021 17:03
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sweet geek swag posted:A Horny Swearingen. He literally just said, "This is fiction, you have writers, write better." In this thread. Except his take wasn't enormously stupid. Neither is mine. And "knowing that fictional stories are written by people therefore all events in them are choices made by someone" is not a unique idea, it's just knowing what fiction is. hemale in pain posted:The hired killer is not a good guy Yes he is. The entire series is about him going to great lengths and personal risk to save a baby. Yes, in real life a bounty hunter who has killed thousands would probably not be a good guy. but, and I know bringing this up again is just going to make you mad again but it's true, this is fiction. They aren't real people. The Mandalorian kills in self defense, he kills bad people, he kills people who try to kill a baby, he kills faceless goons. And in (I know this word makes you mad but please try to keep a level head and follow me here)fiction, those actions do not hold the same moral weight that killing actual flesh and blood human beings with parents and dreams in real life does Galewolf posted:I see, "The space pirates were actually oppressed freedom fighters" is this year's Tom Cruise meltdown, cool. They weren't space pirates. They were blowing up Imperial munitions convoys. They weren't stealing the munitions, they were just blowing them up so the Empire wouldn't have them.
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Jan 2, 2021 17:17
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don't know why you guys are even arguing with me. I liked the show, it's good. But I think that the writers didn't quite think that one exciting action set piece through and accidentally created a scenario where The Mandalorian and a repentant ex-Imperial soldier murder 50 Rebellion fighters in order to defend an Imperial convoy, and that's kinda funny.
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Jan 2, 2021 17:23
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Are you guys just still mad about that Richard Ayoade joke? It really was just a joke, I don't actually think you guys are racist. Of course I should've expected Bill Burr fans to be touchy about being called racist but it's too late now.
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Jan 2, 2021 17:25
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Galewolf posted:
But they don't steal anything. They just blow up the Imperial munitions. And the presence of exploded Imperial trucks establishes that that is something they do regularly. It's the only thing the episode established that they do, they blow up Imperial convoys. Maybe they're called Space Pirates because that's their cool gang name, The Space Pirates, but they do not engage in any piracy that we see
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Jan 2, 2021 17:40
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Galewolf posted:Piracy does not necessarily mean "get everything intact", they could be salvaging the remaining equipment or think that it is too dangerous to ride the transports and instead force the base for protection money. We see the wreckage of their previous attacks. The transports are burned, not stripped. They are simply destroying Imperial supplies. And that shakedown thing is something you just made up. As you say, in order to make them pirates you have to "theorycraft" things which are not shown or even hinted at in the episode Moola posted:from my point of view it is the pirate victims who are evil In this case the "pirate" "victims" are Imperial arms convoys and the Imperial stormtroopers protecting them, so yeah.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:05
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stephenthinkpad posted:My Mando S2 review: I also thought the frog lady hot spring episode was the strongest of the season
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Jan 2, 2021 19:07
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Galewolf posted:I was referring to your galaxy brain projection about the simple fact that they are pirates. What do you mean by "galaxy brain projection"? I simply pointed that those guys didn't do any piracy. Maybe they are pirates. But if so, then they also fight the Empire in their free time. As we saw in the episode.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:29
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Arcsquad12 posted:The whole point of the Bill Burr episode is how morality is relative to everyday people and that large institutions like the Empire and Republic are interchangeable, but even then, the Empire is worse because you have to remind yourself theyre still space nazis. The whole episode was building up this uncomfortable idea that the Republic and Empire are moral equivalents, with scrappy imperials fighting crazy pirate attacks and living an underdog existence in an old base where they celebrate any small win they can get. You've got heroic tie fighter rescues and normal people just happy to see at least one truck survived and a sense of camaraderie rarely shown for the Empire. You start thinking hey, maybe these guys aren't so bad. I don't think that was the intention. I think the point of the episode was to show how Bill Burr could've fought for the Empire and still be a good guy now. The cheering stormtroopers aren't "normal people", the townsfolk are normal people, and you see them look at them Empire with undisguised distaste. None of the Imperial forces even have faces, other than the moustache twirling officer. None of them even have distinct personalities. They're still the same faceless mooks whose lives have no value that they've been the entire series. At no point do the heroes have to shoot the specific stormtrooper who saved them from the "pirates", or anything like that. You get a bit of Burr's backstory, where it's made clear that he was Imperial because that's the side he was born on. But then he saw that they were bad and left. It's a very simple moral setup. Burr was one of the faceless bad guys, at some point in the past off screen, but then he decided to stop being that and became an individual character. I know you've watched Gundam, you know what that "there's decent people on both sides" looks like. The Bill Burr episode was no Time, Be Still!.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:42
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piratepilates posted:gripweed you're a nice guy and good poster, we're all friends here, and yes I know what thread this is, but can we all for the love of god stop fighting about the dumb star wars show. I am more than willing to stop arguing as soon as people stop disagreeing with me.
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Jan 2, 2021 19:44
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Arcsquad12 posted:Burr didn't just see how bad they were he was directly affected by it when is COs burned a city down with his division still in it. It's not Time, Be Still! with the decent zeon troopers, that's not what I was getting at. What I was trying to point out is that the Empire is still made of people but they are awful people. Burr was trying to tell Mando everyone is the same to the little guy, same poo poo different leader, but he was trying to tell himself that more because its clear he had issues with what the Empire made him do and what they did to him. He wanted to tell himself that he wasn't a bad person for being an Imp, but in the end he couldn't keep up the lie. I don't think we disagree then, Except for the idea that the Imperial remnants are comparable to the Delaz fleet. I don't think the average Stormtrooper gets enough characterization to actually have motivations. Which is intentional, it's a big part of Gundam that the pilots our protagonists kill are people with their own stories and dreams, but it's kinda important to Star Wars that you don't see the Stormtroopers as people. The one time in the show that I can recall Stormtroopers getting humanized was the two speeder bike guys, and they kept punching Grogu. Galewolf posted:Their skiffs didn't had sails, therefore cannot be pirates. Can you knock off the galaxybrain projection, please?
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Jan 2, 2021 20:10
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Arcsquad12 posted:That the extended preview for the Book of Boba Fett could have been better spent wrapping up season 2 instead of Mark Hamill's cgi face taking over the show and then cutting to black before anything that was just being discussed could be resolved. Because it's going to splinter off into a bunch of different shows. You wanna see more about the Battlestar Galactica lady becoming king of whatever? There's gonna be a show about that. Maybe lady sheriff will get her own show too. Will Mando have cameos in those shows? Gotta watch em to find out! hosed-Up Little Dog posted:What's the point of sitting on a throne in silence in an empty room it is a metaphor
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Jan 2, 2021 20:45
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That is such a great hairstyle/color for her
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Jan 2, 2021 21:36
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hell yeah content incoming https://twitter.com/jonronson/status/1345397934473539585?s=20
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Jan 3, 2021 03:06
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CODChimera posted:in a way it could be a good thing for the show that she's so passionate about flying or whatever? I think a director who was passionate about competent story telling would be a better fit.
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Jan 3, 2021 13:51
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https://twitter.com/moschinodorito/status/1345533350774235144?s=20
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Jan 3, 2021 13:58
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That's Kumail Nanjiani. He got cast in a Marvel movie so they gave him the Space Marine serum they gave Chris Pratt and all the others to make them shredded, but the movie got delayed so they just keep giving him more doses of the serum This is what he used to look like 
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Jan 3, 2021 14:20
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol move the table out of the shot and let us see that roid gut Kumail You only get a roid gut if you do steroids like a moron. I assume the trainers Disney hires keep him on well managed cycles.
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Jan 3, 2021 14:25
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Chapo Trap House did an entire episode reviewing the movie and I just found out from the RLM review that the bad guy was Maxwell Lord. The Chapos didn't once use the character's name
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Jan 3, 2021 15:54
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lol since I finished Mandalorian I decided to watch RLM's Mandalorian review, and Mike goes on at great length about how Boba Fett definitely will be in Season 2, but there's no way he could be played by the guy who played Jango Fett.
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Jan 3, 2021 18:23
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Communist Walrus posted:I haven't watched the movie but if I had to guess, I'd say the 80s setting is the result of DC wanting to distance WW from the Superman/Justice League movie timeframe so when they do their "well we really bungled this, time to reboot it" Crisis movie, the WW movies can still be canon I regret to inform them that the WW movie series might not be worth preserving to them anymore
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Jan 3, 2021 21:01
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FlamingLiberal posted:There's a billion dollars worth of Avatar sequels on the way, so yeah. They are the only hope movies theaters have of surviving
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Jan 4, 2021 00:22
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Jan 4, 2021 22:29
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PostNouveau posted:I thought they were bringing him in for the Flash movie, which is almost certainly gonna be another time travel/multiverse thing that allows them to bring in all the old Batmen. Isn't Marvel doing that with all the Spider-Mans first?
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Jan 4, 2021 23:33
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Gumdrop Larry posted:Maybe I don't get exposed to it but I feel like it's never addressed hard enough in Star Wars arguments how the OT just absolutely inadvertently salted the earth with its framing of things. It overtly stated from a dozen different angles that these events and people are the most important thing in like the history of the galaxy, but everyone wanted to tell a story about how actually there was another equally important or greater thing you just never heard about, or another hero's journey tale about a Jedi tempted by the dark side, etc. The bloat and stupidity of the EU was funny, but now Disney is doing the exact same thing while also saying it's all straight up canon. Feels weird. The OT also pretty clearly establishes that there's The Force, which is a basic universal concept that underpins all life, and the Dark Side, which is giving in to hate and anger and fear and gaining destructive power at the expense of being a hosed up evil monster man. But that didn't stop legions of Star Wars fans from deciding that the truth is somewhere in the middle, and there should be "grey Jedi" who understand that recognizing the energy that binds all life together and getting really loving angry and murdering people with lightning are actually just two extremes on the same spectrum and the truth is somewhere in the middle
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Jan 5, 2021 03:34
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I know that was unrelated to the thing you said, Larry, but really grey Jedi and the idea of balance being somewhere between the "Light Side" and the Dark Side is so loving stupid. People who grew up and are no longer satisfied with the simple good vs evil morality of Star Wars but also absolutely refuse to read grown up books or watch grown up movies, so they want the children's fiction they still compulsively gorge on to make a pathetic stupid gesture towards moral complexity so they can feel like they aren't just watching content made for 8 year olds.
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Jan 5, 2021 03:42
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oh lmao the grey jedi idea is from a video game? Well that explains a lot.
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Jan 5, 2021 04:47
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Groovelord Neato posted:I like how they had an oil tycoon in Egypt a country that ranks between India and Vietnam in oil reserves and only five or six spots above the UK. He sold his oil to Saudi Arabia. Famous oil importer, Saudi Arabia
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Jan 6, 2021 00:48
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Jan 6, 2021 00:56
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AHH F/UGH posted:lol The entire cast is Chinese basically How do Chinese actors make it a cash grab?
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Jan 6, 2021 01:53
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A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:poo poo, I guess we'll never know. What? How are you conflating stereotypical characters with just having characters played by Chinese actors?
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Jan 6, 2021 01:58
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I genuinely don't understand what you're thinking here. Do you just think any Chinese person is an offensive stereotype like a sassy black woman or a flamboyant gay man?
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Refusing to enjoy 7-20 hours of entertainment because it's not enough seems like a weird value judgment to me. It's a TV show. And not a limited show like Chernobyl or an anime, where there's a specific story with a beginning middle and end. They just go, with season long arcs but always left open for future seasons, until Netflix decides not to order another season. So the experience of watching one is often unsatisfying because there is no proper end. It just pauses and never resumes.
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