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https://twitter.com/JESnowden/status/1350603249020239872 Glad that they were able to do in-ring interviews without social distancing
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So was Dana's big announcement that Khabib might maybe possibly come out of retirement perhaps?
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LobsterMobster posted:While we wait for the Best & Worst of 2021 thread, I want to note these things from today's event: doging punches, looking away and landing really loving hard shots of his own. It wasn't a great fight, since Holloway pulled away as much as he did, but it was a loving incredible performance. Kind of like Dillashaw Barao. Holloway has always been good, but he just keeps getting better. What a loving fighter. Also, this was just a fun as gently caress card. Even the heavyweight fight was really good.
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CommonShore posted:https://twitter.com/JESnowden/status/1350603249020239872 rip big man 
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I'm very pleased that someone outrageously cool and good like Max has surpassed the record of blows landed and the leader of that is no longer Colby Covington. For added measure, something I would use to troll Colby's fans on twitter a while back is showing what the recipient of colby's hundreds of punches looked like (hint: iirc they looked like someone mildly fell off of their bike in their own driveway). If someone has some time, would they be able to get a comparison shot of what the recipient of Colby's record volume punches looked like at the end of their fight vs what Max's opponent looked like? Want to tuck that one away for safe keeping 
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I haven't watched UFC in a while due to some personal stuff goin on but I'm  again and was trying to watch max fight while I was on call at work & on the phone with some lady in pittsburgh in her 40s or 50s who knew what UFC was, knew who conor was, and what weight class he fought at, but didn't know he was fighting next weekend. That was pretty cool. Speaking of, RIP to our threads next week cause Conor fights always bring in the dumbest, shittiest loving posters on this entire website and the GDT threads are not funny and cool and fun like they usual are but I will stay strong
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Saving up all my "fan who doesn't pay attention to the sport and assumes Conor has been the champ this entire time and remains unbeaten" takes for next weekend.
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The votes from the Best & Worst of 2020 are in and have tabulated. Please enjoy what we, the community of Goons who watch MMA have decided were the highlights and lowlights of 2020. If you want to help decide which moments we will remember for MMA in 2021 please don't forget to make nominations once the Best & Worst of MMA in 2021 thread is posted. The Best Fighter of the Year 1 - Deiveson Figueiredo 2 - Kevin Holland 3 - Jan Blachowicz Favorite Fighter of the Year 1 - Dustin Poirier 2 - Deiveson Figueiredo/Justin Gaethje 3 - Kevin Holland/Amanda Nunes/Joaquin Buckley/AJ McKee Fight of the Year 1 - Weilei Zhang vs Joanna Jedrezjczyk 2 - Deiveson Figueiredo vs Brandon Moreno 3 - Tony Ferguson vs Justin Gaethje Weight Division of the Year 1 - Men's Lightweight 2 - Men's Flyweight 3 - Women's Strawweight Best Major Show of the Year 1 - UFC 249 2 - UFC 256 3 - UFC Fight Night: Woodley vs Covington Performance of the Year 1 - Justin Gaethje vs Tony Ferguson 2 - Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Justin Gaethje 3 - Israel Adesanya vs Paulo Costa Round of the Year 1 - Deiveson Figueiredo vs Brandon Moreno, R5 2 - Brandon Royval vs Kai Kara-France, R1 3 - Justin Gaethje vs Tony Ferguson, R4 KO of the Year 1 - Joaquin Buckley 2 - Beneil Dariush 3 - Alex Pereira Sub of the Year 1 - AJ Mckee (neck crank on Darrion Caldwell) 2 - Jack Hermansson (heelhook on Kelvin Gastelum) 3 - Jimmy Flick (flying triangle on Cody Durden) Breakout Fighter of the Year 1 - Kevin Holland 2 - Joaquin Buckley 3 - Deiveson Figueiredo Most Improved Fighter of the Year 1 - Jan Blachowicz 2 - Deiveson Figueiredo 3 - Brandon Moreno Upset of the Year 1 - Roxanne Modafferi def. Maycee Barber 2 - Jan Blachowicz def. Dominick Reyes 3 - Marlon Vera def. Sean O'Malley Comeback of the Year 1 - Derrick Lewis vs Alexei Oleinyk 2 - Alexander Volkanovski vs Max Holloway 3 - Deiveson Figueiredo vs Brandon Moreno The Worst of the Year Worst Fight of the Year 1 - Tyron Woodley vs Colby Covington 2 - Amanda Nunes vs Felicia Spencer/Yana Kunitskaya vs Julija Stoliarenko Worst Major Show of the Year 1 - Bellator 237 2 - UFC 249 (the lead up to it) 3 - Bellator: Cyborg vs Blencoe Foul of the Year 1 - Raymond Daniels, spinning backick to opponents groin 2 - Shawn West, illegal knee to Boston Salmon 3 - Deiveson Figueiredo, dick kick on Brandon Moreno Worst Refereeing Incompetence of the Year 1 - Jason Herzog, not stopping the Smith vs Texeira fight sooner & role in the Daniels/Stanonik DQ 2 - Kerry Hatley, letting Vadim Nemkov beat on Ryan Bader for a prolonged period 3 - Chris Tognoni, body of work Worst Judging Incompetence of the Year 1 - Nunes vs Spencer not having more than one round scored a 10-8 2 - Chris Lee, scoring the Felder/RDA fight in Felder's favor 3 - Joe Soliz, scoring the Martinez vs Ewell fight 30-27 for Ewell, and scoring Jones vs Reyes 49-46 for Jones Worst Coach Gameplan of the Year 1 - Letting Maycee Barber continue to fight despite clearly having a damaged knee 2 - Anthony Smith's corner collecting his knocked out teeth and letting him keep fighting vs Glover Texeira 3 - Trevor Wittman telling Justin Gaethje he is 8 low kicks away from breaking Khabib Nurmagomedov Worst Booking Decision of the Year 1 - Tyron Woodley vs Colby Covington being booked years after it was relevant or worthwhile 2 - Cynthia Calvillo vs Jessica Eye being a main event/Bellator booking Quinton Rampage Jackson vs Fedor Emelianenko/UFC (& later others) putting on events during a pandemic 3 - Taking Alex Perez out of fight with Brandon Moreno to book him versus Deiveson Figueiredo while Moreno was healthy and ready to fight/Booking fights for Greg Hardy/Booking Amanda Nunes vs Felicia Spencer/Booking Shogun vs Lil Nog 3 in 2020 Dumbest Career Move of the Year 1 - Jon Jones doing a lot of dumb stuff (breaking quarantine, aligning with a right wing militia, etc.) 2 - Alexander Gustafsson moving to Heavyweight 3 - Mike Perry doing lots of dumb stuff with video evidence/Nick Diaz teasing a return the whole year Best Post-Fight Interview of the Year 1 - Wallid Ismail speaking on behalf of Deiveson Figueiredo 2 - Israel Adesanya's whole commentary and remarks after beating Paulo Costa 3 - Amanda Nunes saying "she tried" after beating up Felicia Spencer Worst Attempt at Hype of the Year 1 - UFC focusing on Aniah Blanchard's murder in an attempt to promote Walt Harris' upcoming fight 2 - Fight Island, the buildup & secrecy that led to "it's just in Abu Dhabi" 3 - Aljamain Sterling saying he is coming in and around for Petr Yan's rear end Most Overhyped/Underperformed Fight (or Fighter) of the Year 1 - Dominick Reyes 2 - Jorge Masvidal vs Kamaru Usman 3 - Justin Gaethje's wrestling/Edmen Shahbazyan The Comedy of 2020 Best Trash Talk of the Year 1 - "If I wanted a black belt I'd wrap my dick around my waist" - Israel Adesanya (after KO'ng Paolo Costa) 2 - "Wipe your booger" - Kevin Holland (prior to KO'ng Joaquin Buckley) 3 - "Listen to Bisping" - Dustin Poirier (mid-fight to Dan Hooker) Best Comedic Moment in MMA of the Year 1 - Tara La Rosa's whole 2020, losing her home in a trailer fire, aligning with the Proud Boys organization then later getting kicked out for attempting to form a female version called Proud Girls 2 - Bethe Correia mistaking the 10 second warning clapper for the round bell 3 - Chase Hooper pranking Jorge Masvidal by making him think Ben Askren was Hooper's dad. Greatest Schadenfreude of the Year 1 - Tara La Rosa getting kicked out of the Proud Boys for attempting to form an all female wing 2 - Sean O'Malley refusing to accept he lost to Marlon Vera 3 - Ion Cutelaba being over the top at weigh-ins, faking being hurt versus Magomed Ankalaev, then losing in the rematch Greatest Social Media Presence of the Year 1 - Angela Hill 2 - Luis "Violent Bob Ross" Pena 3 - @BorrachinaDepot on Twitter for their chronicling of Tito Ortiz's interviews/public appearances
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LobsterMobster posted:Lil Davey Figgs is a nightmare of fists and knees and elbows and shins that destroyed Joe Benavidez, destroyed him a second time and had an amazing 3 week turnaround at the end of the year to defend the flyweight title twice in 21 days Not only that, but he's a hair stylist, a sushi chef, a cowboy, and the first line on his Wikipedia page is, "Figueiredo was born in the small city of Soure, Para, Brazil where buffaloes roam freely."
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:Not only that, but he's a hair stylist, a sushi chef, a cowboy, and the first line on his Wikipedia page is, "Figueiredo was born in the small city of Soure, Para, Brazil where buffaloes roam freely." FERDINAND
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:Not only that, but he's a hair stylist, a sushi chef, a cowboy, and the first line on his Wikipedia page is, "Figueiredo was born in the small city of Soure, Para, Brazil where buffaloes roam freely." I wonder if the skies are not cloudy all day I'm blown away at how much damage kattar was allowed to take last night. If your fighter loses 50-42 then why the hell was he sent out or the fight not stopped after 4?
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ilmucche posted:I wonder if the skies are not cloudy all day Because comebacks and finishes exist and it's a lil late to avoid cte when you're already cte'd for 3 rounds, whereas if you get enough cte in a short time it will reset to 0
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Next UFC card is on Wednesday at 9am ET. Excellent timing Dana
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awesomeolion posted:Because comebacks and finishes exist and it's a lil late to avoid cte when you're already cte'd for 3 rounds, whereas if you get enough cte in a short time it will reset to 0 It gets worse the longer the fight goes and most deaths happen when fights go into later rounds, especially in horrific beatdowns like that fight. Basically the entire opposite of this post.
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This is an odd thing to say five minutes after finishing punching another man in the head as hard as you can 350+ times.
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WhiteHowler posted:This is an odd thing to say five minutes after finishing punching another man in the head as hard as you can 350+ times. it's his job to punch other men as hard as he can until the ref or the corner step in. which they really should have.
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WhiteHowler posted:This is an odd thing to say five minutes after finishing punching another man in the head as hard as you can 350+ times. What would you suggest he should have done instead
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beep by grandpa posted:What would you suggest he should have done instead Nothing, I just thought the discordance was amusing.
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beep by grandpa posted:What would you suggest he should have done instead Leg kick KO. Seriously though, so as much damage as you can -- that's the sport. I wonder if DC had come around yet on no sparring the last two weeks.
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The point he's making is that if you're going to take that damage, it's only worth it to take it in a main event when you're getting paid, not in training or in z-league cards trying to make a name for yourself.
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Yeah, he's definitely arguing more for not taking unnecessary damage. Don't go all out for no money, don't do unnecessary sparring, don't go too hard if you spar. Save all of that for the fight and you'll have a longer career.
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Max is great https://streamable.com/i5xu63
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To the extent that fighters are scouted with videos/ highlights of their past fights, I think getting picked for the big leagues still favors fighters who are willing to bite down on their mouthpiece and work through getting rocked. Obviously there's lots of ways to reduce damage from training, but with people like Dana White as promoters, clean fighters who don't want to brawl in the early passes of their career are at a disadvantage.
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nordichammer posted:Max is great We don't deserve him I also want to hear him do commentary with DC in particular. Just hear him say 'it is what it is' over and over the whole night.
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Foul Fowl posted:it's his job to punch other men as hard as he can until the ref or the corner step in. which they really should have. The ref stopping the match comes up after these one sided fights, but I don’t think the ref can stop a fight just because one guy is getting schooled? AFAIK the guy needs to be unconscious, unable to defend himself, or have a fight stopping injury. I’d be fine if a ref did stop a beatdown, but it doesn’t seem like they’re supposed to until the guy has already been destroyed.
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blue footed boobie posted:The ref stopping the match comes up after these one sided fights, but I don’t think the ref can stop a fight just because one guy is getting schooled? AFAIK the guy needs to be unconscious, unable to defend himself, or have a fight stopping injury. I’d be fine if a ref did stop a beatdown, but it doesn’t seem like they’re supposed to until the guy has already been destroyed. They stop fights for guys being outclassed in boxing and kickboxing all the time.
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blue footed boobie posted:unable to defend himself For all intents and purposes, Kattar wasn't able to keep from getting hit by Max round 4.
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blue footed boobie posted:The ref stopping the match comes up after these one sided fights, but I don’t think the ref can stop a fight just because one guy is getting schooled? AFAIK the guy needs to be unconscious, unable to defend himself, or have a fight stopping injury. I’d be fine if a ref did stop a beatdown, but it doesn’t seem like they’re supposed to until the guy has already been destroyed. They could stop it whenever they want
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blue footed boobie posted:The ref stopping the match comes up after these one sided fights, but I don’t think the ref can stop a fight just because one guy is getting schooled? AFAIK the guy needs to be unconscious, unable to defend himself, or have a fight stopping injury. I’d be fine if a ref did stop a beatdown, but it doesn’t seem like they’re supposed to until the guy has already been destroyed. it happens in other combat sports and even regional MMA all the time, one guy clearly on the receiving end of a beatdown so the ref stops the fight even if he's on his feet. ufc refs are way too lenient, probably at least partially because that's how the fighters like it.
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