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ikr. and what the hell would getting the police involved do? other than totally ruin any chance of successful coparenting? and what would my kids think of her doing that? I mean we all have different ideas of acceptable risk but it just feels like hers is extreme, her response is fully over the top, and she’s willing to make poo poo extremely worse. anyway sorry for the rant. hate poo poo like this, especially how it just plays on your mind all day
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i feel like crime rates in NZ are so ridiculously low compared to the US that worrying about anything other that small crimes of opportunity such as your phone or bike getting yoinked is silly I admittedly don’t know what sex crime rates look like, but I’d imagine those are also relatively low and probably centred around universities. kidnapping is pretty rare on Crime Continent, and we have a lot of guns to help that crime along. the cops would probably laugh her out if the station
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echinopsis posted:ikr. and what the hell would getting the police involved do? other than totally ruin any chance of successful coparenting? and what would my kids think of her doing that? idk about sending a 13 year old off in an uber by themselves. not saying it’s a bad call, certainly doesn’t merit police involvement, but I don’t know if I’d do it. i might very well feel different when mine are that age. hell, i flew across the country by myself at 15. depends on the kid and other factors i suppose. leaving them home alone, for especially such a short amount of time? unless there are some really bizarre circumstances that’s an outright nonissue as far as I’m concerned. in general that sounds like a bunch of bs to me.
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I was just telling my daughter today about how when i was a kid my grandma bought me a plain ticket and i flew across three states by myself i think I was about 8 or less because i remember being hyped for the "pilot wings" pin and activity book which I don't think would've seemed cool if i was much older than that
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Corla Plankun posted:I was just telling my daughter today about how when i was a kid my grandma bought me a plain ticket and i flew across three states by myself lol yup. I was 9 when I got tossed on a plane by myself and flown to see my aunts in Ireland for a summer
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President Beep posted:idk about sending a 13 year old off in an uber by themselves. not saying it’s a bad call, certainly doesn’t merit police involvement, but I don’t know if I’d do it. i might very well feel different when mine are that age. hell, i flew across the country by myself at 15. depends on the kid and other factors i suppose. i flew intercontinentally to france by myself when i was 15 (and without the unaccompanied minor poo poo because i presume the age cutoff for that is a few years younger) to visit family parents be on edge in 2022
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speaking of, we flew in October and we're shocked that they still do the "would you like to sit in the cockpit?" thing. every now and then he says something about how he drove a plane 
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President Beep posted:holy poo poo yeah! in the 90s i guess people weren't doing the "precision-scheduled" bullshit that everyone does now so there were stewards and airport staff who could help out with this kind of thing no problem meanwhile in tyool 2022 my local pharmacy doesnt even employ enough pharmacists to staff the drivethru so they've just put permanent cones up
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Asymmetric POSTer posted:parents be on edge in 2022 my wife and i are much more cautious than our respective parents. for good or ill.
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Corla Plankun posted:yeah! in the 90s i guess people weren't doing the "precision-scheduled" bullshit that everyone does now so there were stewards and airport staff who could help out with this kind of thing no problem i can definitely believe that this is a big factor.
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when i was a kid i flew back & forth between my mom & dads house starting at around age 7 or 8. Stewardesses were always really nice and would make sure you got where you were supposed to be.
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not like it'd be less safe in 2022, the industry is pretty obsessed with getting anything that got past security sorted out in some way. just a lot less humane and pleasant, to a point where it is hard to imagine putting a very young kid through it.
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yeah. tsa cretins shouting at little kids and poo poo.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:not like it'd be less safe in 2022, the industry is pretty obsessed with getting anything that got past security sorted out in some way. just a lot less humane and pleasant, to a point where it is hard to imagine putting a very young kid through it. when my mom had alzheimers we had to do this a few times and yeah it was intensely unpleasant
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a few commercial flights ago i was seated beside an unaccompanied ~12-13 year old girl. she stayed quiet the entire flight (except in the turbulence going over the rockies, where she threw up) and the attendants checked on her regularly. it still happens and it's fine
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rotor posted:when i was a kid i flew back & forth between my mom & dads house starting at around age 7 or 8. Stewardesses were always really nice and would make sure you got where you were supposed to be. I wish I would have been able to experience PanAm 
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the time i flew by myself when i was a kid i went out to see my sister in LA. trip out was fine (saw hare krishnas at LAX) but on the way back my outbound flight got out late and we only arrived at MSP after I was supposed to be off the plane back in kzoo. it was the first time i ever flew, can’t get ahold of my parents, and I’m stuck in Minneapolis with no idea what to do next. someone finally pointed me to a help desk where they arranged a room for me at the hilton that night and got me there via shuttle. I’ve flown a bunch in the intervening years but for a 15 year old from a one stoplight town it was stressful as gently caress.
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I'm pretty sure my sister flew unaccompanied to Hong Kong when she was idk 13 or something. but "unaccompanied" did mean some sort of steward supervision iirc
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once boarding i think there's genuinely nothing to worry about, never had a crew not conscientious enough that i doubt they'd make sure a kid was doing ok. it is navigating the airport, especially when things go wrong, that's potentially awful. the barest minimum of underpaid employees all working three staffing consultancies deep doing their best, but it not adding up to a humane experience.
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yep, I totally agree. on the plane is relatively foolproof.
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:I wish I would have been able to experience PanAm panam was baller and they had the good kid swag
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Asymmetric POSTer posted:parents be on edge in 2022 Truth. I've gotten in more than one fight asking what's an appropriate age to you let your kids walk around your town unaccompanied. Like less than a mile but obviously out of eyesight of the house.
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echinopsis posted:11 and 13 not going to criticise u for doing this but i would just keep in mind that the law says 14 years and up, not a big deal normally but in your situation your ex could cause you all kinds of trouble i bet. not worth it imo unless you had some kind of wedding emergency
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bobbilljim posted:not going to criticise u for doing this but i would just keep in mind that the law says 14 years and up, not a big deal normally but in your situation your ex could cause you all kinds of trouble i bet. not worth it imo unless you had some kind of wedding emergency the law on this varies widely, in the us legal ages range from 8 to 14 e: looked up nz and it says 14 so.. whatever
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I think they still escort unaccompanied minors from security to the gate and onto the plane. idk if they’d do it for someone that’s a teenager but certainly little kids would have a minder
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echi move to international waters where you can parent freedomly without the pesky government getting in the way.
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The Fool posted:the law on this varies widely, in the us legal ages range from 8 to 14 cool good job bro
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bobbilljim posted:cool good job bro thanks
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bobbilljim posted:not going to criticise u for doing this but i would just keep in mind that the law says 14 years and up, not a big deal normally but in your situation your ex could cause you all kinds of trouble i bet. not worth it imo unless you had some kind of wedding emergency yeah I know about that, and child is 4 months from being 14 anyway but the ex wife leaves the kids at home for hours by themselves herself anyway. if she weirdly wants to put her foot down about this she just makes it worse for everyone including herself and then in a few months it’s a moot point
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bobbilljim posted:cool good job bro The Fool posted:thanks 
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bobbilljim posted:not going to criticise u for doing this but i would just keep in mind that the law says 14 years and up, not a big deal normally but in your situation your ex could cause you all kinds of trouble i bet. not worth it imo unless you had some kind of wedding emergency welp
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drat she’s such a bitch, i’m so glad as time goes on I have less and less to do with her something that’s poo poo is that she’s prepared to go nuclear to make things go her way, whereas I just want peace and for things to be good for the kids idk what’s gonna happen when she finds out I am moving in with my fiancé (who she hates) and my kids will be under our roof together I suspect she’ll try to prevent it somehow, and might end up finally ending up in court, and then we will have court mandated 50/50 which is worse for everyone and ironically means she’ll have less say than ever when it comes to my relationship with the kids but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if she pushes it that way. she burns bridges with any old friend or workplace. if she gets in her mind she’s right she’ll gently caress over whatever she has to to not back down. gently caress I am glad I am not with her anymore and at least my kids have 50 of the time away from her
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sorry for the rant guys just fuckkkkk
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had a really lovely ex-wife too who tried to steal everything from me and we didn't have kids. can't even imagine how much worse it would have been if we did. godspeed goon. ex-wives suck
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echinopsis posted:sorry for the rant guys just fuckkkkk
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President Beep posted:idk about sending a 13 year old off in an uber by themselves. not saying it’s a bad call, certainly doesn’t merit police involvement, but I don’t know if I’d do it. i might very well feel different when mine are that age. hell, i flew across the country by myself at 15. depends on the kid and other factors i suppose. I flew internationally when I was like 9, with my 7YO sibling. Kids can do *SO* much if you just spend the time preparing them.
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evil_bunnY posted:LOL I'd send my 8 year old somewhere in a cab (if cabbies were competent at all where I live, gently caress cars). Same 8YO bikes their sibling (5YO) to school on the regular, I just mostly do it because I like spending the time with them. yeah but now you post in yospos so something somewhere went horribly wrong
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President Beep posted:yeah but now you post in yospos so something somewhere went horribly wrong  RokosCockatrice posted:Truth. this is something where norms and customs are really really variable. there was a story in the washington post about parents in a very safe maryland suburb who got investigated by child protective services for letting their kids (7, 9 iirc) walk half a mile to a playground in their subdivision. e: the general idea of “free range parenting” seems good, in that there are many parents who are limiting their kids more than necessary, but the degree to which you can let your kids do things fully on their own and at what age is not easy to figure out.
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echinopsis posted:but the ex wife leaves the kids at home for hours by themselves herself anyway. that;s hosed up!!!! i would be so annoyed by the hypocrisy i mean
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