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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

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Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

aren't you late for your book club?

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

whoops, my anarchy thread!

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

this is the closest thing i've ever seen to a thread where it's okay to ask goons for dono's

https://opencollective.com/club-a-kitchen/#category-CONTRIBUTE

if you're not to busy justifying genocide on VR chat or whatever it is you reds do

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
*tries to operate a factory but just end up walking around bumping into each other like homer simpsons sperm*

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

who hurt u?

bellows lugosi
Aug 9, 2003

anyone who isn't an anarchist is a technocrat moron who thinks they'll be at the helm of the vanguard party

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

ansel autisms posted:

anyone who isn't an anarchist is a technocrat moron who thinks they'll be at the helm of the vanguard party

you shouldn't talk about Marx this way

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

ansel autisms posted:

anyone who isn't an anarchist is a technocrat moron who thinks they'll be at the helm of the vanguard party

really?

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
My anecdotal experience with anarchist types is that they've been pretty chill whereas some of the hardcore ML types I know in real life take themselves a bit too seriously and don't know how to handle getting dunked on with grace. You can't reasonably extrapolate any of that into a political worldview but I'm doing it and you can't stop me, Mr. President.

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

christmas boots posted:

My anecdotal experience with anarchist types is that they've been pretty chill whereas some of the hardcore ML types I know take themselves a bit too seriously and don't know how to handle getting dunked on with grace. You can't reasonably extrapolate any of that into a political worldview but I'm doing it and you can't stop me, Mr. President.

When i was involved with marxist groups they were just bookclubs that some 38 year old treated as his personal podcast/dating mixer
anarchists actually accomplish things because they're not loving nerds

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Jellidelic posted:

When i was involved with marxist groups they were just bookclubs that some 38 year old treated as his personal podcast/dating mixer
anarchists actually accomplish things because they're not loving nerds

citation insanely needed

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

paul_soccer12 posted:

citation insanely needed

i cite you, nerd

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005
[gif of liberal getting beat up.]

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

Jellidelic posted:

who hurt u?

you’re half the posts itt

anarchists mean well but uh, lol

Badactura
Feb 14, 2019

My wish lives in the future.
Marxists critique like this but anarchists critique like that. Both are owned powerfully every day if they wake up in a liberal society

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Jellidelic posted:

When i was involved with marxist groups they were just bookclubs that some 38 year old treated as his personal podcast/dating mixer
anarchists actually accomplish things because they're not loving nerds

Don't kid yourself, all leftists are nerds. Lenin played D&D, Stalin watched anime, Marx had a cum jar under his bed, etc.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

are there any good anarchist tabletop rpg systems?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

What do anarchists think of Trotskyists, and does the existence of this thread mean there should be one for Trots

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Leninists don't hate the stomping boots, they hate that they're not the ones wearing them

the only Marxist derivatives worth a drat are the narodniks

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

Trash Ops posted:

you’re half the posts itt

anarchists mean well but uh, lol

this thread prompted it

my affinity group feeds and supplies ~1000 mostly undocumented people every week. from a vacant plot in brooklyn we've achieved averse possession on and turned into a garden and chicken farm https://bushwickcityfarm.wordpress.com/
there's other actions id mention wrt helping the houseless in our community but i'll just link this instead https://brokenwindownyc.noblogs.org/files/2020/05/howtosquat.pdf

you can talk about the validity of theory and critique all day but anarchists get results.
all the marxist groups ive been involved in or even aware of have mostly just gotten absorbed by the DSA and completely neutered

E: any NYC goons who wanna donate or volunteer are more than welcome and can PM me for more info.

Jellidelic has issued a correction as of 20:16 on Feb 2, 2021

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

jarofpiss posted:

are there any good anarchist tabletop rpg systems?

not an rpg, but this is like anarchist catan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PjNmfeimbE


Maximo Roboto posted:

What do anarchists think of Trotskyists, and does the existence of this thread mean there should be one for Trots

I went to meetings hosted by the now defunct and very trotskyist ISO for a while to see what they were about. they disintegrated because a lot of the leadership was found to be sex-pests lol.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

Jellidelic posted:

i cite you, nerd

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


while you were out "feeding the hungry" and "occupying property" I studied the theory

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/gobloid3/status/1290697606277079041

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Jellidelic posted:

this thread prompted it

my affinity group feeds and supplies ~1000 mostly undocumented people every week. from a vacant plot in brooklyn we've achieved averse possession on and turned into a garden and chicken farm https://bushwickcityfarm.wordpress.com/
there's other actions id mention wrt helping the houseless in our community but i'll just link this instead https://brokenwindownyc.noblogs.org/files/2020/05/howtosquat.pdf

you can talk about the validity of theory and critique all day but anarchists get results.
all the marxist groups ive been involved in or even aware of have mostly just gotten absorbed by the DSA and completely neutered

E: any NYC goons who wanna donate or volunteer are more than welcome and can PM me for more info.

don't poo poo talk the dsa motherfucker

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Maximo Roboto posted:

What do anarchists think of Trotskyists, and does the existence of this thread mean there should be one for Trots

I voted for one and she won her election, suck on that

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

lol

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Personally I've never read theory. I'm hoping EA turns it into a video game at some point.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/iwriteok/status/1076195675056959488?lang=en

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

paul_soccer12 posted:

don't poo poo talk the dsa motherfucker

The Squad is useless and the dsa is a clowncar

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



DSA are social democrats lol so much socialist revolutionary potential for theory lmao

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Didn't mean to derail this thread by bringing up Trots, I just observed that if there's anything that the groups on the left that orthodox M-L/socialists hate the most tend to be anarchists and Trots. Well with anarchists it might be more of a condescending annoyance towards them than actual hatred. I base this purely on forums, Twitter, and the fanfic Harry Potter Becomes A Communist

quote:

The next morning, we all went to the Great Hall for breakfast so that we could eat breakfast while in the Great Hall. I felt sick knowing that I was eating food produced by slavery, but at least the house-elves weren't loving wage slaves like so many of the proletarian workers in the third world countries exploited by loving IMPERIALIST CAPITALSIM!

"I don't like either communism or anarchism," said Hermione in a petit bourgeois voice, "but I've decided that anarchism is the better of two because it acknowledges how bad communism can be."

I was so mad that I couldn't say anything! Then Romilda Vane and her loving supporters burst into the Great Hall, all wearing T-shirts with the anarchist "A" and singing "Lenin sucks, Stalin drools, we want no one to makes the rules!" I clenched my teeth in RIGHTEOUS ANGER as Dumbledore started to clap imperialistically.

"Bravo!" he declared in a bourgeois voice. "It's so nice to see someone sticking it to those stupid commies! What do you guys call yourselves?"

"We're the Heirs of Bakunin," Romilda said stupidly in a whiny stupid voice. "We support anarchism. We think communism is worthless because Ronald Reagan said the Soviet Union was the evil empire and we believe that even though we know he was a lying imperialist. We say we're against capitalism, but we think it's more important to get rid of all government."

"Wow, that's almost the same thing as my libertarian views on limited government!" said Dumbledore happily. "Fifty points to Miss Vane for defending freedom! And unlike with communists, I've decided that anarchists will be allowed to express their views in the classrooms."

"You see that?" asked Hermione in an elitist voice. "Dumbledore is allowing people with revolutionary views to say what they want. That proves that freedom of speech is real."

"I also support this anarchism thing," said Professor McGonagall in a racist voice. "It sounds like a safe alternative to the scary changes which communism might bring."

"Wait just a minute there!" said Professor Pepsi in a loving VOICE. "I need to know more about this anarchism — not that Dumbledore needs my approval for any of his decisions in our free non-corporate-run society. Did you say you were against capitalism?"

"Yes, we must destroy capitalism!" Romilda said in a stupid anarchist voice. "Our plan is to destroy the horrible state and then capitalism will just go away or something!"

quote:

Suddenly, the door to the Great Hall burst open and in walked Dean Thomas.

"Hey, guys!" he said in an ignorant voice. "I've just discovered the greatest communist ever! His name was Leon Trotsky. He was an awesome guy and not a Nazi fifth columnist at all! The Soviet Union was pretty bad. It could've been wonderful, but Stalin ruined it all. Churchill was an amazing fellow and Chairman Mao killed more people than loving Hitler!"

"Go away!" I yelled in a voice of True Communism. "We don't want YOU loving TROTSKYITE REVISIONISTS!"

"You know, protesting against racist teachers and the libertarian maniac Dumbledore is all well and good," said Dean traitorously, "but you're underestimating the threat from the extreme right-wing Death Eaters, who are surely preparing to seize power even now."

"That's a great point!" said Dumbledore oppressively. "That's why we should all be united together no matter how racist you silly commies like to imagine we are!"

bellows lugosi
Aug 9, 2003

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Leninists don't hate the stomping boots, they hate that they're not the ones wearing them

alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

who gives a poo poo we're all cucks for capital

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

Maximo Roboto posted:

Didn't mean to derail this thread by bringing up Trots, I just observed that if there's anything that the groups on the left that orthodox M-L/socialists hate the most tend to be anarchists and Trots. Well with anarchists it might be more of a condescending annoyance towards them than actual hatred. I base this purely on forums, Twitter, and the fanfic Harry Potter Becomes A Communist

lmfao
no bullshit: at the bar after one of the ISO meetings I went to, I got invited to a quidditch match that weekend


also later on I was walking around on a date once, and bumped into one of them, they came up to me and said "HEY COMRADE" and i was so goddamned embarrassed

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

DSA are social democrats lol so much socialist revolutionary potential for theory lmao

DSA is worse than any Trot organization in history

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

an american socialist, and american anarchist, and an american communist walk into a bar. they do not know each other and have no cause to speak to one another. they each go home drunk and tweet how lame the other teams are. the bar closes and is replaced by a rite-aid pharmacy that sells even more liquor than the bar.

Goon Boots
Feb 2, 2020


mazzi Chart Czar posted:

[gif of liberal getting beat up.]

https://twitter.com/max_stirner1856/status/1178424464830324738?lang=en

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Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

I don’t get anarchism

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