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MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

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Insanite
Aug 30, 2005


right country and industry

wrong intellectual

https://twitter.com/Hideki_Naganuma/status/1367163881693401089?s=20

commielingus
Jan 23, 2021

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/ChrisLynnHedges/status/1366781882466250753?s=20

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
me

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

tbh after 1917, the best leftist intellectuals like Gramsci and Walter Rodney are likely to get murdered or jailed.

This is why podcasts stay mediocre. if Will Menaker embraces Marxist-Leninist Thought, the feds will put a bomb into his podcasting equipment.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
Due to things like the internet, public domain, and widespread literacy public intellectuals seem a lot less necessary now. All the essential M-L writing of the last 175 years is available for free in multiple languages and formats. Obv not everyone has the time or ability to read it/listen to it but broadly speaking the working class is as educated as it's ever been and reading theory/discussing theory is easier than ever. I'm sure public intellectuals still have a place in leftist movements but obv they should not be at the forefront of them

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Atrocious Joe posted:

tbh after 1917, the best leftist intellectuals like Gramsci and Walter Rodney are likely to get murdered or jailed.

This is why podcasts stay mediocre. if Will Menaker embraces Marxist-Leninist Thought, the feds will put a bomb into his podcasting equipment.

I thought the chapos were already a CIA OP.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018



This guy is still pretty good imo

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014

MeatwadIsGod posted:

Due to things like the internet, public domain, and widespread literacy public intellectuals seem a lot less necessary now. All the essential M-L writing of the last 175 years is available for free in multiple languages and formats. Obv not everyone has the time or ability to read it/listen to it but broadly speaking the working class is as educated as it's ever been and reading theory/discussing theory is easier than ever. I'm sure public intellectuals still have a place in leftist movements but obv they should not be at the forefront of them

I still think there's a place for a modern Chomsky or Parenti to contextualize modern events, and I think people like Vijay Prashad or even Michael Brooks (from what I've seen of him RIP) are doing this. Leftist podcasts on the other hand are loving boring.

commielingus
Jan 23, 2021

by Athanatos
Michael Brooks was liberal garbage and the way “leftists” keep deifying him is gross. He was good at hoodwinking the poor into identifying with their neoliberal oppressors in the Democrat Party, I’ll give him that. He also worked for MSNBC shill Sam Seder.

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Soul_ posted:

Matt's hobbyhorse is the alienation caused by liberal individualism, but he reaps more benefits from it than most people by being an antisocial weirdo

Sounds like a philosopher to me

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

your intellectual sucks!

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

MeatwadIsGod posted:

Due to things like the internet, public domain, and widespread literacy public intellectuals seem a lot less necessary now. All the essential M-L writing of the last 175 years is available for free in multiple languages and formats. Obv not everyone has the time or ability to read it/listen to it but broadly speaking the working class is as educated as it's ever been and reading theory/discussing theory is easier than ever. I'm sure public intellectuals still have a place in leftist movements but obv they should not be at the forefront of them

i think this forum is a good example of why it's important to have people who understand and think about socialism at a deeper level than memes

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

yeah me bitch

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

didnt read the thread. sorry if someone posted that one before

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
adolph reed, imo

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
I'm really disappointed with how poor a job Virgil did playing himself in Disco Elysium.

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

Whatever man that shits boring who cares

bird.
Jun 20, 2010

getfiscal

Soul_
Mar 7, 2021


Claims humans will go extinct because of climate change.
Verdict: Pseud

Soul_
Mar 7, 2021

R.Сам is killing it today. He's wrong about his analysis of the left, like confusing radlib exotericism with radlib esotericism and not acknowledging the (unrelated) schizo-Christian throughline, but all his takes are inspired and he's got Nick Land mad at him. Where is the equivalent with Matt Christman gloriously taunting Zizek? Nowhere.

thekeeshman
Feb 21, 2007
This thread's lack of Phil Greaves is shameful.

Also I thank Chomsky for all his good work, but he should retire so he can focus on his true passion, genocide denial. There are multiple genocides he could be denying right now, so I feel it's cruel to demand that he continue to be an intellectual.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Chomsky more like chumpsky

tiberion02
Mar 26, 2007

People tend to make the common mistake of believing that a situation will last forever.
Chris Hedges and Cornell West are very good.

(and Orb Mother, from like a more spiritual perspective. YMMV)

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Finicums Wake posted:

adolph reed, imo

Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


Sure OP. There's Rachel Maddow. David Frum. That ugly guy who looks hosed up.. Chris Hayes I think. Alan Colmes (RIP (Rest In Power)).

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

Sally Albright and Elon Musk, duh

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

leaning more heavily on the intellectual side there's also neil degrasse tyson

Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005

:buddy:



Grimey Drawer
Comrades:
-Michael Parenti
-David Harvey
-Richard Wolff
-Adolph Reed Jr

Not Comrades:
-Chris Hedges
-Noam Chomsky
-Ben Burgis and pretty much every guest that's appeared on The Majority Report and pretty much every host they've ever had

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

thekeeshman posted:

This thread's lack of Phil Greaves is shameful.

Also I thank Chomsky for all his good work, but he should retire so he can focus on his true passion, genocide denial. There are multiple genocides he could be denying right now, so I feel it's cruel to demand that he continue to be an intellectual.

chomsky kind of sucks, but not because he likes denying genocides. stick to video games

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!
i haven't read any of zizek's books, so i can't say if he's good or not, ultimately. but he did the left a huge favor in owning jordan peterson, so maybe zizek counts

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

Soul_ posted:

R.Сам is killing it today. He's wrong about his analysis of the left, like confusing radlib exotericism with radlib esotericism and not acknowledging the (unrelated) schizo-Christian throughline, but all his takes are inspired and he's got Nick Land mad at him. Where is the equivalent with Matt Christman gloriously taunting Zizek? Nowhere.

are you talking about some twitter personality? i don't understand the significance of pissing off some dumb, has-been philosopher boomer like nick land. nor do i understand the hypothetical significance of a situation where christman 'gloriously' taunts zizek. i'm extremely online and brokebrained, yet i still can't understand this post

thekeeshman
Feb 21, 2007

Finicums Wake posted:

chomsky kind of sucks, but not because he likes denying genocides. stick to video games

I'm open to the idea that Chomsky sucks for many reasons, but I regard genocide denial as a sucky thing so I will keep that on the list of Chomsky's multi-faceted suckitude. Feel free to add to the list.

If you think genocide denial is not a sucky thing then maybe you're the one in the wrong forum? I'm sure you can find other places to hang out with your fellow tankies.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

which genocide is he denying again

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
Cambodian I'm guessing, and he also gets accused of denying Srebrenica as a genocide (I don't know much about the whole Yugoslav confilct) . Edward Herman (the guy who wrote most of Manafacturing Consent) also denies the Rwandan genocide.

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

just got off the phone with Noam. I asked him if he believed the Holocaust happened and he laughed and hung up on me. Very rude!

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Lookit at this sorry collection of plebes and assorted lumpens who have never read professor boaventura santos, buncha armchair socialists.
Next you're gonna tell me you haven't read Badiou or michael hardt, as if

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
that hot Catholic lady

Soul_
Mar 7, 2021

Finicums Wake posted:

are you talking about some twitter personality? i don't understand the significance of pissing off some dumb, has-been philosopher boomer like nick land. nor do i understand the hypothetical significance of a situation where christman 'gloriously' taunts zizek. i'm extremely online and brokebrained, yet i still can't understand this post

Nick Land being pissed was an emblem of so many NeoRX and more generalized alt-right people being pissed. And Matt Christman making Zizek mad would show that Matt is willing to say anything, although I can't imagine Zizek ever getting in a Twitter dispute. If he's mad at someone he just writes an article where he uses his anger as a jumping off point for some bigger argument.

Wheeee posted:

which genocide is he denying again

Bosnian and Cambodian. Denying a genocide is also good evidence that someone is just a pundit and a pseud because genocide denial is always for politically convenient reasons.

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Soul_
Mar 7, 2021

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