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There's a MotoE race now too? Interesting. e: esnipe 
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busalover posted:There's a MotoE race now too? Interesting. Race 1 yesterday ended in a suitably spicy manner....
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May 1, 2022 11:33
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Bomb-omb Texting posted:Have any of you been to watch the races in person? What was your experience and would you recommend going? I myself would have the opportunity to go and watch the Kymiring GP but I'm not sure if it's worth the tickets and drive. I want to go see another race this year, maybe in Finland as it's a short trip.
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May 1, 2022 11:47
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gregbest90 posted:Race 1 yesterday ended in a suitably spicy manner.... I'm guessing they all ran out of power? hehe
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May 1, 2022 11:51
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busalover posted:I'm guessing they all ran out of power? hehe Think more "collisions toward end of raceand epic long shots of violent fist shaking"... Ogura absolutely stellar today, Taka had better find a ride elsewhere because he's so done...
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May 1, 2022 12:33
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Bomb-omb Texting posted:Have any of you been to watch the races in person? What was your experience and would you recommend going? I myself would have the opportunity to go and watch the Kymiring GP but I'm not sure if it's worth the tickets and drive. I've been to Assen a bunch of times and Jerez once, I think its well worth going to a GP even if its just once. Assen is great and efficiently run in terms of transport to the circuit and facilities when you're there, Jerez is a bit more chaotic and harder to get to and from. This is the first year in the Kymiring so its an unknown in terms of fan experience, but i'm hoping to go there next year if it looks good this season, assuming the russians dont start special military operating in Finland in the interim.
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May 1, 2022 13:28
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fun battle for third
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gregbest90 posted:Think more "collisions toward end of raceand epic long shots of violent fist shaking"... I wish taka, pol, jack and rins luck with their future endeavours And Alex if there was any goddamn justice on this earth
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May 2, 2022 01:08
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Bomb-omb Texting posted:Have any of you been to watch the races in person? What was your experience and would you recommend going? I myself would have the opportunity to go and watch the Kymiring GP but I'm not sure if it's worth the tickets and drive. Ive been to Sepang a couple of times, great experience. I mean you dont get any appreciation from TV just how loud and fast the bikes are but apart from that the whole experience of being in a stadium with like 100,000 motoGP fans cant be matched Slavvy posted:I wish taka, pol, jack and rins luck with their future endeavours You missed Frankie, if Lin Jarvis' comments yesterday were anything to go by I mean if 1 guy does good on a Yamaha and the rest consistently do poo poo, it couldnt possibly be the bike ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 04:40 on May 2, 2022 |
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May 2, 2022 04:35
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Been getting really into GP over the past few months, quickly shot up to my favorite sport to follow. Hit up COTA this year with some buds and we were glued to our seats in turn 12, made lifelong fans out of all of us. Going to perma have this tab open for the forseeable future. Quick question though coming from a moto/supercross background, is there a good reason Kawasaki isn't in this scene? Coming from a sport dominated by Yamaha/Honda/Kawi/Suzuki to one with all the major players minus them seems weird. Edit: I appear to have spoken too soon about what mfgs are in motoGP. I'm guessing the answer to my Kawi question is "it doesn't sell bikes to have a MotoGP team" https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/suzuki-set-to-quit-motogp-at-the-end-of-2022/10268146/ Nazzadan fucked around with this message at 18:19 on May 2, 2022 |
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May 2, 2022 15:39
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https://the-race.com/motogp/suzuki-to-exit-motogp-at-the-end-of-2022/ Suzuki
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May 2, 2022 18:53
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Kawi is near top of the heap in WSBK and it took them a while to get there. I don't imagine they want to spend a bunch of $$$ trying to develop a motogp bike from scratch just to be near the rear end end. Incredible save by Marq from that lowside.
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Surprising to see Suzuki bow out. They've been doing well. Had heard zero rumors.Bomb-omb Texting posted:Have any of you been to watch the races in person? What was your experience and would you recommend going? I myself would have the opportunity to go and watch the Kymiring GP but I'm not sure if it's worth the tickets and drive. Did COTA back in 2019. Super fun scene. Looking forward to going again sometime. IDK how things are in post COVID times, but when I did COTA, it was also a full on motorcycle trade show. Bike and gear manufacture had a big presence. Showing off new bikes, gear, prototype stuff, historical, etc. Even manufacturers that aren't directly in MotoGP. Like Indian was there with their, at the time, forthcoming FTR1200.
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Nazzadan posted:Been getting really into GP over the past few months, quickly shot up to my favorite sport to follow. Hit up COTA this year with some buds and we were glued to our seats in turn 12, made lifelong fans out of all of us. Going to perma have this tab open for the forseeable future. Kawasaki choose to dominate wsbk for the same amount of money that would trap them forever downfield in GP. IMO they lack the chassis nous to achieve anything even if budget wasn't an issue. Jim Silly-Balls posted:https://the-race.com/motogp/suzuki-to-exit-motogp-at-the-end-of-2022/ What the fuuuuck is someone in Japan is having a seizure? Jfc
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May 2, 2022 19:28
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:https://the-race.com/motogp/suzuki-to-exit-motogp-at-the-end-of-2022/ I'm genuinely baffled... Mir will land fine but I'm not so sure about Rins, if a 2nd Aprilia team props up or something, do they have a punt? What is interesting is that Michael Laverty was saying the week before last that he's incredibly keen to have the VisionTrack team run all the way up to GP; he would be keen as soon as a spot opens up. Wonder if he's crazy and/or backed enough to throw hat in ring?
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May 2, 2022 21:09
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Yeah it's baffling because it's not Suzuki of the last 20 years who just tour around mid pack for the sake of being there, it's a Suzuki team that's actually competitive and won the world title. Quitting now seems bizarre.
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May 2, 2022 23:00
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Yeah, seems crazy. But, judging by stagnant their product line is, I'd say the company doesn't seem to care about motorcycles. They're the Nissan of motorcycles. That and I think we're headed into a global recession.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:https://the-race.com/motogp/suzuki-to-exit-motogp-at-the-end-of-2022/  and just as they were having the best couple seasons in recent memory. Oh well.
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My assumption has always been that Suzuki has just left their range to wither to avoid having to develop modern emissions equipment (I think a lot of their models were grandfathered) so maybe they've decided now is the time to do that and this is where the cash is gonna come from 🤷🏼♂️ I do wonder if they genuinely don't care about motorcycles what they actually do care about, cause they completely scrapped the US car market after the financial crisis. I don't think they're gonna survive the transition to EVs just on selling cars in the Asian and European market. Also if Aprilia had any sense they'd be ringing up Mir and then failing that Rins to replace Binales Tony quidprano fucked around with this message at 00:55 on May 4, 2022 |
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They released an ~all new~ hayabusa, but i think everything else is on a 20+ year platform.
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italian quid posted:My assumption has always been that Suzuki has just left their range to wither to avoid having to develop modern emissions equipment (I think a lot of their models were grandfathered) so maybe they've decided now is the time to do that and this is where the cash is gonna come from 🤷🏼♂️ Mir is off to Honda. I'd take binales over rins any day, he's currently doing what Lorenzo did at Ducati and hopefully Aprilia aren't dumb enough to fire him right before he overtakes aleix. Rins crashes out of podium positions about as often as Miller and I'd want him on my team about as much. Russian Bear posted:They released an ~all new~ hayabusa, but i think everything else is on a 20+ year platform. It's hard to tell what they're doing. It's bizarre that they'd make that decision so suddenly, unilaterally, in the middle of a season. Screams internal politics to me tbh; why would you sign a 5 year agreement with dorna, hire livio suppo, jostle for rider contracts etc if you're just going to pull the pin? I don't buy the financial crisis explanation, covid has been around for years and Ukraine won't affect bike sales that much I don't think.
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Binales is hosed in the head and no amount of adjustments to the bike are gonna fix that. I think the dude is both the most natural talented and stupidest racer I've ever seen outside of like one Venezuelan dude I kart raced with. I really can't fathom what people see in the dude because he just consistently is nowhere and then once in like a dozen races things manage to go to the plan he has in his head for the weekend before FP1 and he doesn't completely loving meltdown. and on that basis people seem to think he deserves like 20 kilometres more of rope to hang himself with. Tony quidprano fucked around with this message at 05:27 on May 4, 2022 |
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May 4, 2022 05:24
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italian quid posted:Binales is hosed in the head I'd argue the opposite, that he's not hosed in the head enough. I think he just has a sense of human mortality. Don't think he's willing to fully put life and limb on the line for fame and glory.
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initially I was going to agree with you because I can't recall the last high profile crash he had. but then I remembered it was that massive crash in Austria and it was because he ignored the advice of Brembo and chose brakes they told him not to use so I'm back to believing its down to him being a moron.
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Yeah, not going to say he's smart. I just especially don't feel like he's willing to let it all hang out for the holeshot. And not willing to get roughed up in the first few laps.
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Get hosed Fenati
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Still shocking to me that he was even allowed to race after that front brake incident.
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May 5, 2022 23:09
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not that I'm really going to dispute that Fenati doesn't deserve to be in Moto2 but did something else happen behind the scenes? the Speed Up bikes aren't exactly world beaters so it feels weird to cut him loose after a quarter of a season even if his teammate is doing comparatively better.
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lol reading more on The-Race.com, the Suzuki news came out right before Golden Week in Japan, which is a week-long national holiday, so of course no one at HQ can be reached for clarification.
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italian quid posted:not that I'm really going to dispute that Fenati doesn't deserve to be in Moto2 but did something else happen behind the scenes? the Speed Up bikes aren't exactly world beaters so it feels weird to cut him loose after a quarter of a season even if his teammate is doing comparatively better. I think it's the fact that aldegeur is like twelve years old and clowning on veterans with the same machine
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GriszledMelkaba posted:Get hosed Fenati
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Chris Knight posted:lol reading more on The-Race.com, the Suzuki news came out right before Golden Week in Japan, which is a week-long national holiday, so of course no one at HQ can be reached for clarification. Taking a page from the Italian handbook. "Sorry we're on vacation".
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Wonder how serious this is: https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Germany-Italy-raid-Suzuki-over-defeat-devices-in-diesel-engines Might be playing a part in their decision to bail on MotoGP.
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Why? Do you think they're already factoring the amount of fines they'll have to pay?
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busalover posted:Why? Do you think they're already factoring the amount of fines they'll have to pay? Just for the sake of reference (diff market segment, diff size, etc.) VW has been eating a ton of fines globally since 2015..."Volkswagen has since paid well over $20 billion in fines and legal settlements related to its diesel emissions cheating." Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/business/volkswagen-bmw-daimler-emissions-scandal.html Dunno how widespread it was at Suzuku...but could stand to lose quite a chunk of $ E: ah it seems to effect italian-made diesel engines https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/german-prosecutors-mount-raids-over-suzuki-cars-alleged-test-dodging-2022-04-27/ SocksAndSandals fucked around with this message at 00:08 on May 10, 2022 |
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Also the VW scandal torpedoed some Porsche and Audi racing plans as well. So it is not unprecedented.
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There's cheating going on and someone was pissed enough about it to leak the Michelin tire pressure data to the media. Can't say I blame them. https://twitter.com/matoxley/status/1523954346022604800?t=PENOuIDzaodPm6K5xFj_IA&s=19
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Ehh, if there's no penalty the only reason other teams aren't doing it is if there's no advantage for their bike to do so. Sounds like somebody (YAMAHA) are sore losers lol
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It is literally against the rules, the minimum pressures are set by Michelin, theoretically based on safety. It's a huge deal, especially as Michelin monitor pressures throughout so there's really no way to cheat without at least the tyre guy the team deals with being complicit. E: looking into it further, it turns out michelin are powerless to enforce tyre pressures because the only way to censure a manufacturer for doing it is for the MSMA to vote on it. Which they won't, because they've collectively decided that flouting the rules won't be penalized, and the organiser has gone along with this because they're unprofessional as gently caress. Just a garbage situation all-round, we now have no way of knowing if quartararo could've actually caught bagnaia at the last race, because one of them had an underinflated front tyre while the other was playing by the rules and overheating his front every time he got behind another bike. To me as a fan this is far, far more damaging than suzuki leaving or marquez never getting penalised for anything, because it undermines the very basis of it being a sporting competition and calls into question basically all the results of the last couple of years. Slavvy fucked around with this message at 01:25 on May 11, 2022 |
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F1 teams were trying and succeeding with loving around with this last year that led to newer stricter rules. No surprise to see it here.
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