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Kraftwerk posted:What exactly happens if you cheat and give yourself 6666? I did a playthrough this way and you pass pretty much every check like you'd think, but you're essentially spacing out for minutes at a time between every dialog choice because all your skills are yelling constantly in your head. You're the most competent version of the detective (especially when throwing a shotput) but in a way also by far the most insane. Might be worth doing once as a gimmick once you're familiar with the game but it's not really the core experience.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Yeah Evrart will hand you a comically oversized check which you can cash in IIRC but I don't remember how to argue the price down with Garte, is there a skill requirement for it? You can also threaten to arrest him if you have a high authority
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Apr 1, 2021 20:35
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Makes sense, Half-Light is basically your Fight or Flight so it's always gonna go to the extremes like that.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:26
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GlyphGryph posted:Internalizing a subject doesn't mean becoming its adherent, or even agreeing with it, it just means understanding it at a fundamental enough level that it affects how you interact with the world for having thought about it so long. As such internalizing can have many different outcomes, some rather unexpected. OTOH you can also find a different way in that doesn't involve musing over the intellectual validity of phrenology and victorian race science for several hours.
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Apr 1, 2021 23:26
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GlyphGryph posted:Yeah the fact that the narration completely cuts out whenever anyone talks, even if it means cutting out or picking up halfway through a goddamn sentence is super weird and confusing. Makes sense. I group Communist!Harry with Sorry Cop on similar grounds. "Coping" by feeling bad about yourself all the time. E: But also Art Cop because Conceptualization and Rhetoric are neighbors
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Apr 2, 2021 18:14
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Kraftwerk posted:How do you clean up your mental health and get a good ending? Im trying really hard to clean up my act and help Harry move on with his life but I think I already triggered the bad end flags by reading the letter in the ledger. It helps if you douse yourself in bug pheremones.
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Apr 2, 2021 19:32
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Dapper_Swindler posted:somewhat agree, but the dude does enough changes in tone and poo poo that it mostly works. apparently the devs thought it would confuse/overwhelm people too much if you had like 5 people screaming at you constantly. Probably fair. If they'd included different voices I absolutely would have tried a 6/6/6/6 cheat run to bask in the cacophony of some 30 screaming into the void.
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Apr 2, 2021 20:11
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Psykmoe posted:Being able to get a game over from morale and health damage has always been a thing, and if your Volition is low, interactions with Cuno (or getting laughed at by him) are dangerous To answer your question: It has always been that way but I missed it too at first.
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Apr 2, 2021 22:19
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Still, they let you take healing items even as your last health or morale point bleeds away if you have any.
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Sekenr posted:Wow, I only just realized the the women and foreigners angle with revachol nationhood. It felt weird how does hatred of women enter the equation "This is the baddest of all the ideologies, so no one admits they're a fascist. Rather, they're “traditionalists”. Or “nationalists”, a term they get really angry if you associate with fascism. (No one wants leprosy on their brand.) The emotional draw here is, of course, that pretty girl who didn't want to sleep with you. The other ideologies don't explain why that happened. Fascism does. Because the commies pushed the king under a street car and now nothing in the world is holy or beautiful. During your stay in Revachol plenty of women will tell you no, so, naturally, most people will pick this one. I mean, who doesn't want “absolutely giant fascist” in their Steam achievements? Also, it goes really well with alcoholism."
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Apr 2, 2021 23:50
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Sekenr posted:Uh, what? Way to project, here is no emotional draw, I wanted to see the part of the game I didn't explore yet. It's from one of the writeups of the political ideologies. Each one gets one, but that specifically touches on how fascism tied up in issues with women. Communism quote:No one wants to be associated with communism by the time you get there. The party is over. They'd rather call themselves socialists and social democrats. No wonder – commies got their asses handed to them 50 years ago. Their little commune got wiped off the face of the Earth. Even worse, the civil war gave foreign powers a casus belli to invade Revachol and now look at the poo poo we're in. Also, Kras Mazov, the father of scientific communism killed himself. Moralism quote:Finally! Something normal. Enough of those ramblings – in this world there is also a sensible ideology for people who simply want to do good by everyone. How? By looking at the options on the table and saying: no. I don't want any of those associated with me. I just want to play a regular, inconsequential, doesn't-really-believe-in-anything type of detective. Ultraliberal quote:Do you “grind” and “hustle?” Sure you do. You're a money engineer. A money scientist. You move money on a level inconceivable to the ordinary citizen. What is money, anyway? Money is trust.
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Sekenr posted:No, I did not, in the context of this computer game it is not obviously apparent. It simply isn't Honestly I just can't agree. The game was completely unsubtle about this in my opinion.
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Apr 3, 2021 02:08
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The furies can have little a truce
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Roobanguy posted:i also got that. it could also be getting the hardies to respect you? but i have no clue. .1% seems like a very low amount tho if it was just acing the showdown It's also one of the new achievements so if that is what pops it, the stat might be dragged down by counting people who played the pre-update version of the game. E: Max Stat run means you pass most of the checks (for better or for worse) and time passes much quicker because all your skills are piping in constantly. christmas boots fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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Nosfereefer posted:Personally I think it's pretty much the point of her character. It might all be true, it might all be lies. It could be an intricate web of truth and falseness to throw you off. She's a master manipulator, and everything she tells you could just be for you to reach a favourable verdict of her. Or she could genuinely be remorseful at this point, and actually want you to judge her honestly. She's a broken, contradictory person, just like Harry. Or maybe she's calculating her best bet for getting scot free. It shouldn't be an easy choice. If you have a high Shivers and you arrest her, it’s basically confirmed that if nothing else, her fear that being arrested means she’ll be murdered is justified
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OTOH something was always going to happen because Evrart needed it to
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IIRC there's really only a handful of items that you miss out on stuff by selling*. You can sell the postcards with no hesitation. *And none of it's vital, so do what you need to do hobo-buddy.
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Ok, working out my thematically appropriate builds for Final Cut: Intellect/Psyche/Physical/Motorics Communist - 4/4/2/2, signature skill: Rhetoric Moralist: 2/4/2/4, Empathy(?) Fascist: 2/2/4/4 - Endurance Ultraliberal: 4/2/2/4 - Savoir Faire This seem about right? I know it doesn't really matter exactly GlyphGryph posted:What does everyone think is the worst skill? Not in terms of uselessness but in terms of leading you to the worst possible outcomes. I think Authority ..... has it by a country mile. Electrochemistry. OTOH Electrochemistry is the best skill leading you to the best possible outcomes, which are the same ones.
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Apr 5, 2021 20:46
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Randarkman posted:It might not seem immediately intuitive, but Conceptualization would also be a good signature skill for ultraliberal, the vision quest is all about art and there are alot of Conceptualization passives in it. Yeah, that's why I decided to beef up the Intellect stat for that one to get the synergy going. Savoir Faire is the skill who talks you about the ideology which is why I made it the signature, but you make a good point.
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Randarkman posted:Again, this is informed by the vision quest, and I haven't tried going into that one with generally high intellect and related skills, but I remember from my first (Communist) run that Rethoric and such are your politically aware skills, and although you want to get art you don't really want Rethoric or Logic cramping your style by pointing out the violence inherent in the capitalist economic system. So while you want Conceptualization to be high, the hustlerest of builds would probably try to keep the other Intellect skills low. Ok, so maybe Ultraliberal: 2/4/2/4 tag: Conceptualization and then make Moralist 2/4/4/2?
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sean10mm posted:I really like 4-2-2-4 + Volition as a commie actually Not unreasonable. When all of your other skills tell you that it's impossible to achieve communism, Volition is the one who says that's why you need to. Volition should have had the same voice actor as Kim.
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FWIW this is the studio's first game and the Final Cut was a decidedly more ambitious release than the original so I'm not surprised that the messaging is a little rough at this point.
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BurningBeard posted:I'm not entirely sure why ambition precludes firing off a tweet when things aren't going according to plan. I mean community relations is obviously ideal in a situation like this so we can at least read between the lines for some bullshit. I'm not trying to harp on you here specifically. But man, I don't really see why anyone should be let off the hook for shipping a defective product. Even owning the fact is better than what's happening. I’m just saying maybe the communication’s not as good as it should be because they haven’t had to do it before. And uh, no I didn’t think you were harping on me specifically.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Not an ending I would want personally I think the idea is that prior to that night you've just been repeating cycles of dreams in your self-destructive loop. So that you've managed to eke out a single peaceful night is meaningful because it is a chance for your mind to actually rest for the first time in who knows long. It's not the end of the road but it's not nothing either.
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It’s also not just the break up. Harry was also putting in an absolutely tremendous and unsustainable amount of effort into the work and closing all those cases. That’s just as responsible for his burnout imo
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Aye Doc posted:yeah but a game where harry hangs himself in the closet from love-loss-induced despair wouldn't have been long or good It was actually a ceiling fan thank you 
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Apr 7, 2021 00:39
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Kobal2 posted:But that's the break up too, isn't it ? I admit I don't really have a timeline all pegged out on a whiteboard filled with Clues and red strings ; but I assumed the reason Raphaël drowned himself in the work was to try and get his mind away from Her and focused on something, anything else. in addition to what others have said we also know it can’t all have been in the past six years because Harry solved over 200 cases in those 18 years and according to Kim anything over 10/yr is considered absolutely phenomenal
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Apr 7, 2021 02:40
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They really did a great job with Kim hitting the balance so that he’s the competent professional without being a total buzzkill that won’t tolerate your shenanigans and with a high Espirit de Corps it even points out that though he doesn’t believe supernatural stuff is afoot he still takes it seriously when you claim to get psychic hunches because he just assumes your intuition is picking up on something he missed. He really is the best partner you could ask for
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Kraftwerk posted:Yeah he's a perfect foil for Harry's wacky personality and greatly helps him out when he struggles. A buddy cop movie of these two would be a great thing to watch. Not even implied IIRC. But you need to pass a composure check when talking to the Smoker to get the Homo-Sexual Underground thought and then once you've finished internalizing it you can ask Kim and he'll tell you simply because that thought takes 8 hours to finish and Kim would prefer you start focusing on the case
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I’ve tried to build a Pavlovian response so that every time an objective updates in a game I reflexively quicksave
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I forget, does that also tie into Evrart's plan to instigate strikes in other places too buy provoking a confrontation with Wild Pines?
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Lightningproof posted:Wild how DE's message is both that communism isn't perfect or spotless and also that communism failed because *really mean baddies* who *weren't Proper Communists* ended up in charge of it somehow everywhere it ever happened. IIRC the revolution failed because of outside military intervention from people who weren’t just “not proper communists” but explicit anti-communists
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Pssh, who cares what that binoclard thinks
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Yeah, I think it would undercut the games themes if you were able Great Man of History your way through the aftermath of a drunken bender
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Apr 11, 2021 01:42
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You could argue that it makes it less of an RPG than a visual novel.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well its a hell of a good one then. i'll take a visual novel like disco over "art" games like everybodys gone to rapture I didn’t say that as a criticism of the game
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I believe at least one of them has struggled with alcoholism IIRC
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Lt. Lizard posted:Wow, they really failed at failing at making a video game. lmao they can't loving do anything right
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GlyphGryph posted:Is this all new stuff? I don't recall any context where this sequence if events makes sense, but maybe its new stuff! Either way its got me excited to play more Probably part of the new Moralism quest, I'd guess?
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