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fisting by many posted:So, we're looking at 2024 now for the bad contracts to be over. Assuming Benning isn't extended after 2022-2023 he probably won't be able to sign any more anchors past 2026 at the latest. In 2027 Petey, Hughes and Boeser will be 29-30, just past their primes. So that's our contention window. He's gotta lock up Sutter and Vesey at 6x6 a piece.
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Rotten Cookies posted:Matt Martin has one this season Here it is. Matt Martin officially on the Drai/McD level. Time to pack it up.
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Rotten Cookies posted:Matt Martin has one this season hockey is my favorite sport because even the shittiest players can do stuff like this except jack johnson
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Apr 8, 2021 22:46
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That's not at all what I meant. I'm talking about the play McDavid/Draisaitl make when there's a bunch of other things that most players/teams would do on a 4on3. Firing a one-timer from the corner is about at the bottom of the list and its clear that's their play all along. Throwing a wrister from the corner when the goalie misplays is not what I'm talking about at all.
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Apr 8, 2021 22:48
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The worst player in the NHL is still one of the best hockey players of all time. Except John Scott. John Scott was never good at any level.
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Apr 8, 2021 22:49
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Aphrodite posted:The worst player in the NHL is still one of the best hockey players of all time. I think a player that makes an all star game worth watching, regardless of how they do it, deserves some degree of respect.
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Apr 8, 2021 22:51
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:That's not at all what I meant. I'm talking about the play McDavid/Draisaitl make when there's a bunch of other things that most players/teams would do on a 4on3. Firing a one-timer from the corner is about at the bottom of the list and its clear that's their play all along. Wrong sport to move those goal posts.
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Apr 8, 2021 22:54
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Aphrodite posted:The worst player in the NHL is still one of the best hockey players of all time. That's All-Star Game MVP John Scott to you 
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Wrong sport to move those goal posts. I said McDavid and Draisaitl so it's pretty obvious I'm not speaking about just the shot but the play itself but keep on keepin on!
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Apr 8, 2021 22:59
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Jim Benning is just so unbelievably loving stupid Edit: actually at this point it's entirely believable and unsurprising
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Apr 8, 2021 23:04
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:I said McDavid and Draisaitl so it's pretty obvious I'm not speaking about just the shot but the play itself but keep on keepin on! I take your point but again that specific example doesn't really hold because as someone mentioned, Guentzel and old man Crosby do that combo at least once a season and while cool goal-line shots and behind the back no-look passes are not exactly examples of otherworldly skill anymore. Now it's all about lacross goals goldrush posted:Jim Benning is just so unbelievably loving stupid be glad it's not 6 years, $3.5 million my friend
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Apr 8, 2021 23:09
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goldrush posted:Jim Benning is just so unbelievably loving stupid Problem is the ownership are so onboard with it all. If Benning was going to be not resigned because of his terrible terrible contracts then they wouldn’t have let him sign another. So that probably means he’s also getting an extension. That said, I don’t think this one is as bad as others, I think Pearson will provide decent (slightly overpaid) value for the contract. He’s one of the few guys who can actually play defence, provided he doesn’t slow down too much I don’t think he will become a liability. The problem is after all the other dead weights adding in even another 500k -1 mil of lost value is really limiting. Let’s just hope now he doesn’t run out of time to sign petey and Hughes...
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:I said McDavid and Draisaitl so it's pretty obvious I'm not speaking about just the shot but the play itself but keep on keepin on! Oh wow a no pressure zone entry against a bottom 3 team in the league leading to a goal that Sid, Byfuglien, Girox I think has a few, and Matt Martin scored. Yeah definitely something only Drai and McDavid could do.
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VOTE1 posted:Problem is the ownership are so onboard with it all. If Benning was going to be not resigned because of his terrible terrible contracts then they wouldn’t have let him sign another. So that probably means he’s also getting an extension. He really, really can't afford to slow down my biggest knock against his Pens tenure was that he was already just barely keeping up with the play Great hands, smart enough, slower on the rush than Patric Hornqvist
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Aaron Portzline says David Savard is being held out of tonight's game vs. Tampa.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:He really, really can't afford to slow down Yeah agree and that’s the variable between slight overpayment and loui is. Normally I’d say I’m sure the team has done their analysis with fancy science stuff to track his skating technique and have determined he’s a lower than average chance to drop further (given the large amount of money they have thrown at him), but yeah I suspect the vibe of things has more to do with it.
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Give up assets for Toffoli then let him walk and sign 4.25 x 4 so he can be almost a PPG player in Montreal and then turn around and lock down Pearson 3.25 x 3. Toffoli literally has 3 times the amount of points. Was the 1 mil and 1 year savings worth it Jim? Toffoli doesn’t even have trade protection! I thought they shortened Benning’s leash...I’m so sorry Vancouver
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The biggest thing for me is not Pearson's contract value as a player, but his value as an asset in the current cap environment. Guys like him making 3m are negative value right now. Yes, he can help your team, but there are many other Pearsons. 3m in cap space is worth substantially more than one Pearson. Teams will pay you to take their Pearsons. There is zero upside to this move and no urgency to make it.
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fisting by many posted:The biggest thing for me is not Pearson's contract value as a player, but his value as an asset in the current cap environment. Yeah it’s not a massive overpay it’s just horrible cap management when you let better players walk and the players you actually sign are not good enough to justify taking cap space from a team that has a very large bill coming it’s way in regards to its young stars. Also can’t fathom why they felt the need to give him trade protection. The classic lose lose contract. I love it
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Pearson was worth significantly more as a rental player than whatever the gently caress he is now.
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fisting by many posted:The biggest thing for me is not Pearson's contract value as a player, but his value as an asset in the current cap environment. Exactly. I don't mind Pearson, but he's easily replacable.
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WeaponX posted:Give up assets for Toffoli then let him walk and sign 4.25 x 4 so he can be almost a PPG player in Montreal and then turn around and lock down Pearson 3.25 x 3. Toffoli literally has 3 times the amount of points. Was the 1 mil and 1 year savings worth it Jim? Toffoli doesn’t even have trade protection! The Oilers lets Chiarelli sign Koskinen to that funny contract like a week before they fired his rear end, who knows
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The Dirty Burger posted:The Oilers lets Chiarelli sign Koskinen to that funny contract like a week before they fired his rear end, who knows It was literally the day before he got fired, but from what I recall that was an entire management decision (so Keith Gretzky et al.) rather than just Chiarelli going rogue as a last "gently caress you"
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Gimme that Hall news already. I wanna see him for for a 3rd and a bust then put up $GOALs
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The Canucks news cycle is so depressing. Media: "We're hearing the Canucks are going to do something that makes no sense for them whatsoever, instead of the obvious move that does." Fans: "Wow that makes sense, don't do that." *two weeks later* Media: "Well they're about to do that stupid thing and it's going to be way worse than you expected." Fans: "Oh God please don't." *two days later* Media: "well they did the stupid thing and it still makes no sense but it's not quite as awful as we said two days ago so actually it's quite astute." Fans: "it still seems like a ba-" Some idiots: "WOO YEAH GREAT DEAL LET'S FUCCKING GOOOOO" This repeats forever until you die.
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That 7-8 year stint where the Sedins were both super good was pretty neat to watch though, eh?
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:That 7-8 year stint where the Sedins were both super good was pretty neat to watch though, eh? Those were good times. Ah, if only losing to Boston and LA didn't give Aquilini brain poisoning.
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fisting by many posted:Those were good times. The money did that
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VOTE1 posted:Yeah agree and that’s the variable between slight overpayment and loui is. Normally I’d say I’m sure the team has done their analysis with fancy science stuff to track his skating technique and have determined he’s a lower than average chance to drop further (given the large amount of money they have thrown at him), but yeah I suspect the vibe of things has more to do with it. the canucks entire front office is 3 people. their in house counsel is also their advanced stats guy
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https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1380310538404696065
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I stopped following the Canucks after Benning hosed up the 2014 draft trades and honestly it was one of the best decisions I ever made.
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Guess he should have used his elbow
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Bought an Aho jersey tonight, he scores the first goal. Kismet.
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Podkolzin now has to come in on an ELC next year and be a middle six hit for Vancouver without question. There is no margin for error now. No pressure, Vasily! This team has no plan goldrush fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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The Edmonton Oilers swept the Ottawa Senators in their 9 game season series, all wins in regulation no less.
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Nocheez posted:Bought an Aho jersey tonight, he scores the first goal. Kismet. Aho is cool and good
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Canucks haven't lost a game in over 2 weeks, Benning is a genius for not selling at the deadline
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https://twitter.com/SNstats/status/1380331486423945216 I was waiting for a stat like this 
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