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i've said this before, but i cannot believe how bad anfernee simons is on defense
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# ¿ May 3, 2021 18:52 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 07:37 |
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Dexo posted:Who's worse, Him or Coby White? i have not watched coby as much, but i can say with confidence that anfernee is the worst. he may literally be the worst defender in the league.
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# ¿ May 3, 2021 19:03 |
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jesus
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# ¿ May 3, 2021 20:14 |
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I think that's the most embarrassing clip since that Sam Dekker one.
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# ¿ May 4, 2021 02:20 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHPe6PdKhA dokmo fucked around with this message at 03:35 on May 4, 2021 |
# ¿ May 4, 2021 03:32 |
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upon further research, i've come to the conclusion that anfernee simons is the worst defender in the league, and likely the worst defender of any player who has played more than 500 minutes over the last decade (with the possible exception of collinn sexton and jimmer)
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# ¿ May 5, 2021 16:36 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:Apparently Jimmer played 6 games with the suns in 2019? what? join me, won't you, on this look back at jimmer's 2019 season with the suns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2a3FwV9en4
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# ¿ May 5, 2021 17:00 |
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WhyteRyce posted:at the idea of someone hiring Jason Kidd in TYOOL 2021 periodically i forget what a piece of poo poo that guy is https://twitter.com/lil_buts/status/1389970899911118850
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# ¿ May 5, 2021 18:25 |
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GordonComstock posted:You didn't list what song you used, which is like 25% of why I lurk this thread. Googling the lyrics has been a nightmare, what is it? Aaron Collins, "Little Bit Of Lovin". I'm trying not to use songs licensed by youtube to avoid their copyright claims.
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# ¿ May 5, 2021 19:36 |
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it's not just kanter, they have continually brought on other awful defensive players like carmelo and hood, and brought on "stoppers" like harkless and cov who aren't going to fix the defense in any meaningful way.
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# ¿ May 6, 2021 14:16 |
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Lockback posted:Trying to bounce the ball off the rim and into someone's hands is real hard. Reminds me of this classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quB6qp_IQuQ
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# ¿ May 7, 2021 00:21 |
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Metapod posted:Rebounding is a fundamental skill and it's always been weird how people decided to degrade it the moment russ started getting triple doubles if i can put on my analyst hat for a moment, what matters is not whether a player gets a rebound, but whether a team gets a rebound. on defensive rebounds, the player getting the rebound is adding only small marginal value, because if he didn't get it, there are 2 or 3 teammates in good position to get it. that is not the case on offensive rebounds, where there is likely only one offensive player in position to get the rebound, and the marginal value is high. we can adjust for all this. westbrook has always been an excellent offensive rebounder, and until the last couple of seasons, his impact on his team's offensive rebounding has been very high (over the last two seasons, his impact has been slightly better than average, which is still excellent for a guard). on the defensive end, his impact is less because the marginal value of any player's rebounds is smaller. the impact of westbrook's defensive rebounds has been slightly better than average in every season over his career, which again is decent for a guard, but not spectacular. no one i think would disagree with any of this. he is a good to great rebounder. the degrading you mention is not of his ability, which is unquestionable, but the naked cynicism of his stat padding in areas that don't translate into wins and avoidance of things that do translate into wins, like defense and shooting.
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# ¿ May 7, 2021 20:14 |
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While I wasn't paying attention, Kelly Olynyk seems to be balling the gently caress out. I wasn't expecting that.
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# ¿ May 8, 2021 15:29 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:The mid to late 90s Jazz had incredible offensive efficiency, their main thing was the Stockton Malone PNR, right? Were other teams not running pnr all the time back then, or were they just incredibly good at it? Jazz were known for pick and roll because nobody else did it, but if you watch those games you'll see maybe ten ball screens in one game (mostly used tactically in the 4th quarter or high leverage situations), compare to today where every team uses 50 ball screens. I think there was more DHO back in the day, but don't quote me on that.
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# ¿ May 9, 2021 02:41 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/1391394061790105602 I am very bad at knowing basketball things, I completely forgot Hood ended up on the Raptors.
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# ¿ May 9, 2021 15:15 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:Do you have any idea when the PNR became The play? Is it a development that comes after illegal defense and hand check rules? Was the Suns high pnr with the big setting the high screen what made it the thing, or was that just a smartification of already existing pnrs? In my head the answer is Steve Nash + D'Antoni, so 2005-ish. It wasn't just that, I believe the move to make PNR dominant was having a super mobile screen setter like Stoudemire, Diaw, Marion. But now I'm thinking Nash was already using ball screens in Dallas with Dirk, but I can't remember how frequently that happened. So maybe the answer is just Nash + coaches who let him do his thing. A related development is early offense drag screens, which I think it's just D'Antoni. I think he brought that from his time in Europe,I don't remember this being a thing before the Suns started doing it. Not really a play call, just an offensive philosophy that asked for possessions to start with on-ball action rather than the more common at the time off-ball action.
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# ¿ May 10, 2021 11:56 |
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The #1 thing about Steve Nash is that he never picked up his dribble. If you keep dribbling long enough you're going to use a screen whether you called for it or not. I wonder if the explosion of ball screens was simply a byproduct of Nash's restless dribble probing.
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# ¿ May 10, 2021 12:06 |
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anakha posted:IIRC, the Nash-Dirk two-man game was mainly either pick-and-pop or Dirk moving to the post to attack a mismatch in case of a switch. He wasn't really diving much into the lane even then. right, but from a modern perspective the difference between current pick and roll based offense and what came before is the on-ball use of a ball screen, as opposed to actions from off-ball screens. i just watched some possessions from a DAL/SAC playoff game in 2004, and there were a lot of ball screens from both teams, both called and uncalled. granted these offenses were probably the most innovative and atypical of the day, but it seems like the rise of PNR was more gradual and widespread than i figured.
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# ¿ May 10, 2021 13:13 |
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tanglewood1420 posted:Game has changed a heck of a lot in 25 years. drat right. i challenge anyone to try to sit through a random game from back then. it feels like every possession ends in a double teamed post up. and they were the watchable offense of the day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5eDZiZoIPs
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# ¿ May 10, 2021 13:47 |
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WhyteRyce posted:I still laugh that John Starks shot 34% from 3 for his career and was considered one of the premier 3pt shooters of his era A long time ago I was sent to try to encourage a coach to shoot more threes. He said, but we don't have any shooters. By which he meant shooters like Ray Allen or Reggie Miller. I said coach those are elite shooters, once in a generation, we got plenty of normal shooters. He said those guys can get better shots inside. He literally did not see the value in an average shooter. This coach by the way, was a forward thinking innovator. He eventually did end up shooting more threes, probably more because of threats from the owner and gm than anything I said.
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# ¿ May 12, 2021 17:34 |
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kingcobweb posted:I remembered Horncek being an elite three point shooter- I looked him up and his percentages were even better than I remembered, but he shot less than three a game in Utah. Baffling. It's similar to recent spurs teams where everybody has a super high accuracy because they only shoot when they are wide open.
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# ¿ May 12, 2021 17:38 |
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I was once asked a long time ago to come up with a bunch of bullshit statistical milestones to include as bonuses in a contract that looked achievable but really weren't. The only one I remember was FT% / FG% > 1.7, but they were all that dumb. The player's agent was fine with these, but the league would not let us use these stats for bonuses because they don't like fun. I can't remember what I'm responding to, but I already typed all that out.
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# ¿ May 16, 2021 19:27 |
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Hand Knit posted:What's the motivation for coming up with stuff like that? A team wants to offer bonuses to a player that they'll never have to pay out, but wants the player (or the agent) to think they have a good chance at getting the bonus. This was a free agent.
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# ¿ May 16, 2021 19:48 |
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MourningView posted:seems good they didn't let you do this They do, teams are just restricted from using stats that are too weird. On the other side, teams get pitches from agents that are full of the most hilarious cherry picked stats to make their client look good. Somewhere out there is a stats guy who has to find numbers that make Tony Wroten seem like a free agency steal.
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# ¿ May 16, 2021 20:05 |
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summer league dates still not nailed down, but looks to be mid august.
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 15:15 |
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Spacebump posted:https://twitter.com/CallieCaplan/status/1394746036170764289 lol
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 23:00 |
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jordan poole becoming playable was a development i was not expecting. he had one of the worst rookie seasons i've ever seen.
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# ¿ May 20, 2021 13:45 |
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I disapprove of this lame rear end corporate synergy stunt
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# ¿ May 24, 2021 17:36 |
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Spacebump posted:https://twitter.com/msinger/status/1397059673350569989 https://mobile.twitter.com/B_Skip1717/status/1397059689758695425
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# ¿ May 25, 2021 12:08 |
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If James Harden is the best James Harden, and Doncic is the 2nd best James Harden, who is the 3rd best? Is it Mason Jones? There should be more James Hardens.
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# ¿ May 26, 2021 03:08 |
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Phoenix paying Chris Paul 40 million for the right to lose in the first round this year and next is extremely funny to me.
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# ¿ May 28, 2021 13:53 |
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Jae Crowder was pretty BACK this season.
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# ¿ May 29, 2021 19:19 |
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That was the draft with a bunch of tiny pgs considered for the 2nd round, there was waters and Edwards and also Ponds and some other guy I'm forgetting. I can't remember why these guys had hype that year but it wasn't just Boston that were into these guys.
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# ¿ May 30, 2021 10:14 |
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Ban all fans, allow only disinterested observers like yours truly into arenas.
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# ¿ May 31, 2021 03:37 |
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mike zerren can't catch a break. otoh gently caress yes a new coach gm
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2021 15:41 |
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Just sitting around, remembering this from one year ago today. https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1267945114955141126
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2021 23:35 |
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Jackson Polack posted:
This makes sense as a paragraph.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2021 14:28 |
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MourningView posted:Also I would guess offensive rebound rate on free throws is worse than almost any other shot because they purposefully give the defense an advantage and put them closer to the basket and in position to box out. I think OR% on missed FTA is around 12%, but this is hugely dependant on situation, much more than any other kind of rebounding circumstance. The majority of missed FTA are uncontested by the shooting team. A handful of players consistently make a real effort for the rebound (eg Ariza was very good at this). And a small number of teams will tactically contest the rebound when they have a personnel advantage. It's difficult to know what the expected OR% would be in each of these situations because the number of times it happens during the season is small. But yeah it has to be lower at least than a team's OR% in the halfcourt.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2021 02:16 |
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One thing we can all agree on is that Mobile View is the worst thing ever.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2021 04:01 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 07:37 |
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morestuff posted:I think you're going to have a hard time finding highlight reels that show people bricking shots, OP ahem.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2021 16:15 |