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I live in Vermont and literally nothing has happened here and nothing has changed. I don't think anybody even noticed there's a gas shortage come get our gas, I guess is what I'm saying
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Mulaney Power Move posted:i watched a clip on foxnews and they implied the government was lying about there not being a gas shortage and used stations running out of gas due to panic buying as an example but didn't mention it was because of panic buying. then they had the governor of arkansas on and he was all like "see we need more pipelines and less regulation but biden doesnt love america enough" and that's why people are filling up garbage bags with gas. Chuds on Facebook are already claiming the pipe hacking was an inside job
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Christ people are so loving stupid. Last night there were only a few stations near me that were out of gas. Fired up GasBuddy this morning and every loving station within like 10 miles of me is out of gas. Over 10 goddamn hours after it was announced that the pipeline is going to get back up and running 
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poverty goat posted:I'm in VA and I have gas Take a beano.
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You wouldn't have this problem if you had a horse buddy. I'm kinda half wishing that the repair crew fucks up and puts the pipeline out of commission permanently, it'll be a glorious victory in the war on cars
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May 13, 2021 13:40
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Really it's pretty hosed up the supply of something that the country relies on as much as gasoline is so incredibly fragile... Like how many tax dollars did this company pocket to build a pipeline but not even put any backup systems in place?
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Wait till you hear about the electrical infrastructure or all the bridges lmao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljwUlY9WW1I Type some description here as elements, maybe type about your projects a little bit. I have nothing to
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I work for a giant company that makes really basic, important things, and last Monday (literally my first day after converting from a contractor) the entire international operation shut down & went into a tailspin because of a hack. They're blowing through ungodly amounts of money applying workarounds and hiring new staff to get things back running and I'm just sitting here, confused, waiting for my severance letter once everything calms down enough for them to refocus on reducing expenses and leaning departments to compensate for the financial hit they took patching holes in the boat. Now I can't even get gas (because of ANOTHER hack) so that I can kill myself by driving my car into an internet café (I assume these are where hackers live). Don't let cyberpunk enthusiasts tell you the dystopia will be stylish and cool. It's mainly just a crappier version of the 90s where you you lose your job because a janitor in Brussels was a domain admin for some reason and a guy at the bar traded him wine for his login credentials.
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May 13, 2021 14:23
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Yaldabaoth posted:Reality is getting way too similar to cyberpunk. all of the cyber, none of the punk Bad Purchase posted:Solution: keep your critical infrastructure equipment off any network that is connected to the internet. Their pipe goes from houston to NY and has control points all the way along that need to connect to a central control system. What are they gonna do, run an ethernet cable for their private LAN? Yes, A whole shitload of important companies have terrible network security that they absolutely need to fix. But it isn't as easy as pulling the cable that connects WOPR to the internet.
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May 13, 2021 14:33
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Klyith posted:all of the cyber, none of the punk This is exactly how pipelines worked before the internet being everywhere, so..... yes?
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Klyith posted:all of the cyber, none of the punk They could grab some morse code experts and hit the pipeline with hammers, creating a relay. How's that for an airgap?
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May 13, 2021 14:49
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you can still smoke when you're hoarding gas right 
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I remember the great Texas gas "shortage" or 2017. I think the internet has a way of really exacerbating this, because it can cause rushes that aren't necessary.
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May 13, 2021 15:11
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Colonel Cancer posted:Wait till you hear about the electrical infrastructure or all the bridges lmao https://twitter.com/KATVAlex/status/1392540161058168837?s=20 There were some people saying "make sure you buy gas" during the shortage and I'm in Texas where there's no shortage whatsoever.
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Luxrage posted:https://twitter.com/KATVAlex/status/1392540161058168837?s=20 thats kind of concerning i guess but not as concerning as THE CLOWN IN THE WHITE HOUSE trying to pass DEBT to my CHILDREN and GRANCHILDREN to pay to fix it. My GRANDCHILDREN
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May 13, 2021 15:24
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The fact that it's a hummer gives it an even stronger "Death of the American Dream" vibe.
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May 13, 2021 15:27
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Much of the fragility is that gas distributors aren't in the business of delivering extra gas so any small demand bump is gonna empty out stations when their last mile delivery can't cope. I'd probably blame this as much on the labor shortage because truck drivers are getting pretty scarce but I don't have visibility into any/every gas delivery network around. The preppers of all people probably have the right idea to fix this. You should probably own a couple weeks to a months worth of gas which may include several jerry cans depending how much you use. This is very money intensive and opens up a whole new can of worms for the financially vulnerable filling up with just enough gas to get then to their next pay check. Disasters happen with or without computers. Personal and social support networks need to be able to deal with nearly any technology just stopping for a few days.
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May 13, 2021 15:29
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Klyith posted:Their pipe goes from houston to NY and has control points all the way along that need to connect to a central control system. What are they gonna do, run an ethernet cable for their private LAN? Yes, exactly, you've got it.
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zedprime posted:Much of the fragility is that gas distributors aren't in the business of delivering extra gas so any small demand bump is gonna empty out stations when their last mile delivery can't cope. I'd probably blame this as much on the labor shortage because truck drivers are getting pretty scarce but I don't have visibility into any/every gas delivery network around. Hint: The preppers never have it right. If everyone followed the old maxim from driver's ed about how you should fill your tank when it gets to a quarter-full, virtually everyone would have more than enough gas to last them through any of these short-term shocks.
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Luxrage posted:https://twitter.com/KATVAlex/status/1392540161058168837?s=20 Ummm I hate to tell you this but that is not a crack. Trust me I've seen a lot of cracks in my life. It's completely separated.
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LanceHunter posted:Hint: The preppers never have it right. I don't personally own jerry cans of gas because I definitely don't need that much gas. It's an option that should be exercised for people who do.
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How much do you want to bet that there’s a non-insignificant number of assholes hoarding gas in unsafe containers that refused the COVID vaccine for being “dangerous.” Also, just lol at having to drive every day. Live in a city like a real person.
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May 13, 2021 16:15
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The solution is to ban computers from the pipeline. All of it will now be controlled by mentats absolutely whacked out of their minds on K2 spice.
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May 13, 2021 16:23
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two funny things - the hack didn't shut down the pipeline per se, it just prevented them from billing people also they ended up paying $5m ransom to the hackers, so i'm sure they learned their lesson and this won't keep happening
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May 13, 2021 16:32
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Biological pipeline that's just a miles long sphincter of an obese mentat
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So apparently these idiots paid 5 million dollars to the hax0rs which guarantees plenty of follow up attacks https://twitter.com/WilliamTurton/status/1392847175693049865
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blasting killin in the name of turning it up when he starts going "gently caress you I won't do what you tell me" while i hoard all the gas in leak free glades scented trash bags
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Tato posted:The solution is to ban computers from the pipeline. All of it will now be controlled by mentats absolutely whacked out of their minds on K2 spice. detroit shamans ingesting petroleum to create awareness spectrum narcotics for gasoline orgies.
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Supreme Allah posted:So apparently these idiots paid 5 million dollars to the hax0rs which guarantees plenty of follow up attacks i thought the petroleum industry was supposed to be tough, merciless even. i mean if you own an oil pipeline you should be able to hire a hit squad to crucify some greasy eastern european hackers.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:i thought the petroleum industry was supposed to be tough, merciless even. i mean if you own an oil pipeline you should be able to hire a hit squad to crucify some greasy eastern european hackers.
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Koch Brothers announce new partnership with Gazprom in an unrelated story several russian neckbeards have gone missing
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While you all partied in your drivers-ed I studied the 5k
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Supreme Allah posted:So apparently these idiots paid 5 million dollars to the hax0rs which guarantees plenty of follow up attacks I know bitcoin is supposed to be "anonymous" but isn't it actually ridiculously easy to track and they'll probably find the people responsible?
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Bitcoin is very easy to track if you don’t take precautions and have a safe and relatively anonymous way to convert it into actual currency. While very large amounts could be a problem it’s probably not super hard to re-anonymize a few million for a moderate cut. Criminal hacker groups have very good opsec or they wouldn’t last long. There’s a great episode of I don’t speak German where they talk about tracking nazis via Bitcoin because their opsec sucks.
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:I know bitcoin is supposed to be "anonymous" but isn't it actually ridiculously easy to track and they'll probably find the people responsible? Im sure they have a pretty good idea of whose responsible but you cant do much if they're sitting in a non extradition country
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Update - was able to get gas. Crisis is winding down. Currently considering learning how to hack servers in a country with no extradition treaty with the US and demand bitcoin ransoms in poultry farms or something benign... Seems like easy money.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Bitcoin is very easy to track if you don’t take precautions and have a safe and relatively anonymous way to convert it into actual currency. While very large amounts could be a problem it’s probably not super hard to re-anonymize a few million for a moderate cut. Criminal hacker groups have very good opsec or they wouldn’t last long. Touching bitcoin at all is poor opsec, which is why all the criminal groups use Monero.
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