Battlefield 2042: Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes

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Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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I'm fine with them not including 2142. I understand the technical difficulties, they have more important things to do at the moment, etc. etc. Also as a 2142 fan I'm used to disappointment.

So now I'm just hoping that if/when (probably more on the "if" side) they do 2142 in the portal they give it a proper cinematic intro. Something like soldiers of different eras creeping through the dark and fog, hearing various futuristic sounds like some sort of horror movie before one of the walkers comes charging out.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 08:29

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 13:07

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Fart Car '97 posted:

By all accounts there was some house cleaning after BFV in terms of staff and it's been rumored that EA basically took the reins away from Dice Sweden for this round

Hope Mr. "I'm gonna randomly start scrambling with the game's entire balance despite literally no one complaining about TTK" isn't in charge anymore.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 14:34

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psyman posted:

Using licensed music is sacrilege for a Battlefield trailer, only remixes of the 1942 main theme are kosher. For the reveal and gameplay trailers they just grabbed the songs off an �epic music� youtube channel called 2WEI. It�s wasn�t even specially composed for the game!

They did at least edit in the BF sting to the song (and sound effects) which was better than nothing, but a proper return to an orchestral version (or a non-orchestral cover that's at least mainly based on the original and not just the sting added in) would be heartily appreciated.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 15:38

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RocketRaygun posted:

Boy do I want to drive a walker over nazis though

Seriously, would love a reveal trailer of PAC walkers just running rampage through BFV German soldiers.

Ideally backed up by their hover tanks and their hover scout-car/suicide machine (seriously if that thing was real so many soldiers would be hurt/killed driving it because it just looks like it punishes stupid drivers and anyone in a 3 kilometer radius)

Heck, have them staring down advancing Russian forces only for RUSSIANS FROM THE FUTURE! to suddenly start appearing.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 16:15

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Legit want them to add 2142 so they could add a Titan Mode to nearly every map.

Karkand Titan (admittedly that would require a BF2 mode). Heck, any of the maps in BF1 that got a zeppelin can now have TWO future-zeppelins!

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 16:34

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Mordja posted:

Since I've unlocked pretty much everything else for the other classes in BF1, I'm playing as sniper now but I hate sniping but then I started using that Russian lever-action, the trench version, and woah why did nobody tell me how good it is?

Russian Trench + Flares = BF1 Snypa Life. Like it almost doesn't even matter that you get free points for lighting an area up: you get to cast fireball in modern shooter.

Though generally I preferred to go Assault (with just about any loadout/primary) mixed with gas grenades: Assaults are the class least likely to require/want/need to look down sights anyways, who cares if you're wearing your gas mask at all times?

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 18:38

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Perestroika posted:

There is one weapon for assault where looking down the sights is fun and good: The double-barrel model 1900 with slugs. Beaning snipers from a hundred meters with that thing is just

This is true. And one of the few things that V did better than I was that it had a break action triple barrel shotgun where the third barrel was a rifle barrel that shot a railgun round.

Anything else with BF1's Assault is basically "Screw aiming: Shove gun down their throat"

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

4 was a garbage fire for months after launch before eventually turning it around, 1 was just thoroughly mediocre and not much of a battlefield game, and V was somehow much worse.

everything they're showing us so far makes it seem like they've finally remembered why anyone played battlefield to begin with, and they're leaning super hard into the good old days, which is huge, great, baller, and also cool. but please, please don't for one second forget that dice is dice and the chances of them meeting their promises on day one are less than zero, an opinion grounded in nearly a decade of evidence.

If they get within even visual distance of meeting most of their promises day 1 this game will be amazing. They're really shooting for the moon on this one.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 18:48

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eonwe posted:

a mode where everything is the same but if you have a sniper rifle it spawns a tank on you and then despawns the tank

a mode where snipers only do 1 damage on a body shot but the headshot multiplier does enough damage to kill someone

Recon/Marksmen are fine. It's the 40x scope scrubs.

Like, someone with a Russian Trench lever action does work in BF1 even at close range (especially if Flares are involved. Also K-bullets are great for interrupting tank repairs).

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 23:00

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Did they buff the ammo box vs the ammo bag in BF1? I know the baggie can't resupply grenades or gadgets but it's still solid for on the go use.

Switched to box and suddenly I'm getting 500+ points per box.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2021 02:55

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:

Forgot how much fun BF1 is! Even on just the vanilla game maps which I've played to death it's great. Something about the gunplay just feels way better than BFV, though I do prefer the V movement more, especially with crouch running which is great. Partner (thanks for the key jisjosh!) and I have been having a blast recently playing both BF4 and now BF1. We had a BF4 session today of just messing around with TOWs, jihad jeeps, EOD bots, and the bow that made me realize that BFV was drastically missing "fun gadgets and weapons".* BF1 at least had the horsies.

*Now that I think about it, BFV was just missing "fun".

Well BF1 didn't have someone in charge go "I'm gonna just gently caress with all the TTK poo poo because I really think everyone should be forced to play by Hardcore rules" without telling the community or even the other devs. BF1 also had SMGs that were worth respecting and weren't just full-auto Nerf shooters firing foam darts.

I suspect BFV's gunplay and balance being an utter mess is a good part of why 2024 is going full "EQUIP ANY WEAPON ON ANY ~~CLASS~~ SPECIALIST!"

BFV's movement was legitimately good though. Glad they're supposedly keeping that.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2021 12:32

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Orv posted:

I wouldn't object to like a 45% (or whatever number) self-repair on cool down and only engineer repairs while landed or something like that. Game-y but Battlefield isn't exactly a sim over here.

Yeah, the repairs should either do less or take more time. As least in BF1 when the planes fly off to repair they're out of the battle for a decent chunk of time.

I'd be happier if in 2042 the attack choppers are balanced so that while they're reasonably survivable if you've got a good pilot they're still easy to knock around enough that they have to spend a decent chunk of time licking their wounds.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2021 19:43

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I just love all the truly wonky guns in BF1. It was an age of experimentation and confusion in gun manufacturing so you get so many truly goofy weapons.

In what other game would an SMG that holds only 8+1 rounds be considered a reasonable (if not exactly good) weapon?

# ¿ Jul 25, 2021 01:40

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Insert name here posted:

One of the German MGs had a reload mechanic where if you reloaded above like, 10 rounds (below that your character would just pull the belt out the ejection side), he'd crank the handle on the drum belt and the amount of cranks depended on how much ammo you had expended. So if you used the 200-round version of the gun you could have a ~10s reload:
https://i.imgur.com/TuHqK1a.gifv

Isn't that the gun with the rare reload that sometimes it starts playing "Pop goes the weasel"?

Yup: has a good chance of happening if you reload at exactly 13 rounds in the magazine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLTzGVhPwGg

# ¿ Jul 25, 2021 11:36

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Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Some of the reload animations were genuinely insane in the level of detail and they must have had a ton of fun making them

https://youtu.be/YBSr3p6iffM

also sometimes just funny

BF1 had so many great and funky animations that we'll never see again unless :dice:

does a steampunk battlefield or something.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2021 16:03

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PittTheElder posted:

I want an unlock that lets me honk like a jeep.

The Magestic Spacewhale Horn in Planeside 2 was the best horn ever.

Or would have been if enemy players could hear your horns so they could hear the majestic Ginyu-Whale-Force arriving. :argh:

# ¿ Jul 26, 2021 21:02

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Stupid idea that would be awesome: Having some of the classic WWI/WWII weapons slip back from the Portal into actual 2042 gameplay. Once 1/V actually get added to the portal (which EA/ :dice:

are likely to hold off on since they're the newest games).

Would love to take on tomorrow's super-soldier with a beat up BAR.

Probably doable in the Portal itself but would be fun just playing standard 2042 with a Tommy Gun...or the Russian Lever Action.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 12:42

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Aces High posted:

I landed one of these yesterday on a Fighter and I just stood in astonishment for 10 seconds (and got killed but it was worth it) because I didn't even know it was possible to legit headshot pilots

It's possible! I've done it, but it's generally easier to shove a K-bullet through their engine when they're doing an attack run. Ironically the times I've headshotted pilots generally tend to be when I'm trying to K-bullet an engine :v:

Anyways, what's the modern Dicks-Chord for goon shenanigans? Primarily BF1 goons.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2021 19:48

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Tormented posted:

How is Battlefield V? How does it stack up to Battlefield 1 as I'm enjoying it without any DLC.

I know its coming free next week to Twitch Prime.

I think it's...better than it was after release? BFV is a game that released okay-ish, if full of broken promises, then got worse for a good while. Like, take the rad Operations mode in BF1 and make it...worse (the map auto-advances after every round regardless of how well the teams did).

Squad Revives were absolutely awesome though and I'm glad they're keeping that mechanic into 2042. Like the one thing the game straight up added to the series, with no downsides, was Squad Revives. Squad up and everyone in your group is your medi-buddy!

# ¿ Jul 30, 2021 19:52

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Kibayasu posted:

The plane campaign could have been the best one if it wasn�t for those controls.

I don't care what they were, just wish that they were the same as multiplayer. That's all I really want. Make them bound to the same keybinds so I could have used the plane campaign for practice.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2021 02:48

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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Propaganda Hour posted:

I think if you get bayonet charged you can't be revived in Battlefield One. The ultimate dishonor

Correct! It counts as a knife/melee kill so no revives for you.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2021 01:02

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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jisforjosh posted:

Gunplay is pretty drat solid near and TTK is almost exactly as it was at launch save for a few guns

Medics being given short-midrange weapons works IMO since they're supposed to be in the thick of it tossing smokes, medpacks, and reviving. BF1 felt off at times to be using a long ranged rifle that could 3 shot people at any range

I think medic range was a little too short in general...and the sensation wasn't helped by so many challenges have "Kill someone at long range" for medics and SMGs.

Philman posted:

The optics in bfv are also covered in dirt, annoyingly.

Nothing to do with your post but...I see from your avatar that you too are a man of class.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2021 02:32

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Live At Five! posted:

One of the reasons BF1 is better than BFV is AT rockets. One of my favorite moments of BF1 is nailing some poor fucker on B from D with an AT rocket. Felt real good.

Actually having to take a moment to set up did wonders balancing the rocket launcher. And as you said, sniping people with it was always gloriously hilarious.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2021 06:43

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FAUXTON posted:

You're thinking of BC2

BF2 ruled, but games have moved on since then

BC2 also ruled.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2021 23:33

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ScootsMcSkirt posted:

make all aircraft vulnerable to small arms fire, especially jets

Do this and make countermeasures not 100% guaranteed. Even if they're 99% effective if there's anti-air on the map I'll absolutely take the air-shooty weapon just to add my roll of the dice to everyone else telling the skygod to gently caress off.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2021 06:48

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I just remember in BF2 seeing videos of people who just did backflips over their airfield, lobbing their bombloads into the sky because they knew the right angles to hit to make bombs shower down onto busy areas. Like some hosed up combination of the Blue Angels mixed with an Artillery battery.

I also remember reports in 2142 of gunship pilots would test each other out at first but if both team's pilots were good enough they'd just basically declare a non-aggression pact and hunt ground targets and transports because a good pilot was just that much of a pain to shoot down.

On the other hand one of my favorite moments in BF2 that I still cherish was actually shooting down a BF2 jet as it came in low over an airfield while I was riding in some tank's MG passenger slot.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2021 07:15

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
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I'm really trying to think of words to describe the latest BF intro rendition. The best I can do is "Metal fatigue". It's samples of groaning, stressed out metal construction, like a bridge or crane, that's been used to make a song.

I mean "bad" also works. Can we have the BF3/4 farts back? Please?

# ¿ Sep 11, 2021 10:51

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jisforjosh posted:

Like others have said, IMO it works in context of a failing industrial building that helped put the world into the poo poo hole it is in now.

Oh I get that. I'll admit that was one of the first images that came to mind once I got over my ears bleeding. It's just...not a fun BF theme to listen to at all.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2021 21:33

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So this is what I'm getting from your reports:

-UI guy needs to try again (but won't so we're kinda stuck with it)
-Got enough rough edges it's obvious why it was put back in the oven for a bit longer
-It plays and guns shoot
-Recon dude's gadget is hella useful and will be ignored by 95% of the players who pick him as they hide in a corner to play 1337 Snipah
-Medic dudette's been understandably nerfed but the game mechanics make her current state not that great (but she's got the best lines)
-Slug Lyfe is back
-THE GRAPPLE MECHANIC IS DONE PERFECTLY AND I WILL CRY IF DICE TOUCHES MY PERFECT GRAPPLING BABY!

Is that more or less how people feel?

# ¿ Oct 6, 2021 20:26

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Symetrique posted:

https://i.imgur.com/jMiqF6A.mp4

I think this here has convinced me to buy/pre-order. Even though I can't fly worth poo poo in any BF game I just want to know these shenanigans are possible. Looks like it runs pretty smooth if you get on the right server, which likely means things will likely run pretty well later once the bugs are forcibly hammered out and there are more servers up.

I'll probably wait for another paycheck or two but this clip brings the Good BF Feels.

# ¿ Oct 7, 2021 06:25

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Symetrique posted:

Yeah, that was what happened in the bf3 alpha. They ended up removing some of the more extensive ground deformation because of it iirc.

Well that and I think even :dice:

didn't need to think too hard about what players digging actual, literal trenches would do to game balance. Because that's what we did with C4.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2021 19:29

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Dr. Fishopolis posted:

bf2042 is going to rule a year from now, shame it comes out next month

the biggest problem with BFV was "balance patches" out of nowhere with massive sweeping changes to TTK, then another one to revert it after backlash, then another one because it was too slow again, then another one because it was thursday, etc. if they can avoid doing that and just plug away at it like they did BF4, it'll be worth buying on sale.

I won't have time to be able to play 2042 until late December/January anyways due to work. So...at least by that point I'll know if it sucks or if it was okay but then gets a bad case of BFV Dev.

Seriously, those loving changes. It really sounded like some manager going "No, I know how this game should be played and you have to deal with my balance!" That, and the bug updates that seemed to add more bugs (invisible panzer divisions! Only visible in Hitler's mind!) killed my interest.

# ¿ Oct 11, 2021 19:43

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jisforjosh posted:

I'm not sure which is dumber for the future, C5 or RDX since C4 is mostly RDX already

When I played 2142 I didn't know RDX was actually a specific chemical, I just thought it meant "Remote Detonated Explosive".

Though why is having C5, C6, etc. silly? It's literally a codename since the military doesn't want to go around advertising what exactly is in their explosive cooking. "Composition N", C-4 is the fourth one, C-5 would be its replacement if the Pentagon replaced it with something more powerful/cheaper/stable.

# ¿ Nov 2, 2021 07:55

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 13:07

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So what's the immediate consensus compared to the Beta?

# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 10:19

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