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Lockback posted:Right now owners would make a lot more money on expansion instead. Which if Arod/Lore really wanted a team in Seattle would have seemed easier just to try to get that. But I'm not super confident in them staying either. Yeah, that's what I keep telling myself. There's no compelling reason for them to move the Timberwolves but I can't shake the feeling that the owners are up to something. Probably a complex from when Norm Green moved the North Stars and from Carl Pohlad's attempt to contract the Twins.
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Jul 21, 2021 20:03
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abelwingnut posted:vegas seems like an obvious place if seatle's out. hell, even if seattle's in the running, i can see the case for vegas over seattle. Of the places that don't have an NBA team and are at least an hour from a city that has one, Seattle is the 15th largest by the government Metropolitan Statical Area metric, and after that, San Diego is at 17, Tampa at 18, St. Louis at 20, Baltimore at 21, Las Vegas at 27. San Diego, Tampa, and Baltimore are way too close to existing franchises for that to fly, so Seattle and Las Vegas are really the best options for places that don't have a team nearby. After that, you're looking at cities in states that already have a team like Austin (29) or Pittsburgh (28) or Columbus (32) or cities in smaller states like Hartford (48) but by that point, you're at MSAs half the size of Las Vegas. From a sheer population perspective, it's incredible that Seattle doesn't have a team. Vegas is becoming increasingly weird, just because of how fast the population there has grown. Another decade and it'll look downright ridiculous.
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Jul 21, 2021 21:51
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Lockback posted:Vegas has a weird vibe of a lot of people from out-of-state and such. Seattle seems like such a huge #1 to me. Kansas City in particular seems logical, what with the Jayhawks just across the river. But I dunno how much intrastate rivalry there is and whether folks from St. Louis would buy in.
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Jul 21, 2021 22:19
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Dexo posted:But yeah most of my Lonzo I guess you'd call it upside potential belief comes from the fact that he's seemingly gotten better offensively every year. And he's had to like completely remake his shot. Any young player who's put in that much work I'll have some belief in being able to keep either addressing their weaknesses, or make their strengths better to cover said weaknesses. Yeah, his TS% progression is .444, .487, .517, .551 and his 3pt% progression is .305, .329, .375, .378 without a drop in his usage% (17.4, 16.9, 18.5, 20.5) or by taking less 3pt shots per game (5.7, 4.9, 6.3, 8.3) and he's only 23 years old. He's obviously not one of those players that can plug into just about any team and be successful, but that's solid progression and on the right team, there's no reason to think he won't continue to grow. Not that he has a star ceiling or anything, but I definitely think that the right team signing him at 20 mil isn't a mistake.
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Jul 22, 2021 14:36
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Lockback posted:It's worth money to me to not have to hunt, and being able to chromecast without jumping through hoops is also really important. Yeah, we made the decision to cancel our cable subscription a few years back when we realized the only thing we were using it for was Timberwolves games and it was costing us a smidge under $1,000 a year. I'd like to be able to pay to not have to deal with the bullshit too, but if my options are deal with bullshit or pay a grand a year because the NBA won't get with the times, bullshit it is.
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Jul 22, 2021 17:34
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Senator Drinksalot posted:No blackouts will never happen because they want you to buy their overpriced tickets and pay 30 dollars for cold popcorn I loving hate this the most. I'm a 3 hour drive each way from Target Center but still well within the blackout range. Even if I had the money to attend any game I wanted, I'd have to take off work early for literally any game not played on the weekend.
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Jul 22, 2021 18:01
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I'm definitely not voluntarily listening to Skip for that long to find out if he's accidentally stumbled into a good point or if he's just doing his usual thing, but the idea of Russ being a bad fit for the Lakers doesn't seem all that ridiculous on its face. Is the counterargument that LeBron would be able to shift roles enough that it could work?
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Jul 22, 2021 18:42
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hifi posted:shift from what to what though? lebrons spent his time with the lakers being a point forward, small ball center, normal slashing forward, 3 point chucker, etc Russ's whole game is predicated on being the primary facilitator, and I don't know how well that meshes with the facilitator aspects of LeBron's game. Maybe I've got a warped view of Russ, but it seems like you'd lose a big chunk of what makes LeBron so good to have everything flow through Russ. Or the reverse, if LeBron retains much of his facilitation, is Russ gonna be able to be as good being a secondary ball handler.
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Jul 22, 2021 19:11
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Dejan Bimble posted:"he can shoot the three if he has to" I know that they didn't mean it like this, but the way this was phrased struck me as funny, like every time he shoots one he's like "ok fine dad i'll shoot the 3 GET OFF MY BACK" like he's taking out the trash
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Jul 22, 2021 23:35
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Declan MacManus posted:the nba earns more money selling exclusive rights to the playoffs and finals to the mouse and turner than it would by selling equivalent units to individual consumers it could happen but it would never be with the NBA's own product. i can see a future where one of the major streaming services manages to secure what amounts to broadcast rights, if trends continue not gonna be much longer before there will be more houses with streaming services and no cable than the reverse
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Jul 22, 2021 23:56
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Lockback posted:an over representation of Timberwolves fans. it is our time to shine!
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Jul 24, 2021 03:39
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Porfiriato posted:I don't quite understand the metrics here, but it's baffling to me that they consider the single best Suns draft pick in recent years to be Cam Johnson at #11 with a 2.24 score. I mean, he's done well for them so far...but that's head and shoulders above the 1.43 they gave for taking Booker as a #13 pick. If I'm understanding, it's saying that of the players in the 2019 draft only Brandon Clark has had a better career than Cam Johnson and had not already come off the board when Cam was drafted. For the 2015 draft, when Booker was picked, Montrezl Harrell was still on the board, and by any advanced stat, Montrezl has had a much better career. It's worth pointing out that as far as advanced stats go, Richaun Holmes currently has a marginally better career than Booker. Now, anyone who watched basketball this year is gonna take Booker in a heartbeat over either of them, but it took Booker a long time to become an efficient scorer. Those first 2-3 seasons he was about at Andrew Wiggins level efficiency and had a bit higher usage rate, which is murder on advanced stats. Give it a couple years and he'll pass Montrezl I'm sure. It's an interesting approach to comparing drafts year over year, but it strikes me as something that needs full careers to make any kind of reasonable comparison.
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Jul 25, 2021 02:45
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MourningView posted:I'm not saying he had a good series (although he was the only guy on the team who could guard Trae) but it's also lovely for the other players and especially the coach to immediately chuck him under the bus after the game. He deserves to get made fun of by fans but your actual coworkers shouldn't be doing that poo poo publicly. Especially Doc who coached a terrible series and is just trying to distract from his own embarassing playoff history. It was lovely but at the same time, this all plays into the image of Simmons as a massive headcase who doesn't care about basketball. At a minimum, he should be aware of that perception and not play into it, which he's doing here by going radio silent. If things are so bad that he can't be bothered to return phone calls, he should tell his agent to request a trade, leak that to the media, and force the 76ers hand. Seems like he's trying to do the Dame thing and have it both ways.
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Jul 26, 2021 17:08
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Guess that's what I get for not reading to the end of the article. Certainly the impression I got from the start was that he's not communicating at all. Silly me.
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Jul 26, 2021 17:29
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Declan MacManus posted:that is certainly what the sixers insider who leaked the story to the journalist wants you to come away thinking, yes Which seems like a weird thing to leak if they are definitely going to trade him. If he's gone, who gives a poo poo, he's the Raptors or the Blazers or whoever's problem now.
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Jul 26, 2021 17:42
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That's really cool to see Royce White in there.
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Jul 27, 2021 00:19
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I'd forgotten how many good players there were in that draft aside from the top. 9 players with 50+ Win Shares. David West at 18, Boris Diaw at 21, Zaza Pachulia at 42, Kyle Korver at 52...
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Jul 27, 2021 20:10
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This draft feels exceptionally deep, but that might just be me buying into the hype. The top isn't as good as 2003 (duh) but of all the drafts I've watched closely, this one feels like it has the most potential for the prospects currently out of the top 10 or even the lottery to really end up being really, really good players. Obviously won't happen for most of them, but I'd bet we'll be sitting around in 10 years scratching our heads and wondering how we missed on a few guys.
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Jul 27, 2021 21:06
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morestuff posted:I think an overpay would be north of $15-16M range but I honestly don’t know what this market is going to be like.
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Calidus posted:Does anyone expect Emiid to actually last more than the next 3 years? The Nets and Lakers might actually have longer championships windows than the 76ers right now. If someone offered me a bet that Chris Paul will play his last NBA game before Embiid, I would not take it. I hope I'm wrong because I like Embiid but that he's still playing is a miracle of modern medical science.
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Spacebump posted:https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1420432018047971328 Kuzma to the Timberwolves is interesting, but I don't watch the Lakers much so I don't really have a sense for him as a player outside his stat sheet. On paper it looks like he can play the 4, which is where we have a huge hole (unless you think Jaden McDaniels takes a big step forward), and he's on the same contract length and is around the same age as KAT, and doesn't seem overpaid. I don't know who the Lakers would want that the Wolves would make available (assuming Rubio or maybe Beasley) but am I missing something about Kuzma that would make him a bad fit?
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Jul 28, 2021 20:40
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WhyteRyce posted:If Kyle Kuzma were halloween candy, what candy would he be those weird strawberry candies because no one will trade anything for him
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Jul 28, 2021 22:06
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Rick posted:MV and I should get a consulting fee if this happens. Interesting, thank you for the writeup!
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Jul 28, 2021 22:31
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Henchman of Santa posted:Isn't this the year where they kind of can't do anything they want around the village? He's probably bored as hell. Think of the posting he does right now when he's got access to everything money can buy. Now imagine the posting he would do if he were locked in a lovely room in the Olympic Village with loving nothing to do and nowhere to go.
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Jul 28, 2021 23:22
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MourningView posted:I will say it kinda seems like Chad Ford is throwing as much bullshit at the wall as possible to try to get retweets and drive Patreon subscriptions so maybe grain of salt on anything he tweets right now. He's changing his mock like every five minutes from what I can tell so maybe wait for Friday when he should have his final version up Don't read too much into it, he'll be updating his final mock through 2023 at least.
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Jul 28, 2021 23:55
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Jul 29, 2021 03:14
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I don't understand why the 76ers would want a pirate's hoard of draft picks and not win now players like what the Pacers allegedly offered. Are they basically viewing this year's run as an unexpected bonus and don't want to try to take an immediate run?
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Jul 29, 2021 16:52
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Lockback posted:Wasn't that just Brogdan + the Pacers pick? 76ers have said they don't want draft picks but an all-star player back. They might just not want Brogdan. I looked and you're right. For some reason, I remembered them offering Brogdan and Turner, but that's not the case.
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The Glumslinger posted:Its so they can flip those picks for a star to put next to Embiid This feels weird, in that if they can't get a star for Simmons directly, what are the odds that the picks they get will equal a star? Just feels like kicking the can down the road.
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The 3 team deal at least makes sense to me, I just still don't see how from a strictly 76ers perspective they have Simmons going out for picks and end up with an upgrade coming back in. Granted, my thinking assumes that they won't get that 4 pick haul that they're asking for. I could see them turning that into someone useful.
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Jul 29, 2021 17:17
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triple sulk posted:Thinking about the potential lovely returns that Ben's gonna get I'm legit betting it's close to the actual trade that Indiana offered, even if it's not actually the one they end up taking. Maybe with an extra 2nd rounder thrown in so it looks better on paper.
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Jul 29, 2021 17:49
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Paul Zuvella posted:Its probably easier to trade a hoard of draft picks for a star player than it is to trade Ben Simmons for a star player. Yeah I just don't see how they're getting that hoard back for him. They don't have any more hoarded first round picks and their own first rounders are gonna be high 20s for the foreseeable future, so it's not like they have much to make the pot all that much sweeter. triple sulk posted:What was their offer cause I don't remember seeing it Brogdon and a 1st round pick, presumably the 13th. I could maybe see a team tossing in a second protected 1st rounder to get the deal done.
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MourningView posted:This is really overestimating how much anyone cares about LSU basketball. If he starts giving football players money to sign with Alabama then they might notice I feel like the best way forward for Ben is that he takes his sailboat out one evening and it's found floating abandoned a week later. Then next month some NBA team holds a press conference to introduce their latest signing, a mysteriously mustachioed 6'11" Aussie man named Sen Bimmons, a basketball wunderkind they found hooping on the streets of Adelaide.
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Fate Accomplice posted:wow Dame's a goon https://twitter.com/bosnianbeast27/status/1420824445212635154?s=19
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Doltos posted:Good things need to stop happening for the Lakers Cap space is tight but I think he would have gotten a better deal this year than next, given everyone who's gonna be looking to get paid next year.
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Jul 29, 2021 22:15
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verbal enema posted:LeBon and Westbrook would own maybe probably I hate the Lakers but I desperately want to see how that will work out in games. Like, they're both good enough that I'm sure they'd figure it out but there's a real chance that it goes up in flames and I am so here for that.
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Jul 29, 2021 22:19
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Dexo posted:Uh are we gonna get the crazy draft that we've only been teased with the past few years. The top 4 feels really boring, but the rest of the lottery has the potential to be stupidly hilarious.
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Montrezl Harrell being second in his draft class behind KAT in both Win Shares and VORP (and ahead of KAT in WS/48 on way less minutes) is still hilarious to me. Like, he's the second best guy in his class (statistically) and this is what he's reduced to.
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1420859675445276681 Wouldn't surprise me if it was something of the reverse. They're keeping the Kings in the picture in case the Russ deal falls through.
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