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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal


American Horror Story is an anthology series created by Ryan Murphy. Each season is a self-contained storyline an entry in an increasingly scattershot and arbitrary canon, a pastiche of forms and genres found in western-style horror.

American Horror Story: Double Feature is so named because it’s going to have two separate storylines, intertwined to a degree that’s honestly not very clear right now. The first part, “Red Tide”, concerns a writer moving his family to a coastal town, hoping to find some creative inspiration in the various tippling weirdos, beach corpses, and psychotic dentists that dwell there, or at least find his daughter a better violin tutor. The second part will involve aliens, somehow. I have a hunch they'll take drugs and make out with mermaids, I don't know what gave me that impression.

Also in the mix this year is the spinoff even more anthologized streaming series American Horror Stories, which just completed its release on Hulu and made the extra wait since September a little easier.

AHS: Double Feature will premiere on August 25. As usual, the title of the show has changed so be sure to remake your season passes.

Previous on American Horror Story:

1984



Apocalypse



Cult



Roanoke



Hotel



Freak Show



Coven



Asylum



Murderhouse

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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Strapping in for another beautiful trainwreck.

What's the cast list like? Do we get Lily Rabe this year?

Mirotic
Mar 8, 2013




sebzilla posted:

Strapping in for another beautiful trainwreck.

What's the cast list like? Do we get Lily Rabe this year?

Her and Evan Peters AND Frances Conroy AND Sarah Paulson.

Also included: Matt Bomer, Denis O'Hare, Angelica Ross, Adina Porter, John Carroll Lynch, Billie Lourd, and drag queen Chad Michaels. Who does a mean Cher impression.

Also also included, Leslie Grossman and Macaulay Culkin (yes, that one).

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Mirotic posted:

Her and Evan Peters AND Frances Conroy AND Sarah Paulson.

Also included: Matt Bomer, Denis O'Hare, Angelica Ross, Adina Porter, John Carroll Lynch, Billie Lourd, and drag queen Chad Michaels. Who does a mean Cher impression.

Also also included, Leslie Grossman and Macaulay Culkin (yes, that one).

Hot drat, ok then.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

I’m ready. I missed last season, Apocalypse. Was it any good/worth catching up on?

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
It was worth watching, I don't know if it'll tie in with this season but it streamlined some things.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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They're doing American Horro Stories, a bunch of stand alone episodes set in the AHS universe.

The current episode features a middle aged woman who becomes obsessed with making a video game about the Murder House in order to reconnect with her teenage son who really likes the AHS show. It might be the worst piece of television ever made. That's not hyperbole. I've never seen something this nonsensical since Things. This goes up there with the third episode of Dracula.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Last Chance posted:

I’m ready. I missed last season, Apocalypse. Was it any good/worth catching up on?

You've missed two seasons I think.

Apocalypse I liked more than 1984, but they were both definitely on the good side.

If you don't know anything about Apocalypse, try to go in unspoiled. It's a genuinely different experience if you have no idea what the plot is, vs. having seen even a lick of marketing for the season.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Oh oops, I meant I hadn’t seen 1984, I saw Apocalypse. Which was good! I remember liking it.

Is 1984 good enough for me to overlook the “extremely 80s” thing I assume they do throughout? I get a little tired of 80s nostalgia and it may be one of the reasons I wasn’t too interested in checking it out initially.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Last Chance posted:

Oh oops, I meant I hadn’t seen 1984, I saw Apocalypse. Which was good! I remember liking it.

Is 1984 good enough for me to overlook the “extremely 80s” thing I assume they do throughout? I get a little tired of 80s nostalgia and it may be one of the reasons I wasn’t too interested in checking it out initially.

Of the good seasons, it's the least good IMO -- I found it too similar to Murder House. People in the thread really loved it though.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Just saw AHS Feral and goddamn, what a stupid loving episode. Definitely regret starting it over halfway cause I was only paying half-attention. The only nice thing I have to say about it were some of the monsters would've been cool enemy designs in a Bloodbourne videogame.

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

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Khanstant posted:

Just saw AHS Feral and goddamn, what a stupid loving episode. Definitely regret starting it over halfway cause I was only paying half-attention. The only nice thing I have to say about it were some of the monsters would've been cool enemy designs in a Bloodbourne videogame.

counter point: cody fern as a rough and tough park ranger made the episode worth it.

killer crane fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Aug 20, 2021

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Haha he was one of the reasons I hated it, that dude acts fuckin weird. + lol that the park rangers get a special confidential exposition file folder.

Doltos posted:

The current episode features a middle aged woman who becomes obsessed with making a video game about the Murder House in order to reconnect with her teenage son who really likes the AHS show. It might be the worst piece of television ever made. That's not hyperbole. I've never seen something this nonsensical since Things. This goes up there with the third episode of Dracula.

Honestly, I think I would've liked it if not for the last scene. I mean, a lot of very stupid things going on, and that kid was a little shithead, but I've always wanted someone to just burn the place down. But with that final scene... I have no clue which parts of it happened and which are videogame and if all the poo poo with the kid and mom was also in the videogame? And somehow whichever red ball ghost was is now in the mom's house, this a "Ring" thing they're adding in? Are the ghosts going to multiply when the game is released?

I laughed when the subtitles said some Noah Cyrus song played and then I realized off-brand Miley was actually just her sister.

Big Dick Cheney
Mar 30, 2007
I thought the last episode was pretty good until the twist. Murder house is finally gone, lovers reunited, etc. It's like Ryan Murphy realized that it was a good episode and decided that he needed to make it bad to fit in with the rest of the series. It was kind of hilarious

Zombie Squared
Feb 16, 2007



That latest episode was a great episode until the twist. And not the clown of the same name. Like, it would have lost nothing with cutting all the video game stuff.

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

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They need to be done with murder house. This episode was dog poo poo partly because it's just another murder house story. Drivein and No homo Christmas were the best episodes because they're not just more of the same.

Zombie Squared
Feb 16, 2007



killer crane posted:

They need to be done with murder house. This episode was dog poo poo partly because it's just another murder house story. Drivein and No homo Christmas were the best episodes because they're not just more of the same.

I cannot believe there are not more than two murderous Santas in the AHS au.

OldMemes
Sep 5, 2011

I have to go now. My planet needs me.
Disney have decided to shut down the Fox channel in the UK and move this and The Walking Dead to DIsney Plus, so that's annoying. I don't really want another subscription service, so I guess I'll wait till the season is done, then get Plus to binge it.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Khanstant posted:

Honestly, I think I would've liked it if not for the last scene. I mean, a lot of very stupid things going on, and that kid was a little shithead, but I've always wanted someone to just burn the place down. But with that final scene... I have no clue which parts of it happened and which are videogame and if all the poo poo with the kid and mom was also in the videogame? And somehow whichever red ball ghost was is now in the mom's house, this a "Ring" thing they're adding in? Are the ghosts going to multiply when the game is released?

Here's a list of problems with the episode:


1. The video game poo poo was cringy and whoever wrote it channeled those early Devry University ads. The phrase 'tighten up the controls' was used twice. They had no money to spend on graphics for the game so they just shot video and said that was the games graphics which also just led to the stupid reveal at the end. No one, not even moms, would believe that a mom would make a video game in her garage on a whim to connect with her child.
2. The ghosts kept referring to other ghosts that were part of the house but obviously weren't going to show up because they couldn't get any of the actors back.
3. None of the mom's motivations or actions made sense. She made a video game without watching the show but the game had enough in it to show that she watched the show. She then watched the show and then went to the house which implies that the house and the show exist in the same universe somehow, but if that was true then she wouldn't want to go into the house? I don't know!!
4. The actors are either working for rate or are the children of famous people. Cindy Crawford's kid, Michael Jackson's kid, they all suck to the point of absurdity.
5. Cindy Crawford's kid is somehow the bully of the house and no other ghosts can stand up to her til the end?
6. It turns out it was all a video game.
7. But the red ball at the end implies that the house is haunted now by... what?


Also everything about the Rubber Girl creeps me out on a personal level. She's supposed to be 17/18 in the show and the first episode had her dads asking her if she was the sub or dom in her fantasies. They keep somehow working her into a BDSM outfit and then they got Cindy Crawford's kid into the BDSM outfit. poo poo's sketchy.

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

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Doltos posted:


Also everything about the Rubber Girl creeps me out on a personal level. She's supposed to be 17/18 in the show and the first episode had her dads asking her if she was the sub or dom in her fantasies. They keep somehow working her into a BDSM outfit and then they got Cindy Crawford's kid into the BDSM outfit. poo poo's sketchy.

I mean, tate was supposed to be a highschool kid, and he regularly wears the rubber suit, and does very violent sexual acts.

I think my feelings on the episode are changing, I like that the explicitly say people get stuck in the house in life because they are already dissatisfied with life, and the house just draws in the unhappy, and unfulfilled. also i now believe it was an inception ending, where they're not in the real world, but in an episode of ahs

killer crane fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Aug 21, 2021

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Doltos posted:

Here's a list of problems with the episode:

Yea all of this is spot on, this episode was a pile of hot poo poo. Add in some untalented writers trying to do multi-twist meta narrative about their own show with layers within layers and an ambiguous ending that is more eye roll inducing than entertaining

killer crane posted:

I think my feelings on the episode are changing, I like that the explicitly say people get stuck in the house in life because they are already dissatisfied with life, and the house just draws in the unhappy, and unfulfilled.

My issue with this is it comes off as frustrated writers explaining the themes of the story that should just be evident in the story itself. It would be cool to hear in a review/analysis and less cool for them to just tell you what their show from 10 years ago meant

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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killer crane posted:

I mean, tate was supposed to be a highschool kid, and he regularly wears the rubber suit, and does very violent sexual acts.

Yeah you're right that was creepy too. I feel like it could have been done a bit better. I assume the message behind it is teenage angst and sexual frustration but man it comes off just weird instead of weird fun which I guess there's a thin line.

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

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Guy A. Person posted:

My issue with this is it comes off as frustrated writers explaining the themes of the story that should just be evident in the story itself. It would be cool to hear in a review/analysis and less cool for them to just tell you what their show from 10 years ago meant

Maybe it's a meta comment on why viewers keep coming back to the show.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Doltos posted:

Also everything about the Rubber Girl creeps me out on a personal level. She's supposed to be 17/18 in the show and the first episode had her dads asking her if she was the sub or dom in her fantasies. They keep somehow working her into a BDSM outfit and then they got Cindy Crawford's kid into the BDSM outfit. poo poo's sketchy.

It seemed fine to me. She's a murderous teenage girl, just like the first season's murderous teenage boy. The murderous teenage boy also kept getting into the bdsm outfit. Female serial killers are rare, but it is a thing and they were probably hosed up teenagers at one point.

As for her parents, it didn't seem unnatural to me that they would want to know if the harmful porn she was into led her into associating herself as a sub or a dom. If she ever acts out her fantasies then being a sub into what she is into would be dangerous. She would get hurt. Especially if she starts seeking out older creeps while she's still a teenager. What parent wouldn't be worried about that? Yeah it would be an awkward thing to try to talk about, and it was.

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
I hated the video game episode. It was one of the worst episodes of anything I can remember ever watching.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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RenegadeStyle1 posted:

I hated the video game episode. It was one of the worst episodes of anything I can remember ever watching.

It was flat out terrible. By the time I got to the end I had no idea what, if anything, was 'real' in the episode. And not in a cool twist way or "that's a thinker" way, there were just no handholds to grab onto.

Like both the tv show and the murder house were real. AHS was shows about real haunted houses and stuff. The way the mom dealt with psych dad, it seems like both Ben Harmon and actor Dylan McDermott exist in her reality, and they are basically twins -- she thought the ghost of Ben Harmon was actually actor Dylan McDermott just hanging out at the house on Halloween messing with people. Or maybe that was part of the game and she never went to the house in person at all.

She made a videogame about herself making a videogame. Terrible.

SirBukkake
Aug 24, 2006
Idk some black dude
I honestly thought the plot would be the mom going to the "real" Muderhouse but it's actually just a regular home. However, her obsession makes her insane and ultimately kills her son/husband in said house; starting a "real life" Murderhouse... but I'm from the K.I.S.S. School of storytelling

The part I really hate was Seriously? The teenage rubber girl did all of this killing and nonsense for her ghost girlfriend; she's madly in love with her right? But when the big decision is made for them to die together, rubber girl is all "....nah it's cool I kinda want to live". Then coming back 3 year's later, and all of a sudden her ghost friend is there and is not mad at was obviously a gesture of betrayal? I guess that's the kind of lovely characterization that can only be from a Video Game... or a half assed AHS episode.

I would've loved if the mom told Ben "I loved you in the latest Law and Order", and him responding "...they still make that show?". Hire me, Ryan.

DocBubonic
Mar 11, 2003

Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis
Maybe its me, but naming the town the family moves into "Providencetown" seems like a reference to Lovecraft. Being that its in New England and along the ocean, I guess it can't help reminding me of Lovecraft's stuff.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

2 episodes in and the season has promise. Definitely good start!

Way better than Stories

Also great hearing deftomes and massive attack

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killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

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I can't wait for notStephen King to eat his newborn.

nunsexmonkrock
Apr 13, 2008
These episodes were great. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed the first couple eps this much. Though it could use a little less violin.

Edit:

Also I didn't see anyone post these AM radio style episodes leading up to the show.

Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3

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Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
drat those first two episodes were good as hell

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Sarah Paulson as Rickety Cricket is the finest casting Ryan Murphy has ever done

Mirotic
Mar 8, 2013




No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:

drat those first two episodes were good as hell

:same:

Loving the washed-out tones being used in the exteriors and in Harry/Doris/Alma's house. Really makes the blood and Austin and Belle's houses pop in contrast.

Zombie Squared
Feb 16, 2007



I love that if you take the pills and you have no artistic talent you end up turning into a background goon from Buffy the vampire slayer.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Watched the first part, it was pretty good! Sure, why not take some black pills in a baggie from a guy in a clearly hosed up town. What could go wrong

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin

Pretty enjoyable first two episodes. And splitting the season into two parts is an extremely good idea, this show always seems to run out of steam towards the end of the season.

I'm also really enjoying the general setting and tone of the season so far. Obvious Stephen King vibes, but I'm also feeling some influences from the movies Dead and Buried and Messiah of Evil.

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy
I wasn't able to get into Alan Wake so I'm just going to pretend that this is it

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

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Zombie Squared posted:

I love that if you take the pills and you have no artistic talent you end up turning into a background goon from Buffy the vampire slayer.

Why do the goons have sharp teeth though? Is the tattoo/dentist helping them out too? When are they going to eat that baby?

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Zombie Squared
Feb 16, 2007



killer crane posted:

Why do the goons have sharp teeth though? Is the tattoo/dentist helping them out too? When are they going to eat that baby?

Given all the pre-hype season conjecture about mer people I am definately calling the muse is made from refined mer people babies. As for the teeth, you have to spend all those locked ipad bucks somewhere!

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