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Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Endorph posted:

like no seriously im gonna give you good faith here and assume its just cultural disconnect from you probably being on the older side given the 07 reg date/'gaming in the 90s' and sutff and probably spending time in older-leaning communities but like, this is just how people talk now.

i'm a 42 year old 04 who gamed plenty in the 90s and absolutely no. that poster does not deserve the benefit of the doubt, their position was that of a chud piece of poo poo in the 90s and remains that of a chud piece of poo poo today.

you, endorph, are a good poster though.

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Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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that big gay freshness lasts right through it

pyro's takes can suck my rear end

man you blew it!

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Eej posted:

This is realistically the most likely way to get rid of Bobby though

okay hear me out:

what if, instead, microsoft did not shower bobby kotick and his friends with cash? i think that might also be effective

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Craptacular! posted:

If Sony gets in on this their answer is probably to look to Ubisoft. I do wonder how long Nintendo can pluckily go along. At some point if Apple gives them an offer it would be worth considering if they get organizational independence but access to Apple Silicon. Apple really doesn't want to gently caress with the iPad as they'd have to in order to compete with the Switch, and they'd rather just profit off the people who own an iPad and a Switch which is a hell of a lot of people.

When has Apple ever signaled interest in AAA gaming? Why would they pivot into a new demographic when they already have a foothold in mobile gaming (which is infinitely more profitable) with room to grow? What company has Apple ever purchased that retained organizational independence?

I get that you're just spitballing here but this take doesn't make sense.

e: also why would sony buy ubisoft what is going on

e: also do you think the nation of japan would be comfortable with the sale of its single most profitable public company to an american firm

Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jan 19, 2022

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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External Organs posted:

I swear I'm not a Netflix stan but I do see the opportunity there - they have crazy popular franchises and shows that drive a serious amount of popular culture. It makes sense for them to try to capitalize on it, even though right now their offerings are essentially nothing. But they also arent hard to get into - I've already got a Netflix account, so sure I'm going to try their new card battler game that's free on Android with my subscription, and also know that it doesn't have micro transactions.

You could make this exact same argument for Disney, Warner Brothers, Viacom and Fox. Every major media company has popular franchises, do you ever wonder why they don't just spin up their own in-house AAA game publishing/streaming divisions?

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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that was admittedly a leading question but this is a great answer

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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DC Murderverse posted:

I wonder if the purchase caught them off guard and they’re doing it because they worry it might be now or never.

It pretty much is now or never. If you think ABK hiring bush era torture ghouls to run their strikebreaking operation is bad, that's nothing compared to the decades of anti-union machinery Microsoft has built. Right now, workers have the attention of congress and the media and that won't last.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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i don't think anyone cares that sports games are pretty much just roster updates, what's amazing is that they have trained their audience to buy a whole new video game every year plus new microtransactions. no other genre is that predatory except mobile.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Vegetable posted:

Honestly, NFTs are no more a sham than people getting, I dunno, autographed books or certified movie prop replicas or Pokémon card misprints or the brick from the Berlin wall. It’s not about the actual thing but the symbolism or the rarity of it. If they fix the carbon impact (and it’s already totally possible), then what the heck, go for it. Giant corporations will benefit but legitimate artists as well. And if anyone doesn’t want to participate that’s fine as well.

a: how is owning a line of code in a database at all comparable to owning a physical thing like a chunk of wall or a book?

b: if it's totally possible to fix the carbon impact please describe how

c: please understand a thing on any basic level before you post about it

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Vegetable posted:

Blockchain sure as poo poo doesn’t deliver on its promise of being some unique vector of trust. But if my favorite comic artist can make more money off minting NFTs than selling jpegs of thank-you certificates, why not? Why should I or anyone care?

because it's a complete scam. the value of those tokens will inevitably dive to zero as soon as the fad fades (which it will because the whole thing is predicated on a fundamental misunderstanding of the product) and you still haven't even begun to address the carbon concerns other than brainless hand-waving

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Terrible Opinions posted:

Well the solution is easy. Any blockchain could in theory move to go from proof of work to some other method of proof at any time with majority concensus or the mining nodes.

yeah huh remember when ethereum was gonna go proof of stake in 2019? lol. oh yeah, also 2020. and last year. and this year!

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Chillgamesh posted:

Doesn't Proof-of-Stake overwhelmingly privilege any user who has a shitload of currency? Like the system would judge that since you've staked so many valid tokens your transactions are highest priority? How would you use a proof-of-stake system to maintain integrity of a blockchain that isn't being used for currency, like confidential record storage or whatever?

you wouldn't. it's like allowing only the wealthiest 1% to vote for president. which explains a lot about its appeal.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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cheetah7071 posted:

There's already a system where you can buy and sell mtg cards for currency purchased with real cash, in mtg online. It just uses a central database instead of a blockchain because the blockchain doesn't add anything

The advantage of a blockchain is that it skirts regulation. EA, at least in most countries, can't just run an open table real money casino for kids. But if it's on the blockchain then they're not the ones running the casino, are they? It's decentralized bay bee!!!

The reason they want to get into crypto is the same reason literally anyone does: to make as much ugly illegal money as possible before the law shows up. If you don't think this applies to you, congratulations! You're the mark!

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Fame Douglas posted:

If they're taking a cut off sales, they're involved in some way, either running or contracting the blockchain or marketplace. You can't skirt gambling regulations by simply saying the magic word "blockchain"

I don't think that EA or 2K or whoever is going to do anything explicitly illegal, but there's a hell of a lot of grey area in crypto, both companies have been trying very hard for years to make casinos for children, and the two are now colliding.

Clarste posted:

You don't need to create new regulation if existing laws can be applied to it. As mentioned, there's nothing magical about the word "blockchain" or "decentralized" that makes laws no longer apply (although this is clearly what its proponents believe). If anything the blockchain provides a publicly viewable list of transactions as evidence.

Well, yes, but crypto is also a largely unregulated way to transfer funds internationally. The rewards outweigh the risk most of the time and enforcement is practically nonexistent. You can scroll through dozens of stories of e-celebs openly shilling for pump and dump schemes or offshore crypto gambling. Practically zero get arrested or fined.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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je1 healthcare posted:

Correct, Hogan sued Gawker media for refusing to take down his uncensored sex tape, the jury ruled in his favor which directly resulted in their bankruptcy. It entirely could have been avoided if they thought to blur out his dick and maybe didn't publish op-eds denouncing revenge porn and celebrity nude leaks. But now their biggest accomplishment is handing tens of millions of dollars to a racist blacklisted wrestler and saving him from the fate of dying sad and broke. Thanks Denton!

Why would you fail to mention who funded Hogan's side of the lawsuit and why?

Both sides are dumb, the whole thing was dumb, but painting this as poor hulk hogan getting justice for his dick being on the internet is... not remotely accurate.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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I can't comprehend anyone getting 1100 game devs and their associated studios in montreal for 300 million. Forget the IP, any publisher would absolutely lose their minds at that opportunity. That's like, a tenth the cost of recruiting those devs, assuming you can even find that many.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Moola posted:

It's really cool that "haha kill yourself 😂" posts are just given a slap on the wrist at worst

perhaps if i say the right words the mods will punish the person i dont like

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Lazy Robot posted:

I'm really proud of my coworkers in Raven QA for this. I mostly just shitposted in our discord, and voted of course, but some of them got up and testified in front of a federal panel with their bosses-bosses sitting right there. We are celebrating today, but we know we have a long fight ahead of us to get a first contract negotiated.

Never stop shitposting and never, ever stop voting to unionize.

I hope you beat the poo poo out of negotiate the best god drat contract the industry's ever seen

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Regalingualius posted:

This is absolutely great news, though I’m still guardedly optimistic about it all.

Genuinely asking: what’s to stop AB from saying “our terms are ‘eat poo poo and die’” and deciding that they’d rather take the fines than allow any union to take root?

The legal machinations of the NLRB do not involve fines, they force companies to reinstate workers and give them back pay, generally. If they don't comply with that, they get found in contempt of court, which can involve fines and jail time for actual executives.

Most employers do not want to deal with any of that, especially with the current administration quietly giving the agency a lot more resources. It's generally easier to just drag out the process and make it as awful as possible instead.

Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 05:18 on May 24, 2022

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

Glad they have their priorities straight. :rolleyes:

"another sexual harassment case? jeez, nobody will even read the article, how do we zazz up this headline?"

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Bust Rodd posted:

As more and more video games delve into pornographic outlets

Bust Rodd, I'd like to, as kindly as possible, ask you what in the holy gently caress you're talking about.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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ezra miller is an enby and goes by they

and honestly if they hadn't gone so spectacularly and violently nuts i don't think anyone outside the dceu fandom (lmao) would know who they even are.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Fruits of the sea posted:

Kinda hoping somebody edits and re-posts this with context because right now its all over the place.

There's actual heinous and recent stuff mixed in with generic internet atheist posts from 2009 and it sucks because it makes it incredibly easy to write off. That thread needs an editor badly, this is not a great way to do this.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Dieting Hippo posted:

Hi, welcome to the thread about how the Games industry is filled with bigots who get away with poo poo because no one will ever meet them and why would it affect them anyway.

Hey, this is a profoundly dumb sentiment. Posters in this thread are not responsible for and do not affect bigotry in the games industry, we're just talking about it. Complaining that that twitter thread was an incomprehensible mess that probably does more harm than good is not the same thing as letting someone off the hook for bigotry.

e: in fact, the premise of the complaint is that the twitter thread sucks because it makes it easy to write off the bigotry that's actually happening because of all the extraneous bullshit.

Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 26, 2022

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Dieting Hippo posted:

My premise is why write off actual credible bigotry for any reason?

good question, ask twitter.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Phone games are great, as long as they're older console games and you're playing them through an emulator.

I don't think I've played an actual mobile game from an app store in years. I'm sure there are wonderful experiences out there that don't eventually try and hold you upside down and shake you until money falls out, but I'm not interested in navigating the minefield to find out. What would be rad is an alternative mobile game store that doesn't allow microtransactions but lmao fat fuckin chance.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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exquisite tea posted:

If you have a healthy relationship with games of chance and realistic expectations of yourself

These gameplay loops are inherently evil because they're specifically designed for people who don't have these things. Just because some or even most people can use drugs responsibly doesn't mean we shouldn't regulate them at all, as an example.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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fun and addiction may or may not be intrinsically linked, I don't think there's enough data to call it either way.

we do know for certain that some game mechanics are more addictive than others, and that games can produce the same "zone out" effect that casinos are designed to do.

honestly, knowing those two things makes it impossible to morally monetize games beyond an initial purchase price in my opinion. it is pointlessly impractical to integrate monetization into a video game in an ethical way, the entire process is a psychological minefield that nobody in the games industry is qualified to navigate.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Arzachel posted:

We know for certain that trashy romance novels can produce the same "zone out" effect that casinos are designed to do

and if trashy romance novels interrupted you every 15 minutes to ask for money, i'd have a problem with that, too.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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30.5 Days posted:

OK but obviously if they did, it wouldn't mean that the romance novels became more addictive.

cool, it's a good thing nobody argued that because that would be pretty dumb.

e: are you arguing that games aren't / can't be designed specifically to be addictive for the purposes of monetization?

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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30.5 Days posted:

Yes. Games can be designed to be enjoyable, and monetization can be designed to take advantage of addicts. If addictiveness and fun are distinct, then what is an example of a game that is addictive but no fun?

Nearly the entire mobile gaming landscape?

e: this is confusing. what I asked was this:

are you arguing that games aren't / can't be designed specifically to be addictive for the purposes of monetization?

and I don't think you are. I think you'd agree with me that games are often designed to be addictive right up until it introduces an artificial pain point that can be resolved with money.

Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jul 19, 2022

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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30.5 Days posted:

But obviously drinking alcohol, doing cocaine, having sex, or any number of other potentially addictive activities, are fun. The dependence comes as a result of that fact.

addiction isn't a result of "fun", that's a bizarre conflation of a reasonably well studied medical condition with an abstract concept that doesn't have an agreed upon definition.

e: and i don't know if you've ever been addicted to anything but it certainly ain't fun after a while, if it ever was to begin with.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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define fun in a way that applies universally to all people, please

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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30.5 Days posted:

I agree with you that people addicted to sex are not enjoying sex anymore. I disagree with you that people addicted to sex never enjoyed sex, or that their enjoyment of sex didn't lead to their addiction, that's ridiculous.

good thing i didn't say that then.

please stop doing this

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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30.5 Days posted:

You said "if indeed they ever did"

yes, i did. if. if indeed.

am i being punk'd? are you ashley kutchner?

Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jul 19, 2022

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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e: misclick

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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30.5 Days posted:

The monetization is completely unrelated to the addiction (unless your actual addiction is spending money, I guess) - the monetization is there to wring money from people who are addicted because of the game mechanics themselves.

This was already explained, you just ignored it. You are using some definition of "addiction" that is wholly separate from the clinical one, which was in a post you quoted so I know you read it.

Stop, please. I don't know what point you feel so desperately compelled to prove here but it isn't about video games anymore.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Ibram Gaunt posted:

It's probably the same few people buying it back and forth to inflate value like every high profile NFT isn't it

Yes, and it's important to remember that when you have a system with zero oversight or controls, the most obvious possible scam is almost always the truth. We don't even think about obvious poo poo like proxy bidding anymore because any system you'll interact with online will be build to prevent such things. None of the basic common-sense safeguards that exist on the internet at large exist in the crypto space though.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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Assassin's Creed Mirage: Ubisoft Says It Won't Have Gambling or Lootboxes After Rating Confusion

quote:

In a statement made to IGN, an Ubisoft spokesperson said the game hasn't yet been rated and that any reference to an Adults Only 18+ rating - which apparently meant the inclusion of intense violence, blood and gore, sexual themes, partial nudity, and real gambling - was a mistake.

"Following the announcement of Assassin's Creed Mirage during Ubisoft Forward, some store pages mistakenly displayed the game for preorders with an Adults Only ESRB rating," said the Ubisoft spokesperson.

"While Assassin's Creed Mirage is still pending rating, Ubisoft wants to reassure players that no real gambling or lootboxes are present in the game."

translation: oh gently caress oh poo poo jesus christ rip the nfts out right now oh god hurry up

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Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

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I think "what one considers indie" is an incredibly tedious thing to argue over and you should give it a rest.

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