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is there data somewhere showing current change relative to pre-industrial by region, state, etc.? I know areas are already at +2C, like parts of the New Jersey coast
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 17:48 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 09:19 |
Thread is extremely good today. About the new asset class based on anything that sustains life at all, I truly do hate it but it would be wild if they NYSE machinations even buy us one extra day for their efforts
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 17:49 |
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AnemicChipmunk posted:https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg8yj8/ted-cruz-says-bitcoin-mining-can-fix-texas-crumbling-electric-grid Looks like the sections in a lot of free trade agreements that will handsomely compensate the titans of industry if they're inconvenienced by a government trying to protect its environment. A bit like the way UPS sued Canada under NAFTA for having a national post. The tribunal threw that one out but gently caress United Parcel Smashers anyway. Basic Poster posted:Thread is extremely good today. About the new asset class based on anything that sustains life at all, I truly do hate it but it would be wild if they NYSE machinations even buy us one extra day for their efforts That would definitely be worth a lol.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:18 |
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exxon is going to buy a bunch of the rainforest assets and say that credits them to being able to drill a whole bunch more
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:25 |
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Shear Modulus posted:exxon is going to buy a bunch of the rainforest assets and say that credits them to being able to drill a whole bunch more in that same rainforest
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:27 |
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actionjackson posted:is there data somewhere showing current change relative to pre-industrial by region, state, etc.? I know areas are already at +2C, like parts of the New Jersey coast idk about NJ, but the gulf of maine is warming faster than 99% of the ocean quote:While flying to a conference in 2014, Pershing had an idea. He had been mulling over data showing the Gulf of Maine’s rate of warming over the past decade. That rate seemed high to him, but he wanted to know how it compared to warming in the rest of the ocean. nobody here cares. eat lobster lmao
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:27 |
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Topo Chico Debarge posted:The Expanse future implies that humanity at some point managed to collaborate enough to occupy the solar system. not only that but build a giant seawall to protect NYC, lmao like no one is doing anything
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:29 |
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Stevie Lee posted:idk about NJ, but the gulf of maine is warming faster than 99% of the ocean soon they'll even come pre-boiled straight from the ocean for your convenience!
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:30 |
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Surely 15 years of a nearly double warming rate has manifested some effects on the coastal regions and even more inland. Most articles about the Gulf of Maine are about effects on marine life and fisheries. Lobsters and cod moving north for colder water. Anyone from the area can chime in on changes they've seen in the past 15 years? Regarding warming waters and fishing, I think the Chesapeake Bay area started having a large shrimp harvest a year or two ago. The shrimp have moved into the area from further south. Good for shrimp prices in VA, I guess.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:42 |
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bagual posted:The biosphere sustained 90%+ diversity destruction several times from cosmic catastrophes on a power scale humans thankfully may never reach like the permian event asteroids and extreme temperature cycles, and bacteria, plants, fungus, algae, insects, anelids and simple ocean organisms like plankton corals and jellies lived through all that Maybe maybe...... I'm still holding out hope the the disruption wrought by plastics is a special type of destruction not even equaled by global warming. 10,000 years from now, when humans are all dead and the temp has returned to normal, most of the plastic will still be there, except for the tiny bit exposed on land that sunlight destroys. The micro particals and BPAs will still be being passed up and down the food chain causing reproductive issues. Right now we're poisoning some microorganisms like plankton. I suppose bacteria and viruses are unaffected.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:43 |
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actionjackson posted:is there data somewhere showing current change relative to pre-industrial by region, state, etc.? I know areas are already at +2C, like parts of the New Jersey coast The National Weather Service is going to have data available for about one hundred years or more for individual stations across the US. You can look at the data yourself, but it's not as easy as what you probably want. Here's the page for the NYC forecast office: https://www.weather.gov/okx/ The 30-year averages that they use to calculate normal temps also just got redone for 2020. Places like Boston increased by like 2F over the last 30-year period. In other words, if you see a forecast that says temps will be normal, it's actually a few degrees warmer than the previous normal. Woo.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:44 |
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Shear Modulus posted:exxon is going to buy a bunch of the rainforest assets and say that credits them to being able to drill a whole bunch more it's still profit seeking, and the profit from rain forests doesn't come from letting them exist. they'll burn the forest for fields, and buy carbon offset credits from an exxon owned charity to plant tress in a recent deforested area in the US, so that place can then buy carbon offset credits from the charity that's going to plant the crops in the ex-rainforest space.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:51 |
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Topo Chico Debarge posted:The Expanse future implies that humanity at some point managed to collaborate enough to occupy the solar system. its pretty funny that seemingly nobody could come up with any convincing imaginary history for our current era that doesnt involve apocalyptic warfare, so they just sweep it aside
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:58 |
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Lost Time posted:https://twitter.com/MrMatthewTodd/status/1447832590350700547
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 18:59 |
The Demilich posted:This is all I want to do with my life anymore. I've no idea how to properly buy property though so I don't get screwed, and I want to purchase out of state no less. It all feels like it's impossible quite frankly. I just did this. My third time buying land. I'd be happy to help with your process, there are many mistakes to make.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 19:04 |
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Lost Time posted:https://twitter.com/MrMatthewTodd/status/1447832590350700547 He can't say that because then people might not go see Avatar 2.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 19:08 |
Minenfeld! posted:The National Weather Service is going to have data available for about one hundred years or more for individual stations across the US. You can look at the data yourself, but it's not as easy as what you probably want. Whole pnw is +2C preindustrial
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 19:08 |
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so i just started a graduate level course titled 'geographic information systmes for climate change science' and in our first zoom meeting, my ancient professor replied to a concerned student bringing up the leaked report from the IPCC with something like "yeah when i graduated, the issue everyone was worried about was global cooling! there's always a 'crisis' of some sort so i'm pretty skeptical about whatever new sensation is being peddled these days" my climate change science professor is a climate change skeptic. very interesting. so i decided to look this guy up and ahahahahhahhahahahahahahhahahahaahhahahahaahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 19:31 |
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https://twitter.com/ewg/status/1447994730286026763?t=_9Dy77CmKjlOhaHDHlSRRw&s=19
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 19:50 |
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Shutting the barn door after all the horses have gotten out, evolved language and opposable thumbs, formed an egalitarian society, and have enslaved humanity to toil in the apple and hay mines. In other news, OH NO, that thing that's already happened is happening soon! https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/13/energy/iea-world-energy-outlook-climate/index.html BIG HEADLINE has issued a correction as of 20:37 on Oct 13, 2021 |
# ? Oct 13, 2021 20:10 |
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WorldsStongestNerd posted:Maybe maybe...... I'm still holding out hope the the disruption wrought by plastics is a special type of destruction not even equaled by global warming. its only a matter of time before some bacteria figures out how to metabolize plastic and once that happens the problem fixes itself
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:06 |
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God Hole posted:so i just started a graduate level course titled 'geographic information systmes for climate change science' and in our first zoom meeting, my ancient professor replied to a concerned student bringing up the leaked report from the IPCC with something like "yeah when i graduated, the issue everyone was worried about was global cooling! there's always a 'crisis' of some sort so i'm pretty skeptical about whatever new sensation is being peddled these days" You should ask him what it’s like to be such a cheap whore.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:17 |
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Spergin Morlock posted:its only a matter of time before some bacteria figures out how to metabolize plastic and once that happens the problem fixes itself Any bacteria that figures out how to metabolize plastic has already figured out how to metabolize bone, flesh, and basically all other related carbon-based life and organic matter so that'd be *all* problems solved, honestly.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:19 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Any bacteria that figures out how to metabolize plastic has already figured out how to metabolize bone, flesh, and basically all other related carbon-based life and organic matter so that'd be *all* problems solved, honestly. There are bacteria that do metabolize those things. Their problem is their fellows and immune systems metabolizing them back.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:22 |
nature will adapt to just heal itself and magically eat our garbage is the most boomer brained post imaginable
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:26 |
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God Hole posted:so i just started a graduate level course titled 'geographic information systmes for climate change science' and in our first zoom meeting, my ancient professor replied to a concerned student bringing up the leaked report from the IPCC with something like "yeah when i graduated, the issue everyone was worried about was global cooling! there's always a 'crisis' of some sort so i'm pretty skeptical about whatever new sensation is being peddled these days" lmfao this is amazing
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:45 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Shutting the barn door after all the horses have gotten out, evolved language and opposable thumbs, formed an egalitarian society, and have enslaved humanity to toil in the apple and hay mines. Excuse me, but I was told that peak oil wasn't real? Are you sure?
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:47 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:nature will adapt to just heal itself and magically eat our garbage is the most boomer brained post imaginable
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 21:56 |
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Hubbert posted:Excuse me, but I was told that peak oil wasn't real? Are you sure? my favourite "argument" against peak oil is "oil will get more expensive as supply gets constrained so demand will go down before it ever peaks" and it's like.... gently caress do you even know what peak oil MEANS?? do you know what that means for our ENERGY DEPENDENT civilization?! "demand will just naturally decline in an orderly way" is the dumbest take when we have superpowers with nuclear weapons in play
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 22:02 |
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God Hole posted:so i just started a graduate level course titled 'geographic information systmes for climate change science' and in our first zoom meeting, my ancient professor replied to a concerned student bringing up the leaked report from the IPCC with something like "yeah when i graduated, the issue everyone was worried about was global cooling! there's always a 'crisis' of some sort so i'm pretty skeptical about whatever new sensation is being peddled these days" You've got Robert Balling for a prof?? I might be misremembering*, but I'm pretty sure he was mentioned in "Stupid to the Last Drop: How Alberta Is Bringing Environmental Armageddon to Canada (And Doesn't Seem to Care)". Dude's sucked a lot of Koch over the years. Could be an interesting class if you want a window into maintaining contrarianism in the face of a tsunami of evidence. *hard to keep track of these shitbirds.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 22:02 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:nature will adapt to just heal itself and magically eat our garbage is the most boomer brained post imaginable I mean maybe one day. I'd like to think there will be life like there was again 30 million years from now
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 22:04 |
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the real injustice about all of this is dudes like balling will die long before they see what they have caused if i had a parent or grandparent that was like one of those dudes i would tell them "thanks for destroying the world" and cut all contact forever
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 22:05 |
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Spergin Morlock posted:its only a matter of time before some bacteria figures out how to metabolize plastic and once that happens the problem fixes itself there are but it's more forced in a lab environment and not something that's happy to reproduce and spread in the wide. also the byproduct of eating plastic is also toxic lol the thing is, the organic molecular breakdown of polymers and such isn't very energy-friendly
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 22:08 |
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Hexigrammus posted:You've got Robert Balling for a prof?? I might be misremembering*, but I'm pretty sure he was mentioned in "Stupid to the Last Drop: How Alberta Is Bringing Environmental Armageddon to Canada (And Doesn't Seem to Care)". Dude's sucked a lot of Koch over the years. Could be an interesting class if you want a window into maintaining contrarianism in the face of a tsunami of evidence. it doesnt surprise me, everything is so loving stupid lol i will be sure to update the thread with any incredibly big brained claims that pop up in class. Lordshmee posted:You should ask him what it’s like to be such a cheap whore. i don't even wanna be around anymore
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 23:34 |
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God Hole posted:it doesnt surprise me, everything is so loving stupid lol i will be sure to update the thread with any incredibly big brained claims that pop up in class. keep crack pinging until that feeling goes away
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 23:38 |
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Why are you taking grad classes anymore even Is the official thread stance is that you should not drop out??
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 23:38 |
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do whatever makes you happy some people really like going to classes and taking notes
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 23:43 |
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there’s functionally nothing you can do about the climate apocalypse so might as well keep doing whatever you want.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 23:44 |
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my good friend is a marine biologist specializing in coral and her lab is effectively building a coral ark, since they are convinced that the oceans are going to soon be completely inhospitable to all corals and so they’re trying to freeze them so that they can unfreeze them at some arbitrary point in the future and we don’t just lose all the coral to extinction. seems like a worthwhile graduate school result.
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# ? Oct 13, 2021 23:46 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 09:19 |
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the joke is on the environment destroying it makes me happy
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