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Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

None of it made sense. Like the virtual reality thing that was written on a list and then turned out to be a sim after they’d sold it. What are they supposed to do at that point? Or when the one client has an arbitrary budget they can’t walk away. Completely pointless and just boring now. Nonsense.

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stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Bape Culture posted:

None of it made sense. Like the virtual reality thing that was written on a list and then turned out to be a sim after they’d sold it. What are they supposed to do at that point? Or when the one client has an arbitrary budget they can’t walk away. Completely pointless and just boring now. Nonsense.

I feel like that one came down to the production staff/Alan having no idea what VR was and just rolling with it as if they'd made a mistake. The client didn't actually care after mentioning it one time anyway.

I loved how after one of the negotiations one of them suggested it would've been better to walk away than take the deal they took - as if that's an option and they're not just stuck in a room shouting numbers until they break down.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

A lot of the issues are COVID related for sure, but they are only highlighting issues that were always present in the corporate tasks.
It's clear from no one, even supposed members of the public, wearing masks in enclosed spaces nor the visible presence of any COVID measures at all, that everyone you're seeing on the show is pre-arranged for them.
Frankly they shouldn't have bothered rather than trying to create an alternate reality where it wasn't filmed during a pandemic.

Tea Bone
Feb 18, 2011

I'm going for gasps.

stev posted:

I loved how after one of the negotiations one of them suggested it would've been better to walk away than take the deal they took - as if that's an option and they're not just stuck in a room shouting numbers until they break down.

Just once I'd like to see one of the suppliers not be up for bartering. How often in the real world does someone instantly knock off 20% because the buyer expected it to be cheaper. Then continue to "meet in the middle" after saying they can't possibly go any lower.

"It's £1000"
"We expected more in the range of £500"
"Well good luck in the boardroom"

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Genuinely laughed out loud at the shitness of this episode.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Genuinely found that one quite entertaining, but I suppose that task always will be.

"Keep in touch" :stare:

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
lol who even buys from tv shopping channels these days

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
I thought the same and then yesterday discovered my father in law had bought a pressure washer from QVC but his initial enthusiasm had waned considerably before he had even finished cleaning his car with it :allears:

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
yeah powerhoses and exercise equipment seem to be the main staples of those things

memory foam too

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
and jewellery that looks like bigger versions of a child's dressup jewellery

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
YEW awh gaoing to DEESOHN ay NOO :sexarse: fow thuh :sexarse: mawkiht :bahgawd:

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



FIRST TIME gently caress DIES :black101:

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

FIRST TIME gently caress DIES

410757864530 DEAD PRODUCTS

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Amazingly terrible.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??
This series has been terrible but this episode is top 10 at least

MyChemicalImbalance
Sep 15, 2007

Keep on smilin'



:unsmith:
:bravo: to both teams - crap in a jar did not go down well with those business reps.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



He seems genuinely embarrassed that this is the best six he's left with.

His own fault for getting rid of the best one last week.

e: lmao the one who came up with gently caress Dies stays. Good job you daft prick.

stev fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Mar 10, 2022

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
That was a wonderful disaster. Well, two of them

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

This must be the third week Akeem has been told off for not shutting down one of Stephanie's terrible ideas, and this time he's fired for it.
What is her business plan, a blowjob factory for has-been computer salesmen?

Amazing.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

The editing was on point this week, though.

Team A: they think we want to kill babies
*cut*
babies having a mental breakdown trying to eat Team B's food.

Austen Tassletine
Nov 5, 2010
Yet again, the extreme pointlessness and artificial nature of the show appears front and centre. The entire point of market research and focus groups is to identify issues and problems so you can assess and correct them before you bring them to market. Yet here they're told their logo is poo poo, you can't change it, good luck with it when you pitch it later on today? I know the show's always been nonsense, but recent seasons have become egregious. I threw the towel in a season or two ago, and I should have left it there rather than picking it up and watching this shite again. What a load of balls.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

In a smarter series, someone might have pointed out that Morocco is in Africa, and entirely west of London. But pointing out the awful geography seems like nitpicking compared to putting "eat this and your baby dies" on your baby food, I guess.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
is that the first instance of someone saying "gently caress" uncensored on this show?

loled at how genuinely pissed off those real life people were

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



crispix posted:

is that the first instance of someone saying "gently caress" uncensored on this show?

loled at how genuinely pissed off those real life people were

Probably this series, but IIRC they used to constantly swear in the earlier seasons.

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
I'm glad they were pissed off because the old 'this is a prototype we can change it' line was wearing thin. Yes the task is bullshit but so is pretending you aren't abandoning it immediately afterwards.

Tea Bone
Feb 18, 2011

I'm going for gasps.
I know there have been 0 sales before but had it ever happened this late in the game. Also I thought it was funny when Lord Sugar said something along the lines of:
"First time gently caress dies, the word on the end in particular you don't want on anything associated with children"... I mean "gently caress"and children is probably just as bad.

Gutted to see Akeem go. He was never going to win but I desperately wanted to see him flounder through the interview round.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

This is loving dire.

The constant cuts back to them gossiping over how scary these hyper easy questions and cheap gotchas are.

The jumped up adland execs asking baby's first manufacturing questions straight off the script.

"How can you come in here with such a small business" because if they had any prospects they'd be talking to a loving bank and not humiliating themselves on national TV you mug

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Every year it becomes a bit more obvious that these people came up with a business idea after they'd decided to be on The Apprentice.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Strategic Tea posted:

This is loving dire.

The constant cuts back to them gossiping over how scary these hyper easy questions and cheap gotchas are.

The jumped up adland execs asking baby's first manufacturing questions straight off the script.

"How can you come in here with such a small business" because if they had any prospects they'd be talking to a loving bank and not humiliating themselves on national TV you mug

yeah these are the people who can't even get on dragons' den

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
that was utterly tiresome to watch lol

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I wish they did some sort of review of business plans at the start of the process. Have say 30 candidates and the 15 businesses that Alan likes the best go on to the actual competition bit. Brittany basically wasted months of her life to be told "you're good but your business idea is so bad that you never stood a chance".

And make it a rule that the business can't already exist. What's the point in putting someone with nothing but an idea up against someone who's already been up and running for half a decade? The whole show needs to be reworked for the whole business partner idea to make any sense at all. I realise that I've said this every year for a literal decade now.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
it was so contrived. they scripted those interviews just to make them cry for television

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

The cry sesh in particular felt like such box ticking this year, real Kitchen Nightmares level stuff

Tea Bone
Feb 18, 2011

I'm going for gasps.

stev posted:

I wish they did some sort of review of business plans at the start of the process. Have say 30 candidates and the 15 businesses that Alan likes the best go on to the actual competition bit. Brittany basically wasted months of her life to be told "you're good but your business idea is so bad that you never stood a chance".

And make it a rule that the business can't already exist. What's the point in putting someone with nothing but an idea up against someone who's already been up and running for half a decade? The whole show needs to be reworked for the whole business partner idea to make any sense at all. I realise that I've said this every year for a literal decade now.

I really wish they did the interviews as the first task. It's annoying when someone performs well (or less bad than the others) each week only to turn out to be a non starter.

I've never liked the interviews because it's always felt like an excuse to fire anyone he likes, but that seems to be the format every week now anyway. Fire someone from the losing team and make up a reason why it was their fault.

My fiance raised a good point watching the board room this week. When Lord Sugar starts going off on Brittany saying he's not sure how viable her plan is and nobody will stock her product, a perfect response from her would be "We've been doing nothing but pitching bad ideas for 12 weeks and it seems big chains will buy any old poo poo".

Just once I want to see a contestant give up and highlight the show for the bollocks it is before leaving.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Say what you like about Katie Hopkins but it was extremely funny when she went all 'you can't fire me I quit, dickhead' lol

I just reminded myself of the guy a few seasons back who got all the way to the interviews only for it to come out that he didn't even own the business he said he did, he just knew the guy who did from uni. It's between that and the guy whose whole proposal was three pages long, one of which was all clipart, for funniest interview, for me at least.

Tea Bone
Feb 18, 2011

I'm going for gasps.

ThomasPaine posted:

I just reminded myself of the guy a few seasons back who got all the way to the interviews only for it to come out that he didn't even own the business he said he did, he just knew the guy who did from uni. It's between that and the guy whose whole proposal was three pages long, one of which was all clipart, for funniest interview, for me at least.

The apprentice would be a much better show if it was just one viable business plan among the run of the mill idiots who want to globalise their baking hobby or whatever. There's no interview round and the show is now about Lord Sugar trying to find the only good candidate.

"You're Hired"
"Oh sorry Lord Sugar. You hired David who works as an accountant. His business plan is selling golf clubs to babies out of his dad's shed and expects a 5 billion turnover in year 3. The correct candidate was John who you fired in week 1 because he didn't know how to direct a viral ad"

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

The weird rub of this is, Brittany's plan makes a lot more sense than the shows actual premise.
Who the gently caress wants to give up a 50% stake in a business that is, supposedly, established and on course to make millions, for £250k? It's a completely ludicrous offer akin to the payday loans of the business world.
No one would take this offer on Dragon's den.

"I have an idea that I am sure will work, here's the research and groundwork, here's a prototype/recipe, do the rest for me and I'll give you 50% equity" is a much more realistic situation.

It's like it's trying to differentiate between itself and Dragon's den, but they've not sat down and thought it through.

Or maybe its intentionally bad so you get idiots wanting to open a bakery (there's been like 10 of these now) or a fast-fashion line.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Stop making Harpreet reinvent and relaunch her fully established business. What's the point.

Tea Bone
Feb 18, 2011

I'm going for gasps.
Katherine's drawing of a leopard was the highlight of the series for me.

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Austen Tassletine
Nov 5, 2010
I'm a bit confused. Like most of us over the age of twelve I don't wear pyjamas myself, but I thought they tended to be trouser length even for women. Yet the ones she presented on stage were shorts?

Also, yet again the nonsense of the format appears front and centre when they have to present their major investment pitch only a day or two after even picking a name in a brainstorm session. And the artificial splitting of the team means that the head of the business isn't able to give their input and is presented with the branding of the product without a chance to change. And the market research happens without any time to modify the product and advertisement based on the results.

The entire format of business plans has been rubbish from the start. As others have said, if you are a legitimate business you can get far better opportunities for expansion than this circus. And it makes everything task related irrelevant.

A waste off everyone's time. Why is this still on the BBC? Surely it should have been flogged to a commercial channel by now to die its inevitable and long overdue death away from the public gaze (and the public purse).

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