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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
i saw Nealeo has a new one. it's about a super storm because of climate change or something?

is it good?

my thoughts on neal stuff, for reference:

SNOW CRASH: is awesome if you're like 12... gets worse every time i re-read it, though i still would say it's an "okay" book. but man it is super juvenile and stuff like Sushi K has aged really bad (if it was ever funny in the frist pace)

THE DIAMOND DAGE: super good

CRYPTONOMICON: super good

THE BAROQUE CYCLE: my favorite historical fiction novels ever... they are so good

ANATHEM: super good

REAMDE: ehhhhhhhhhh it's Tom Clancy for libertatians lmao

SEVENEVES: it's okay

FALL OR DODGE IN HELL: this is legitimately the worst novel i have ever read

THE RISE AND FALL OF DODO: it was okay... i suspect the better parts were written by the other write tho

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

ChunTheUnavoidable posted:

I usually don’t like him but baroque cycle has me interested, I’d never heard of it before now

it is far and away better than his other stuff, and not exactly similar to it either... i mean like it's sort of similar to Cryptonimicon as it is sort of a prequel to that, but it also drops almost ALL of the extreme juvenile stuff he is mostly known for

i mean yes there is a japanese jesuit priest who wields a katana in it... but overall it's very restrained by his standards (though not in the sense of being brief, it's 3,000+ pages over 5 books after all... lmao)

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
yeah SEVENEVES is weird... the first part is good with Tekla and the beginning of the space station, but then it really slows to a crawl with the space porn and then it suddenly is a weird super-future thing...

i guess i can use my audible credit for the month on stephenson and if its bad just refund it... thats what i did with FALL lmao

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

rotinaj posted:

Been weird and boring so far with a princess also being a secret agent for Finland and infiltrating southern Texas by crashing an airplane into Waco.

i love his ability to make stuff like that boring lmao

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
i dunno i feel like he has transitioned out of "nerd book" into "dad book" territory

FALL is the most "old man writes about stuff he doesn't understand" book i've ever read

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Atlas Hugged posted:

Gibson's sequel to The Peripheral where Hillary won was pretty lame and his Twitter has a lot of Boomer Democrat energy.

yeah The Peripheral is maybe his best novel but Agency was really boring and toothless

not as bad as Stephenson's worst but disappointing :(

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
the best thing gibson wrote is that poem about his granpa in tennessee

Agrippa: A Book of the Dead

Agrippa (A Book of the Dead) is a work of art created by science fiction novelist William Gibson, artist Dennis Ashbaugh and publisher Kevin Begos Jr. in 1992.[1][2][3][4] The work consists of a 300-line semi-autobiographical electronic poem by Gibson, embedded in an artist's book by Ashbaugh.[5] Gibson's text focused on the ethereal, human-owed nature of memories retained over the passage of time (the title referred to a Kodak photo album from which the text's memories are taken). Its principal notoriety arose from the fact that the poem, stored on a 3.5" floppy disk, was programmed to encrypt itself after a single use; similarly, the pages of the artist's book were treated with photosensitive chemicals, effecting the gradual fading of the words and images from the book's first exposure to light.[5]

& then on the day it was released to the art world the entire text of the poem was :airquote: mysteriously :airquote: uploaded to the then-very-new internet

the whole thing was just rad as heck

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
itt ANATHEM was the first book to have a trailer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWs1h5WAjWY

frikkin rad as frik... would be cool on HBO

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Mooey Cow posted:

Let's make this thread about good author Gibson instead of mediocre Meal Stephenson


Remember how in Virtual Light all those people are living on a bridge in San Fran, and everyone thinks it's gotta be Golden Gate because that's the bridge in SF right? Well actually it's the bridge on the other side of town, the Oakland-Whatever bridge, that they live on :eng101:

yeah gibson is way better than even the best stephenson... well maybe anathem and baroque cycle are gibson tier... maybe

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
yeah zodiac is fine... there's nothing wrong with it

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

SilkyP posted:

Can you sell me on one of his super good books
I read one where it’s starts of with some dude named Enoch watching a hanging or some poo poo and it was really dragging on but does it get any better?

yeah as said that's the start of the Baroque Cycle, which owns very hard. that said even as a fan of his it took me until my third try to actually get through the first book. weirdly enough, the first book is REALLY AWESOME on your second read because of stuff you know.

The Diamond Age is a pretty quick read and it's one of his more interesting settings if u wanna try that one

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
also he wrote the entirety of THE BAROQUE CYCLE longhand... i suspect he used to have a raging cocaine habit because he talks about listening to speedmetal while he writes and then he writes 3000 pages by hand just for the hell of it lol

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
lmao

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
while i agree in general i do think Agency is like... noticeably worse than his second-worse which is probably, i dunno, Virtual Light maybe?

but then again when i went back to Virtual Light recently i found a ton of stuff i had kind of forgotten was in it, details that made it way better

maybe Agency will hold up better on a re-read. i did listen to the audiobook while mostly driving and with Gibson i usually prefer to read the text.

disagree about All Tomorro'w Partyes tho. that book slaps nuts.

edit: oh wait no Spook Country is the second worst... like Agency it was just kind of forgettable even tho Milgrim is a pretty dece protag

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
i did appreciate that in the end the entire plot of Spook Country is people fighting over the possession of literally nothing

apt

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
its not a joke, stephenson has big "i'm a bad boy on the internet and i write about loving, i gently caress" energy

and like i'm sure he does gently caress, but it is sometimes lol...

it was especially lmao in DODO where he and the female author both had author-insert characters and those characters kept dirty talking to each other and it was like haha oh my godddddd

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Baron von Eevl posted:

Whatever though the first book is about hunting down a more pretentious marble hornets over a web forum.

yeah it's kind of awesome how ahead of its time "The Footage" was

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Baron von Eevl posted:

Anathem ends with Raz's spasming body being used as a vibrator.

haha i very much do not remember this at all

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
ohhhh yeah

Neal is extremely horny lmao

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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
actually never even read The Mongolioid

haha the failed sword fighting kickstarter was peak 00s

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