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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Yikes, Mr. MacMahon looks like a guy that died and came back to life :haw:


Ok no really though his complete lack of expression is creepy

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Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting
(Okay, let's actually do this this time)

SHAWN MICHAELS, MR. WRESTLEMANIA, PART 3: MR. WRESTLEMANIA




WRESTLEMANIA XIX: SHAWN MICHAELS VS CHRIS JERICHO

You’d think that Michaels was tempting fate.

It had seemingly been driven in that the man was retired. That his back injury was too severe for him to return as a full time wrestler, and that even a part time wrestler or occasional one shots was dangerous. When he made his return at Summerslam in August 2002, it seemed like it would be a one off deal. When he came back again at Survivor Series, it seemed so last minute that his tights were literally half finished, making them among the ugliest tights ever seen on a wrestler (beyond being half done, I swear someone was playing a rib on the man). When Michaels won the world title in his second return, in a multi man Elimination Chamber match, it seemed like his ego had finally outstripped his common sense, he’d forgotten reality, and he would soon be putting himself in a wheelchair.

Turns out, whether due to divine intervention, good healing genes, luck, or lying about the severity of his back injury, Shawn would turn this return into the second half of his career. And he’d return to his status as “Mr. Wrestlemania” as well, competing at Wrestlemania 19, five years after he supposedly had his last match, with Chris Jericho, who started the feud by claiming that he was ‘The next Shawn Michaels’...and was going to prove it over the OG’s fallen form.

Considering how heated their next feud would be, this seems positively kind.

It says a lot that the Wrestlemania 19 match with Chris Jericho could best be described as “great”, ie, in any other career it would probably be a top 10 of a wrestler’s matches, but with Michaels it might crack his Top 25. The one sour note is the wrong person won. Jericho had been repeatedly undercut ever since arriving at the WWE, and it would keep happening in this match; he would have been better served if he had won. The fact that Shawn won with a victory roll esque rollup instead of knocking Jericho out with his established superkick finisher doesn’t much help; neither does the fact that afterwards, Jericho pretended to hug the man, only to punt him in the balls afterwards. Of all the matches Michaels had in the second part of his career, this is the lone example of the wrong result. Though maybe it had nothing to do with Michaels and everything to do with the WWE never being fully behind pulling the trigger on Jericho.



WRESTLEMANIA XX: SHAWN MICHAELS VS TRIPLE H VS CHRIS BENOIT

There used to be a claim about the Star Trek films, before the reboot with Chris Pine. The odd numbered ones were bad, or not good, and the even numbered ones were good. When the last “New Generation” film, Nemesis, was generally considered “very bad” by many, people invented a new factor: the films with a multiple of 5 were particularly bad, the other film matching that factor being Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, which was apparently Gene Roddenberry finally getting to do a “The Star Trek crew meet God” plot that he’d wanted to do for years. I might be wrong there, so correct me if necessary. Likewise, you’d swear that the tens of Wrestlemanias have main events that are cursed.

Wrestlemania X? Bret Hart vs Yokozuna. Bret’s career was essentially sacrificed by WWE as I laid out, and Rodney “Yokozuna” Anoa’i would die at the age of 34 from his out of control weight. But Bret eventually mending fences with the WWE undercut that curse some. Wrestlemania XXX? The last great true moment WWE might ever have, with Daniel Bryan celebrating overcoming all the odds? Bryan had to give up the title in less then two months, and his second return was again aborted as he was made to retire due to head injuries. But, again, eventually he did return, and even managed to main event Wrestlemania again, before heading to AEW, where hopefully he’ll wind down his career as he sees fit. So again, the curse is undercut.

But nothing is ever going to undo the cursed image of the final shot of Wrestlemania XX, with Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit hoisting world titles in the ring. In less than two years, Guerrero would be dead. A shade over three, and it would have been far better if Benoit had also just suddenly died. It makes me wonder if Wrestlemania 40 is going to have Rami “Sami Zayn” Sebei main event and then in a few years somehow get shipped to Saudi Arabia where he would…let’s just get to the match, shall we?

At the time, it didn’t make a huge amount of sense. Benoit had been getting to the top of the ranks on Smackdown, and winning the Royal Rumble, then decided to use the ‘title match’ to instead challenge Raw World Champion Triple H, hence forcing Benoit to basically ‘start over’ on the “A-Show”, where he didn’t have Paul Heyman backstage backing him. The actual reasoning was that Eddie Guerrero was also getting over huge, and this way, Eddie could claim the Smackdown world title while Benoit challenged for the Raw one. But it seemed like Benoit would just end up the pushed aside third wheel, as Michaels had renewed his feud with Triple H in what I believe would be the second phase of the ‘on again, off again’ 2004-2007 disagreement between the pair before DX reformed, and Michaels inserted himself into the match to make it a Triple Threat.

In the end, the worries were alleviated; Michaels just brought his talents to make it a great match, and it ended as it was desired, and even moreso: Triple H tapping out clean to Benoit in the center of the ring.

The rest is just life’s cruel chance.

WRESTLEMANIA 21: SHAWN MICHAELS VS KURT ANGLE



Or “The match where Shawn actually started calling himself “Mr. Wrestlemania”, IIRC.

Kurt Angle had always been a bit of an odd duck for a top WWE star, his character generally being a dork. But much like Bret Hart, Kurt was so drat good at WRESTLING (and really good at playing a dork, having more innate charisma then Bret) that he got over huge anyway, capable of being a goof or being a dangerous, ankle snapping psycho, especially when he lost a hair vs hair match to Edge and shaved his head for the look he’d more or less have for the rest of his career, to hide his receding hairline. Angle was bald for so long, it’s really weird to see him in the first three years of his pro wrestling career with hair.

The match would be set up in a way that the WWE would use repeatedly once they started doing it: the ‘Royal Rumble disagreement’ match. In this case, Michaels eliminated Angle in the 2005 Rumble, Angle was a sore loser and counter-eliminated Michaels, and then put on an ankle lock to add injury to insult. Michaels challenged Angle to the Wrestlemania match, and it would have an interesting build as Angle would spend it “tearing down Shawn’s past”, which included having a match with Marty Janetty (which was also drat good, showing that even older and despite who knows how many drugs, Marty could still go), defeating him with the ankle lock (the match almost got Jannetty a job with WWE again, before he messed it up, poor drat stupid Marty)) and even bringing back Sherri Martel for her last WWE appearance (outside of her Hall of Fame induction) before her sudden death in 2007, where she helped sing a new take on Michaels’ theme song about Kurt…before Kurt also put her in the ankle lock. Kurt loves twisting those ankles, he sure does.

Michaels, as well as actually first calling himself “Mr. Wrestlemania” at this time, would debut his new style of ‘chaps’ wrestling gear that he’d keep for the rest of his career; why he switched from that to his tights, I don’t know. Maybe it had something to do with leg braces, or maybe he felt it was time for a change. While the match quality was expected to be high, it exceeded most expectations, being without a doubt the best match on the show (and it actually had some decent competition on that front). This time, Shawn would do the job, being trapped in the ankle lock and submitting after a few failed attempts to escape the last time. I suppose if you wanted to be pedantic, unlike Jericho, Angle didn’t NEED the rub, he was more fully over and secure then Jericho was. The irony being, of course, that while Jericho would on and off return to WWE over the next decade plus, Angle would be gone from the WWE by summer of 2006, heading over to TNA where he’d end up spending twice as long as he ever did in the WWE, because he didn’t want to go to rehab.

Man, I just keep finding ways to end these on downers, don’t I?

WRESTLEMANIA XXII: SHAWN MICHAELS VS VINCE MCMAHON



Or “How overbooking and plunder can take what should be a drat bad match and make it, at least, very fun”.

As recent events and posts have shown, Vince McMahon has seen better days. Being in his mid 70’s, having taken god knows how many steroids and never slowing down for decades, is finally catching up to him, it seems. He can’t even take a Stunner properly any more.

16 years ago, at the spring chicken age of 60, Vince decided to start a nearly YEAR LONG FEUD with Shawn Michaels, which ironically began when Shawn said that he and Vince were getting old and they couldn’t keep acting like it was the old days. This would result, among other things, in Vince booking a match between himself and his son Shane against Michaels and “God”, the complete destruction of the Spirit Squad at the hands of DX (sorry Jamesman), and a spot where Vince got his face shoved into Big Show’s exposed and likely very sweaty butt. Because why stop at a good thing when you can run the poo poo into the ground? But, before that, there was the Wrestlemania match.

Hopes were not high. Vince was NUMEROUS steps down from the masterclass competition Shawn had been with since his Wrestlemania 19 return. But much like the Vince adjacent Shane McMahon vs Test Summerslam match, sometimes all you need to cover weaknesses is to throw a ton of poo poo at the wall, and that was exactly what Vince and Shawn did, Shawn using the No Holds Barred stipulation to drag Vince through an entertaining brawl before claiming the win. Of all of Shawn’s matches, this might be the one that truly earns him the moniker of “Mr. Wrestlemania”. It’s a lot easier, after all, to have a fun to watch match with a Scott Hall, or a Bret Hart, or a Chris Jericho, or a Kurt Angle, then with a Vince McMahon. And I’ll give then-Vince credit, he managed to carry his end. I doubt 2006 Shawn Michaels could have done the same with 2022 Vince McMahon.

---

To conclude next post: One last title match, a last match, and a last match. And of course, one drat loving great match.

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Kurt vs Shawn, the best of the listed four matches in this post IMO.

Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Apr 8, 2022

poemdexter
Feb 18, 2005

Hooray Indie Games!

College Slice
Wrestlemania was lame.

Trollologist
Mar 3, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
But it's 2 days of main events! Every match a main event! Stone Cold Steve Austin was there!! And he did the stunner, the greatest move in wrestling history!! A main event!

What's there not to like?

poemdexter
Feb 18, 2005

Hooray Indie Games!

College Slice

Trollologist posted:

But it's 2 days of main events! Every match a main event! Stone Cold Steve Austin was there!! And he did the stunner, the greatest move in wrestling history!! A main event!

What's there not to like?

Roman won and it completely ruined the entire event. Like where do you go from there? Yet another Roman vs. Brock match next PPV? Mysteriously create another character that can take the belt 6 months from now? Who hasn't fought Roman and lost yet? Also Steve Austin should be allowed to crush his own brand beers for hours in the ring until it turns into a swimming pool.

poemdexter fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Apr 5, 2022

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

poemdexter posted:

Wrestlemania was lame.

more like wrestle lame-ia

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
How Vince think it went
https://twitter.com/KK_Burn/status/1511215337848684547

How it actually went

https://twitter.com/jonmoxIeys/status/1510817532055277587

FullLeatherJacket
Dec 30, 2004

Chiunque può essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

wrestlemania 39 is going to be four old men rolling down a hill in a bathtub

Trollologist
Mar 3, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

FullLeatherJacket posted:

wrestlemania 39 is going to be four old men rolling down a hill in a bathtub

Still out drawing AEW 50-1 while top talent jumps ship to go back there.

poemdexter
Feb 18, 2005

Hooray Indie Games!

College Slice

FullLeatherJacket posted:

wrestlemania 39 is going to be four old men rolling down a hill in a bathtub

wrestlemania 39 will be a ton of women's matches and then roman reigns talking for 30 minutes because there's no one left to wrestle him.

Trollologist
Mar 3, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

poemdexter posted:

wrestlemania 39 will be a ton of women's matches and then roman reigns talking for 30 minutes because there's no one left to wrestle him.

It'll be CM Punk. Maybe not 39. Maybe not 40. But it'll be CM Punk.

He'll get tired of AEW, want his WrestleMania main event and Hunter will give it to him. They'll put the Rumble in Chicago and Punk will be #30. On Raw he walks out, cuts some pipe bomb about Hunter and WWE and how this is just a paycheck for him. Then he'll challenge Roman at Mania. They'll talk about how Punk brought him up so he can take him down, blah blah it writes itself.

CM Punk vs Roman Reigns. Bury the roster.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

FullLeatherJacket posted:

wrestlemania 39 is going to be four old men rolling down a hill in a bathtub

El Generico and Ibushi already did it.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Cornwind Evil posted:

When the last “New Generation” film, Nemesis, was generally considered “very bad” by many, people invented a new factor: the films with a multiple of 5 were particularly bad, the other film matching that factor being Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, which was apparently Gene Roddenberry finally getting to do a “The Star Trek crew meet God” plot that he’d wanted to do for years. I might be wrong there, so correct me if necessary.

This is inaccurate. While Roddenberry was paid quite handsomely and was allowed to keep his office on the Paramount lot, and he was allowed to comment on every script draft, he was removed from all decision-making from the Star Trek movies following the calamitous production of The Motion Picture.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Timby posted:

This is inaccurate. While Roddenberry was paid quite handsomely and was allowed to keep his office on the Paramount lot, and he was allowed to comment on every script draft, he was removed from all decision-making from the Star Trek movies following the calamitous production of The Motion Picture.

there's a story about how he watched the Undiscovered Country, was wheeled out of the theater by his wife without saying anything, and died 2 days later.

not saying Star Trek 6 killed him, but it's something to consider.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

pentyne posted:

there's a story about how he watched the Undiscovered Country, was wheeled out of the theater by his wife without saying anything, and died 2 days later.

not saying Star Trek 6 killed him, but it's something to consider.

To be fair, ST6 is overrated and with a lot of the Enterprise crew acting out of character.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

pentyne posted:

there's a story about how he watched the Undiscovered Country, was wheeled out of the theater by his wife without saying anything, and died 2 days later.

not saying Star Trek 6 killed him, but it's something to consider.

By 1991 (when The Undiscovered Country was released), Roddenberry's brain was completely addled from decades of alcohol and drug abuse, and he had suffered a series of strokes. That story about VI is considered apocryphal, though, and is parroted by biographer David Alexander, whose "authorized" biography of Roddenberry is full of complete bullshit; Roddenberry suffered a heart attack at his doctor's office, which is where he died.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
But it happened AFTER he saw it, therefore it killed him.
Just like all those people who got the plague vaccine and then died, died because of the vaccine.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 29 days!
Alex Guinness appeared in three Star Wars movies. Then he died. Coincidence? I think not!

TheSwizzler
May 13, 2005

LETTIN THE CAT OUTTA THE BAG

Timby posted:

Roddenberry suffered a heart attack at his doctor's office, which is where he died.

Of all the places to have a heart attack and die

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

God bless Mick Foley

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Bogus Adventure posted:

God bless Mick Foley

That was my exact reaction to that awful stunner too

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Elephant Ambush posted:

That was my exact reaction to that awful stunner too

Oh, I just post that in every thread

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Trollologist posted:

He'll get tired of AEW, want his WrestleMania main event and Hunter will give it to him

You see, the problem I have with your prediction is the fact that you consider Wrestlemania the current greatest wrestling PPV to exist, instead of the embarrassing sad sack show its been for a while now.

rndmnmbr fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Apr 6, 2022

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 29 days!

rndmnmbr posted:

You see, the problem I have with your prediction is the fact that you consider Wrestlemania the current greatest wrestling PPV to exist, instead of the embarrassing sad sack show its been for a while now.

The problem with their prediction is that they are assuming Hunter, better known as Paul Triple H, has any power or influence or authority to dole out WM main events; when in reality he's been so severely neutered that you might as well call him Reek

TheSwizzler
May 13, 2005

LETTIN THE CAT OUTTA THE BAG
Some random WCW memories:

That Konnan music video that they used as a time filler for a while, I remember they played it 3 times in a single hour once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jS8LaZYlfY

Everything about Glacier, a guy they invented to make action figures of and spent a mint on a laser light show entrance for, that they then jobbed to the low card and never made an action figure of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB3C0fflMxQ

Everything about Norman Smiley. Probably one of the best "pure wrestlers" in the world at the time being used as a "cowardly lion" type character but owning every minute of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iy32CTXGI0

Those Raven vignettes with Sandman where he looks at the camera and says "What a mark"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LTnd0BdgtU

Couldn't find footage but the Junkyard Invitational hardcore match that nearly killed half the roster

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

TheSwizzler posted:

Everything about Glacier, a guy they invented to make action figures of and spent a mint on a laser light show entrance for, that they then jobbed to the low card and never made an action figure of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB3C0fflMxQ

I didn't know Dusty Rhodes was a Mortal Kombat announcer!

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

....is Glacier Lance Storm?

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


And now for the conclusion of Cody Rhodes in WWE. Er... the first time around.

Cody’s Undashing gimmick came to an end after another feud with Randy Orton, who destroyed the mask. Cody moved on to a neat little young vs. old feud with Booker T and eventually won the Intercontinental Championship. He was very insistent about making the IC belt a major thing again and even had it redesigned to look like how it did in 1990.

As IC champ, he feuded with Big Show. A lot has been said about the infamous Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan “18 seconds” match at WrestleMania 28, but while I have no confirmation, I’m pretty sure the original plan was for Cody to suffer that fate. He went into WrestleMania constantly pestering Big Show about how bad his win-loss record was at that show throughout the years and how Big Show never got to have a big WrestleMania moment. Big Show beating Cody for the belt in mere seconds with one knockout punch would have made plenty of sense as payoff. Instead, the two had a very average match that Big Show eventually won.

In the aftermath, we got one of the funniest match endings of all time. Big Show defended the title against Cody in a Tables Match. On paper, there was no way Cody stood a chance. At the end of the match, Big Show was about to reenter the ring, but Cody dropkicked him. Big Show lost his balance just enough to lower from the ring apron and put one foot through a nearby table. Big Show had the most amazing, “Well, gently caress,” expression like he just sat in something and lost the match.

Cody then spent time in the tag team division, teaming with Damien Sandow, who a friend of mine once described as “if Vandal Savage was a professional wrestler.” The two became partners based on being smarmy smart guys and called themselves the Rhodes Scholars. Cody grew a mustache around this time. They had a very lengthy series of matches with tag champs Team Hell No (Daniel Bryan and Kane), but could never actually win the tag titles.

At the Money in the Bank PPV, they did two Money in the Bank ladder matches. One featured all faces, the other all heels. Cody was in the latter, but was treated as a face by comparison. Sandow betrayed him to win the match, causing a feud between the two. To push the idea of how much of a face he was, Cody had his mustache removed.

Which reminds me: Around this time, Cody was absolutely killing it on a weekly YouTube vlog called the JBL and Cole Show. Somehow, this weekly look at the goings on between the two commentators became a bunch of skits involving Cody Rhodes, Wade Barrett, and Clem Layfield (Heath Slater claiming to be JBL’s long-lost nephew). It was pretty hilarious and only fell apart due to Cody and Wade having injuries and not being around.

They even explained away Cody’s mustache on that series by showing Barrett being the one who shaved it. Afterwards, Barrett told Cody that his mustache-based t-shirt was outdated, causing Cody to sigh and say, “Bad News Barrett...” followed by a "BAD NEWS BARRETT" logo being stamped over the screen. This eventually translated into Barrett getting that as his wrestling gimmick, but WWE cut it off at the knees because people would yell, “I’M AFRAID I’VE GOT SOME BAD NEWS!” along with him and you can’t have people cheering for a heel.

WWE is very stupid sometimes.

As for Sandow, his attempt to cash in his Money in the Bank briefcase did not go so well. Even though John Cena had a busted shoulder and Sandow destroyed the briefcase by slamming it repeatedly into said shoulder before demanding a title match, Cena still handily and cleanly defeated him. While incredibly popular, Sandow spent the next year or so being completely poo poo on by WWE until being let go. Then he gained weight and went to TNA. That also did not work in his favor.

Cody had gotten married and they came up with a decent way to write him off for his honeymoon. The whole “Authority screws over Daniel Bryan” storyline was in swing and Cody had mild criticism for champion Randy Orton. And so, Cody was put in a non-title match with Orton where if he lost, he would be fired. Cody lost and gave a really intense promo about how the McMahon and Rhodes families have been at war for years, yelling about Dusty having to wear polka dots and how, “Vince put my brother in facepaint and he’s never been the same since!”

Goldust was also put in the same match against Orton with the same stipulation. He too lost. In the weeks that followed, the Rhodes brothers started to show up illegally to attack the Shield and screw with the Authority. They ended up earning their jobs back via winning against Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins, who were tag champs at the time. In a rematch, they won the titles. It was a really hot time for Cody.

A notable thing happened during this storyline. Cody, Goldust, and Dusty were in the ring doing a promo with the Authority. At one point, Stephanie McMahon tried to talk over Dusty – as she’s wont to do because she’s really bad about overusing her actual authority in storylines – and Dusty put his hand up as a way to tell her to shut up. Apparently, this legit pissed Stephanie off and Dusty was taken off TV because of it.

Cody and Goldust gradually lost their titles and soon started losing a bunch of matches. Cody blamed himself for the streak of losses and swore that he would find a more fitting partner for his brother. After a handful of replacements who didn’t work out, Cody then reinvented himself as Stardust. At the time, it was brilliant. He completely changed his in-ring performance and played off his brother perfectly. He was a fun loon of a character to the point that Goldust happily remarked that he was no longer the weirdest one in the family.

After about nine months, including another tag title reign and ramblings about finding "the cosmic key," the partnership seemed to have run its course. They started to lose a few matches and Stardust was losing his grasp on reality. When Goldust would call him “Cody,” Stardust would lose his poo poo. This was meant to lead to one of the things Cody wanted all along: a WrestleMania program with his brother.

At Fastlane, the PPV before WrestleMania 31, we got Stardust vs. Goldust. The ending had Goldust win via roll-up, but it was all very sloppy and deflating. Even though this was supposed to build towards a bigger bout between the two, Vince decided that he no longer wanted that. Even with WrestleMania having so many drat matches, there was no longer room for Stardust vs. Goldust.

Damien Sandow got screwed even worse with that PPV but... actually, he might be worth an effortpost of his own later.

Sadly, Dusty Rhodes would pass away a few months later. Not counting the Hall of Fame red carpet special, Dusty’s last TV appearance would be during the aforementioned Stardust vs. Goldust storyline that never got its ending.

Without any conclusion to that, there was no real reason for Stardust to exist. Not that Cody didn’t try and make it work. The dude is a big comic fan, so he tried to act like the Frank Gorshin Riddler and make something of it. It led to a SummerSlam tag match where he and King Wade Barrett faced Neville and Arrow star Stephen Amell. Amell actually looked pretty good for a celebrity guest and Cody even got a guest spot on Arrow out of it.

Cody also spent some time with face-painted monsters the Ascension as his henchmen, calling themselves the Cosmic Wasteland. It didn’t go anywhere.

Cody was so frustrated. He really did not want to be Stardust anymore. He kept trying to pitch anything that would let him move on, but writers would ignore him and Triple H would tell him to put on the drat face paint. Triple H even told him not to worry about trying to break out into the main event as the roster needed guys like him to be in the midcard.

Cody finally got his release in May of 2016. He had been Stardust for nearly two years by that point. More importantly, it had been a year and three months since the Goldust feud had fizzled and he was left with no reason to still be Stardust.

WWE oddly removed Stardust from their Jetsons crossover movie, but kept in Stardust’s futuristic robot doppelganger. I don’t know.

Now free to find himself, Cody tweeted a photo online of a list. A list of opponents and events that he would like to deal with now that WWE wasn’t holding him back. Cody was going to prove that he could be a top star.

MrMidnight
Aug 3, 2006

Peggy Edson posted:

....is Glacier Lance Storm?

No but could be his twin for sure. Also lol at generic jobber "Gambler". I think I saw that match when it originally aired too.

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Holy poo poo lmaooooooo

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




PeterCat posted:

To be fair, ST6 is overrated and with a lot of the Enterprise crew acting out of character.

Meet me at Camp Khitomer in 15 minutes if you want an rear end kicking.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Trollologist posted:

It'll be CM Punk. Maybe not 39. Maybe not 40. But it'll be CM Punk.

He'll get tired of AEW, want his WrestleMania main event and Hunter will give it to him. They'll put the Rumble in Chicago and Punk will be #30. On Raw he walks out, cuts some pipe bomb about Hunter and WWE and how this is just a paycheck for him. Then he'll challenge Roman at Mania. They'll talk about how Punk brought him up so he can take him down, blah blah it writes itself.

CM Punk vs Roman Reigns. Bury the roster.

hunter is dead, actually

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



re: Vince Russo

I don't know if this was mentioned in the various write ups about it (and apologies if it was), but there was a brief moment, after the end of WCW and before he went to TNA ... where the WWE hired him back. Made an official announcement on the WWE website and everything.

And the fan backlash was so vocal, that WWE fired him. (Although Russo claims he resigned when he realized things weren't going to work out).

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

Infidel Castro posted:

Meet me at Camp Khitomer in 15 minutes if you want an rear end kicking.

Christopher Plummer will be shouting Shakespeare quotes at you the entire time.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

TheSwizzler posted:


Everything about Glacier, a guy they invented to make action figures of and spent a mint on a laser light show entrance for, that they then jobbed to the low card and never made an action figure of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB3C0fflMxQ


Glacier was lethal in WCW NWO Revenge, he could hit his finisher 5 times before the special meter ran out

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Szyznyk posted:

Christopher Plummer will be shouting Shakespeare quotes at you the entire time.

Cry havok, and let slip the dougs of war.

TheSwizzler
May 13, 2005

LETTIN THE CAT OUTTA THE BAG

Supreme Allah posted:

Glacier was lethal in WCW NWO Revenge, he could hit his finisher 5 times before the special meter ran out

Strike spammin Bischoff was my go-to

Trollologist
Mar 3, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Davros1 posted:

re: Vince Russo

I don't know if this was mentioned in the various write ups about it (and apologies if it was), but there was a brief moment, after the end of WCW and before he went to TNA ... where the WWE hired him back. Made an official announcement on the WWE website and everything.

And the fan backlash was so vocal, that WWE fired him. (Although Russo claims he resigned when he realized things weren't going to work out).

I love this info so much.

It's super interesting that there's maybe 20+ writers working for WWE at any given time and who knows how many over the years, but there's maybe 3 or 4 known writers that anyone can name.
And even then, one of them is so hated, just the idea of having him on your team causes a fan riot.


No one is doing this poo poo to Alex kurtzman (and they should).

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

my favorite russo story is when spike demanded dixie carter fire him from TNA and she did... then secretly rehired him and everyone found out because russo hosed up sending an email lol

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Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

Trollologist posted:

I love this info so much.

It's super interesting that there's maybe 20+ writers working for WWE at any given time and who knows how many over the years, but there's maybe 3 or 4 known writers that anyone can name.
And even then, one of them is so hated, just the idea of having him on your team causes a fan riot.


No one is doing this poo poo to Alex kurtzman (and they should).

I only know Patrice O’Neil, and that’s because he bombed terribly and joked about it on Opie and Anthony.

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