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Tales of Woe
Dec 18, 2004



Ya Boy Kongming! (jp: Paripi Koumei) is an adaptation of the comedy manga by Yuuto Yotsuba and Ryou Ogawa. It's directed by Osamu Honma at PA Works.

It's currently streaming on HIDIVE with new episodes releasing on Thursdays.

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Fate and reincarnation deliver brilliant military strategist, Kongming, from warring, ancient China to Japan’s modern party hot spot in Shibuya City, Tokyo. After a lifetime of battles and military skirmishes, Kongming wished with his last breath to be reborn in a world of peace and prosperity. It’s nearly two millennia later and he’s finding his way in a very different world than that of his past life. When he meets Eiko, an amateur musician with big dreams, the unlikely duo strikes up an even unlikelier friendship. Eiko has street smarts to help Kongming navigate this strange new world, and Kongming will use his strategic mind to help Eiko achieve stardom!

The show seems to be an underdog hit so far (partly thanks to its excellent OP sequence). It's funny, gets a lot of mileage out of its silly genre blend, and doesn't really require any Three Kingdoms knowledge as it gives you the relevant basics.

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Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

drat that OP rules

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
We also need to mention that the opening song Chiki Chiki Ban Ban is a cover of this 2013 Hungarian song Ciki Ciki Bam Bam

Tamba posted:

After some more digging: It's a eurobeat remix of this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRjLbePQg1o

...... which is a cover/remix of the 1969 Japanese version of the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf1Ys4nVtM0

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
so far, the first really lacanian anime since 2019's sarazanmai

note that zhuge liang's alleged innermost desire (apparently so heart-felt that it was granted supernaturally via the will of heaven) is to live in a land of peace and without battle.

and yet, in keeping with lacan's concept of the objet petit a, he seems almost relieved when he awakens in what he believes to be hell. while one might expect that zhuge liang "coming to grips with" the modern world would be a central conflict of the show or at least a recurring theme, the show (wisely) realizes that this element is unimportant: learning about modernity is dispensed with in a single cutaway to a clock and an exasperated sigh from eiko. rather, the idea that kongming might have attained his desire is prima facie unbelievable, and is the real central conflict of the first episode. even with the assistance of the supernatural, we are forbidden from attaining our alleged object of desire (c.f. tarkovsky's stalker). zhuge liang himself is visibly relieved when, in episode 2, he is asked to once again resume the role of strategist, and finds a new "war" to fight, and places for battle to seep back in to the peaceful life that he (allegedly) craved. we get a glimpse of this "true" kongming, and the hollowness of his "wish," when he gleefully remarks on how he, in a different time, would have placed jet jacket's heads on display in ep3.

these lacanian themes (especially that of the "mirror stage" and the development of the imaginary and symbolic orders) are present also in eiko's character. for instance, her own "self doubt" or ambivalence towards fame are perceived of as flaws to be rectified, ironically by supplementing her "authentic" self with the artificiality introduced by the other (in this case, kongming's strategems). it is telling that her stage name is merely the romaji of her own name, an alienation but not a distinctive setting out of another self (think here of how the linguistic sign is manipulated in the lacanian graph of desire).

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
the op is also pretty good imo

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

This show whips

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
When he makes this face you know someone's gonna get wrecked

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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It's a fun, stylish, show and an equally good manga. If I have one complaint, it's that conflicts all get resolved a bit too neatly, but sometimes it's nice to have an ending where everyone ends up satisfied.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Nemo2342 posted:

It's a fun, stylish, show and an equally good manga. If I have one complaint, it's that conflicts all get resolved a bit too neatly, but sometimes it's nice to have an ending where everyone ends up satisfied.

I guess it's the same mechanism as in the original Sherlock Holmes stories where the protagonist always solves the conflicts neatly because those conflicts and even the entire context they happen in were designed exactly so that the protagonist would be able to do that.
I guess the same is true for most Batman stories where the outcome would pretty much be impossible for anyone who didn't have the exact skill set and knowledge base as Batman. The '66 TV show parodied this beautifully: "Luckily I thought to pack the shark repellent in the Batcopter today!"
It's pretty much necessary for an author to pull those tricks when they're writing a character who is a lot cleverer than they are. YBK is at least playful with the idea, like in the most recent episode where the nightclub owner asks "But what if your hunch wasn't right?" and Kongming replies "Oh that just means I didn't have to use that tactic!! :kheldragar: "

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
This show fucks.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I guess it's the same mechanism as in the original Sherlock Holmes stories where the protagonist always solves the conflicts neatly because those conflicts and even the entire context they happen in were designed exactly so that the protagonist would be able to do that.
I guess the same is true for most Batman stories where the outcome would pretty much be impossible for anyone who didn't have the exact skill set and knowledge base as Batman. The '66 TV show parodied this beautifully: "Luckily I thought to pack the shark repellent in the Batcopter today!"
It's pretty much necessary for an author to pull those tricks when they're writing a character who is a lot cleverer than they are. YBK is at least playful with the idea, like in the most recent episode where the nightclub owner asks "But what if your hunch wasn't right?" and Kongming replies "Oh that just means I didn't have to use that tactic!! :kheldragar: "

I desperately want to know what THAT tactic is.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

It’s party time indeed

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

so we all agree that dude with the Glittering Crux idols in the op is Sima Yi right?

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I guess it's the same mechanism as in the original Sherlock Holmes stories where the protagonist always solves the conflicts neatly because those conflicts and even the entire context they happen in were designed exactly so that the protagonist would be able to do that.
I guess the same is true for most Batman stories where the outcome would pretty much be impossible for anyone who didn't have the exact skill set and knowledge base as Batman. The '66 TV show parodied this beautifully: "Luckily I thought to pack the shark repellent in the Batcopter today!"
It's pretty much necessary for an author to pull those tricks when they're writing a character who is a lot cleverer than they are. YBK is at least playful with the idea, like in the most recent episode where the nightclub owner asks "But what if your hunch wasn't right?" and Kongming replies "Oh that just means I didn't have to use that tactic!! :kheldragar: "

one advantage that paripi has so far over other detective stories (broadly conceived; stories about a genius finding inductive solutions to problems), and perhaps this is less true as the story progresses in the manga and this particular well of ideas runs dry, is that kongming is, as a character, limited to solutions inspired by from either the 36 strategems or the romance of the three kingdoms directly. this allows it to more parsimoniously tick the boxes borges lays out in "the labyrinths of the detective story and chesterton", including a "priority of how over who", "an avaricious economy of means" and lastly "a solution that is both necessary and marvelous." especially in anime detectives stories there is a focus on meta cognition (e.g. "i know that he knows that i know that...") and also a refusal to lay out all the terms of the problem for the reader/viewer (lord el melloi would be an example of this: while it's very clearly set up as a detective story, the actual solutions are often quite muddled because the limits of what magic can or cannot do are never particularly clear in the fate universe even in the best of times, and all the more so when they are meant to be obfuscatory).

here the solution space is constrained and the supernatural is (beyond the central premise) eschewed, so it is about purely matching how a strategem might map to a particular situation. so to me it's less like batman with a lucky canister of bat-shark-repellent and more (in keeping with the gadget theme) like a 70s style james bond movie: q hands bond all of his gadgets at the very beginning, and the viewer's inductive task is to see what situation bond will find himself in that requires using the watch with a sleep dart in it.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I guess it's the same mechanism as in the original Sherlock Holmes stories where the protagonist always solves the conflicts neatly because those conflicts and even the entire context they happen in were designed exactly so that the protagonist would be able to do that.
I guess the same is true for most Batman stories where the outcome would pretty much be impossible for anyone who didn't have the exact skill set and knowledge base as Batman. The '66 TV show parodied this beautifully: "Luckily I thought to pack the shark repellent in the Batcopter today!"
It's pretty much necessary for an author to pull those tricks when they're writing a character who is a lot cleverer than they are. YBK is at least playful with the idea, like in the most recent episode where the nightclub owner asks "But what if your hunch wasn't right?" and Kongming replies "Oh that just means I didn't have to use that tactic!! :kheldragar: "

This is very much true, and I will say that I'm totally down with YBK doing the Holmesian thing where everything works out just as he planned for. After all he is supposed to be a nearly-unrivaled strategist who could outwit even the smartest of his rivals (from time to time) so it feels in character.

What I was (poorly) trying to express is that I do kind of dislike that there are almost no repercussions from his actions. Like he totally fucks over that indie band, but in the end they're still walking away thinking he's a cool dude.

Tiny manga spoiler: This will happen with a couple other antagonists as well; Kongming will thwart them and no matter how lovely the antagonist was, everyone will still come out for the better with no real hard feelings.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Nemo2342 posted:

What I was (poorly) trying to express is that I do kind of dislike that there are almost no repercussions from his actions. Like he totally fucks over that indie band, but in the end they're still walking away thinking he's a cool dude.

Naw, Kongming was aware those repercussions were likely to happen and had prepared for it. When he wandered into that music store seemingly on a whim on the way to the festival he was actually gathering the final piece he needed for his stratagem to win them over which was buying the band t-shirt for them to sign, to show his mutual respect for their music. The weird sunglasses he also bought was a fakeout, he didn't end up using them at all. I also wouldn't be surprised the shaky truce with the indie band was laying the foundations for an alliance further down the road as part of his longterm schemes.
The fact that he just happened to know the secret recipe to cure the singer's sore throat when even modern doctors hadn't been able to treat it was a bit of an rear end-pull, not quite a "Batman's shark repellent" moment but getting there.

Ibblebibble posted:

I desperately want to know what THAT tactic is.

Maybe it was something to do with the weird sunglasses???? :cool:
:v:

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!
This show (and it's music) slaps.

Though, the biggest guffaw it's gotten out of me so far was ep 1 where the guy orders a fuzzy navel, but Koumei serves the drink without looking at the guy and smash cuts away before he even finishes the order. That poo poo had me rolling for some reason.

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

The weird sunglasses he also bought was a fakeout, he didn't end up using them at all.

All the outfits that My Boy, Kongming, wears in the intro are canon. He will be slowly collecting them throughout the series, item by item.

Sam Faust
Feb 20, 2015

He wore the sunglasses while handing out drinks though?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Sam Faust posted:

He wore the sunglasses while handing out drinks though?

Ah gently caress of course he did, I'm a dumbass

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008


paragon1 posted:

This show fucks.

This, and also it owns.

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

Kongming forming the Vibes Alliance is some good poo poo

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001
AKA: The Mellow Chips Of The Ring.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



I feel an underappreciated part of the show is how occasionally Eiko busts out a face right out of Sailor Moon, really adds to the sense of 90s nostalgia





Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

I like her cap that says "CAP" on it.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


I like Eiko's style in this. She rocks that coat and shorts style with the caps. Very cool.

psyer
Mar 26, 2013
2 of the songs had the full version released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-bdKXQcGiM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShQU4JHoPVs

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDqXSgPihEk

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

I’d play this Destiny of an Emperor romhack.

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
i was gonna keep doing lacan stuff as a bit but ep4 literally ends with a long monologue about desire, personal pronouns, and ego-formation in context of absent mother/father figures so now i don't know what to think

fairlight
May 18, 2007

Tree Goat posted:

i was gonna keep doing lacan stuff as a bit but ep4 literally ends with a long monologue about desire, personal pronouns, and ego-formation in context of absent mother/father figures so now i don't know what to think

lmao

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Tree Goat posted:

i was gonna keep doing lacan stuff as a bit but ep4 literally ends with a long monologue about desire, personal pronouns, and ego-formation in context of absent mother/father figures so now i don't know what to think

Life's a wonderful mess, isn't it?

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001
https://twitter.com/ksantillus/status/1519131853860577287

Even military geniuses can get parched.

And the art style makes Eiko look like Betty from the Archie series.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost
I've been looking forward to next week's episode ever since they announced the adaptation.

Manga spoiler (safe after you finish this week's episode):



CubeTheory
Mar 26, 2010

Cube Reversal

Ibblebibble posted:

I desperately want to know what THAT tactic is.

I've played a lot of Dynasty Warriors, and let me tell you: it's a fire attack. It's always a fire attack.

He was going to set them on fire.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono
Just wanna say that I cannot wait until we get to that ominous trio of singers that the OP keeps threatening.

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001
The ones with the dirigible? They're pretty obviously the protege's of the festival organizer so it will be interesting to watch them.

Also, did anyone else notice the change in the OP? Before this episode, there was a scene with Eiko up on the stage singing. But this OP had her up on the stage with the rapper. Nice foreshadowing.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost

I Am Fowl posted:

Just wanna say that I cannot wait until we get to that ominous trio of singers that the OP keeps threatening.

They were actually mentioned briefly in episode two they're the enigmatic idol group, Azalea. I'm not sure when we'll actually meet them, but their deal will be explained once the rapper stuff is conclude (so probably next episode).

Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015
It involves Sima Yi. It has to involve Sima Yi.

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Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!
This OP slaps way harder than it has any right to.

I deeply appreciate the Casino Royale reference in it as well.

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