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cjs finally actually throwing some parallelisable stuff at this mac studio and it is unsurprisingly much faster than my lovely old laptop
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DELETE CASCADE posted:has consumer audio tech caught up to consumer photo tech? by which i mean: some nerds used to think the future of (non-pro) photography was for everyone to get a dslr and fancy lenses, when in fact the future is that everyone uses a cellphone with atrocious optics that get corrected in software. so can we get rid of dorky rear end surround sound systems and keep our surprisingly accurate 3d spatial audio with a soundbar, a subwoofer, and a sprinkle of magic? i have heard exactly 1 (one) tech demo soundbar that did surprisingly accurate 3d spatial audio with just a soundbar, a subwoofer, and magic dsp crap. it actually works pretty good. but you have to sit between 80 and 110 centimeters from the soundbar and your head has to be exactly on axis in the middle. if you shift your head just 5 centimeters off axis the whole thing falls apart. they were trying to put a camera in there to do some sort of head tracking to adjust the dsp settings to allow a little bit of movement but ultimately it only works for a single person, you can't have like 2 people watching a movie together. at that point just use headphones imo
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Oct 25, 2022 04:03
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fart simpson posted:if it makes any difference to you, i think the big noticeable jumps in the Home Theater Experience are, roughly in order imo: fwiw i agree with this, when i was working on video stuff i would deal with all sorts of setups and i think that's about right. it's diminishing returns beyond the height channels and while it's noticeable if you know what to look for, on a soundtrack with all sorts of other effects and poo poo going on its not exactly going to stand out. most people probably can't even tell it's there, really. the recommendation for 5.1.4 in that configuration is spot on imo
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its funny because i think height channels are basically just a gimmick when you only have 2 of them but going from 2 to 4 really makes them work because being able to localize along 2 axes up there is huge
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Oct 25, 2022 04:17
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that kind of makes sense, i'll do it up at the next place for sure my couch is backed up to a wall here so there's only so much i can do behind me
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Oct 25, 2022 04:20
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well, i mean, they kind of are a gimmick when theres just "high/low", lol but yeah, it's the localization that makes the difference. similar to the virtualized stuff i think, basically the placement makes the difference just because it was almost invariably mastered for someone front and center. obviously there's a bit of a difference with the virtualization only working because they're very specific directional (and psychoacoustic etc) tricks, but it's not a bad comparison i think
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actually i kinda wonder if 1 front height and 1 rear height channel would work better than a left/right pair. ive never seen anyone set it up that way but i think theres a chance it would be a better use of just 2 heights. otoh maybe theres a reason nobody does it like that
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Oct 25, 2022 04:23
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Jonny 290 posted:that kind of makes sense, i'll do it up at the next place for sure yah same as my couch. i have like 10 cm of clearance from the back of the couch to the wall and i had some surround speakers jammed in there for a while but it wasnt really worth it to so i took them out
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Oct 25, 2022 04:25
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do this when you buy & set up the ranch jonny https://www.dolby.com/about/support/guide/speaker-setup-guides/11.1.8-mounted-overhead-speakers-setup-guide/
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fart simpson posted:actually i kinda wonder if 1 front height and 1 rear height channel would work better than a left/right pair. ive never seen anyone set it up that way but i think theres a chance it would be a better use of just 2 heights. otoh maybe theres a reason nobody does it like that lol i haven't ever seen that either but i think there's a MPEG/SMPTE defined configuration for it
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also, idk if the camera analogy is super accurate. Like, the real magic is in the sensors and more specifically in the computing power behind it. That is definitely present in audio land, though naturally you gotta squint and cock your head a bit to compare a capture system (photogrpahy) to a playback system (home theatre). Speakers is speakers. You just can't cheese them. you cannot get usable balanced bass out of a 3" woofer. However, the tech behind them, starting with super-efficient and accurate class D amps, back to shitloads of DSP in the receiver, connected to the media device via HDMI cabling with fuckoff-gigabits-per-second of capacity, playing a nearly perfect codec of a movie that shows eight million pixels between 24 and 60 times a second.....yeah, there's a tremendous amount of technological advance. Cobbling together this thousand buck system ive put together back in even 1990 would have been like a half million dollars or more.
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fart simpson posted:do this when you buy & set up the ranch jonny how do you even build a system like this. are there even receivers that can run that many or what the hell do you do there. i mean obviously the amps are no big deal, you can just buy more, but what does one process the media through to pull out all the driving signals for all those
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in a processing sense i think it's an accurate enough comparison to get the point across lol like, there's almost no way i'd use a phone for something professional unless i was really, really in a jam and didn't have anything else on me at the time. does that make it unacceptable for like 95%+ of the population? hell no, it's good enough same thing with audio really, although for whatever reason people seem to be more discerning there. you might be underestimating the absolute crap most people use lol
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also i've had to deal with dolby reps from time to time and they will push some absolutely bonkers impractical poo poo lol it usually comes around to "  we're not the ones building it"
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Jonny 290 posted:how do you even build a system like this. are there even receivers that can run that many or what the hell do you do there. i mean obviously the amps are no big deal, you can just buy more, but what does one process the media through to pull out all the driving signals for all those https://www.jblsynthesis.com/products/electronics/SDP-75-.html?dwvar_SDP-75-_color=Black-US-Current&cgid=electronics
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hell yeah hope these stock options pop
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actually i dont know if theres any receivers that have that many channels built in. the only systems ive seen set up for crazy numbers of channels like that are doing separate preamp + amp like the old caveman days
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bookmark this jonny. its the cheapest processor i found that can do 19 channels of atmos decoding. amps sold separately, $7500 https://www.crutchfield.com/p_973AVM90/Anthem-AVM-90.html
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lmao see the dolby people are loving crazy
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Ended up loving around with a little melody for... 4 hours without realizing it. Think I'm catching the bug again.
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lol if you dont just listen to music on your iphone speakers
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I listen to music in a big bed with my wife.
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I put the subwoofer under the bed and play the map music from Blast Corps to get the motor running
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i appreciate that you used normal pizza pepperoni instead of the trendy little ones that curl up into grease cups exactly what is wrong with tasty little greasebowls
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They're not only trendy, they were always good
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Ciaphas posted:made a pizza tonight gently caress that looks delicious. drat.
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psiox posted:exactly what is wrong with tasty little greasebowls i love the crunch but not so much the grease tbh
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i do not listen to "music"
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Cat Face Joe posted:i do not listen to "music" 
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CPColin posted:I put the subwoofer under the bed and play the map music from Blast Corps to get the motor running time to get moving "kreatrock"
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How does that chart work? Do you have to listen to everything at a given level to be from there, or just one of the genres? Like, I mostly listen to level 0 stuff, but also ambient and folk
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Sagebrush posted:How does that chart work? Do you have to listen to everything at a given level to be from there, or just one of the genres? Like, I mostly listen to level 0 stuff, but also ambient and folk lol that "classic rock" makes you an "outsider"
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Also that jazz is level 1. I'd say that in most places having a bunch of jazz records makes you pretty weird
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i learned about height channels from this thread im still using the speakers built into my tv
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jazz is devil music used by black people to lure white women to dance with them after smoking reefer cigarettes.
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that reefer is dangerous stuff. turns white men into savage beasts. we must outlaw it immediately!
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Achmed Jones posted:i learned about height channels from this thread i am legit surprised the speakers in my LG are good enough they've really gotten better from the old days of absolute trash. the only thing im missing is some bass so some scenes in movies kinda get blown out. ill fix that later tho since it's not important and i wanna invest in a good setup
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cjs: back at it, long weekend was nice and the weather was incredible. I’m pretty drat tired tho lol
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Achmed Jones posted:i learned about height channels from this thread  Achmed Jones posted:im still using the speakers built into my tv i have a receiver and two bookshelf speakers (no sub) which are pretty good
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