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The Fourth of July is in the rearview mirror, which means that it's time to talk FANTASY FOOTBALL again! I've stolen most of this from the 2020 thread, which stole it from Beer's 2019 thread. It's bad and you shouldn't play it! 2021 Thread  Free League Hosting Services
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Twitter Follows Here's an updated twitter list for fantasy: Beat Writer Aggregator @32BeatWriters Real NFL Guys @AlbertBreer @gregcosell @mortreport @AdamSchefter @rapsheet Football Guys @Sigmundbloom - Produces the excellent "Audible" podcast. My favorite follow. @MattWaldman - Writes the Rookie Scouting Portfolio. I'm not sure he sleeps. @JeneBramel - MD and Football Guy, excellent for injury updates on gameday morning and IDP advice The Fantasy Footballers - some people don't like them (too much fluff) but they are insanely accurate @JasonFFL @AndyHolloway @ffhitman CBS Sports @DaveRichard - might be the nicest guy in fantasy @JameyEisenberg - doesn't sleep @HeathCummingssr - contrarian takes @CTowersCBS - mix baseball/football @AdamAizer - Trash takes ESPN @MikeClayNFL - The only one worth your time on their godawful analysis network @StephaniaESPN - ok, Stephania Bell is good, too. NFL @GreggRosenthal - Former Rotoworld writer, great real life football knowledge @AdamRank - Fantasy Analyst @MarcasG - Fantasy Analyst @MichaelFFlorio - Fantasy Analyst NBC Sports Edge (current and former) @LordReebs @JoshNorris @EvanSilva - The GOAT @RotoPat - The guy who writes the funny Rotoworld blurbs @CDCarter13 - FF #taeks and owning the ilbs Yahoo! @scott_pianowski @AndyBehrens - boring @LizLoza_FF @MattHarmon_BYB - The Reception Perception guy. @YahooNoise - Accurate/ballsy, but can take over a twitter feed Misc. Writers/PFF Guys @friscojosh - The Airyards Guy. Kind of an rear end in a top hat but has great WR insight @LateRoundQB - JJ Zachariason, Editor-in-Chief at Fanduel & Numberfire @ChrisRaybon - DFS Expert, but gives some good insight @ScottBarrettDFB - Head PFF Fantasy Analyst, extraordinarily good info @MikeTagliereNFL - lead NFL Writer, Fantasypros (RIP Tags) @Allinkid - Lead Writer, The Athletic Fantasy @4for4_John - from 4for4, most accurate guy the last couple years @TJHernandez - DFS Director, 4for4 @HarrisFootball  Introduction - lifted directly from Beer because this is all good stuff! Fantasy football does something amazing for sports fans in that it can make any game interesting. Two 0-5 teams across the country from you squaring off? Well if you have one of their quarterbacks, you will be pounding the table and screaming at the game until they kick you out of the bar. Basically, you put together a team of individual players from around the league, then score points based on their performance on the football field. Lots of stuff can score points, like gaining yards and catching passes, so there's room for excitement during every single play. The cycle of an NFL week provides a great framework for fantasy football. Most fantasy leagues are set up where each player plays another every week, and whoever has the highest total once the Monday night game ends gets the win. The playoffs happen during the last few weeks of the NFL regular season (although week 17 is a severely unpopular week for fantasy championships, because playoff-bound teams often rest their best players.) Pretty much, if you like football and watching football, you will most likely love fantasy. If you never have before, give it a try. The Basics A league consists of several owners (typically 12), one of whom is the commissioner who manages the league. At the beginning of the season each owner drafts a roster of players. Rosters are typically fifteen players and consist of starters and a bench of reserve players to replace starters who are injured or on bye weeks. A typical starting lineup that will mirror NFL positions and consist of 1 Quarterback (QB), 2 Running Backs (RB), 3 Wide Receivers (WR), 1 Tight End (TE), a Place Kicker (PK), and a Team Defense/Special Teams (DST). Each week your players will score points for your team according to their performance. Scoring can be very simple or incredibly complicated depending on the league, but many leagues use a standard scoring system where passing provides 1 point per 25 yards, 4 points per passing touchdown, and -1 point per interception and receiving and rushing gain 1 point per 10 yards, 6 points per receiving/rushing touchdown. Field goals are typically worth 3 points, and team defense scoring depends on a number of factors including sacks, interceptions, points allowed, defensive touchdowns, etc. Many leagues will use different scoring systems depending on the preferences of the players. One significant difference is PPR, or Points Per Reception, where wide receiver are awarded a set number of points (typically 0.5 or 1) for every reception. The league season will go for a set number of weeks during the regular NFL season. Typically the last two to four weeks of the regular season are reserved for the playoffs, and most leagues end on the sixteenth week because many NFL teams will sit their star players in Week 17 if the outcome doesn't matter. Variations There are many roster variations that different leagues will use. Many leagues use a flex position where different positions can fit into a slot. The most common form of flex position replaces the third WR position in the standard lineup above with a WR/RB/TE flex position. That means that any Wide Receiver, Running Back, or Tight End player could be used in that slot. Leagues where that flex position allows a QB are typically called "2 QB leagues" because quarterbacks typically score far more points that other players. Other leagues utilize IDP or Individual Defensive Players instead of Team Defenses. IDP players score points for tackles, sacks, interceptions, touchdowns, etc. Many leagues are several years old and include rules to provide continuity between seasons. In contrast to a redraft league where every player is drafted at the start of each season some leagues use keepers where team owners are allowed to keep a set number of players per year. Other leagues are dynasty leagues where the entire roster is kept from year to year. Typically dynasty leagues use much deeper benches and include a rookie draft. The Draft Every league starts with a draft, where team owner pick their players. There are two major types of draft; the snake draft and the auction draft. A snake draft is where every owner receives a draft position and then picks a player in order for a number of rounds equal to the roster size. It's called a snake draft because the order "snakes" back and forth each round. In other words the owner who picked last in the first round will pick first in the second. Auction drafts are where each team owner has a set budget and they bid for each player until everyone's roster has been filled. There are numerous drafting strategies out there, but ultimately the goal of any draft is to get the maximum amount of value for your players. Trades and the Waiver Wire While drafting is essential, the most successful teams typically win by taking advantage of the waiver wire and trades. Trading is precisely what it sounds like; players offer each other trades that are accepted or rejected. Many leagues incorporate an approval process to prevent collusion where two players will deliberately stack one team and then split the winnings; there is no universe where Adrian Peterson is worth Mark Sanchez. Depending on the league trading may either be nonexistent or commonplace. Many leagues will end trading several weeks before the playoffs begin. The NFL has hundreds of players and most of them will not be on a team roster. As players are injured or fall out of favor team owners will be forced to pick up free agents to replace them. To do this they use the waiver wire. Each week individual players are locked the moment their team starts their game. For the duration of this "waiver period" owners who wish to claim a free agent submit a "waiver claim." Owners who wish to make more than one waiver claim must indicate the priority of their claims. At the end of the waiver period (typically a day or two after the beginning of the new week) the league software checks the standings of the teams. Going in reverse order (worst standing to highest) the teams get their highest priority claim. If multiple teams have submitted waiver claims for the same player it will go the team with the lowest standing, and the other teams will get their lower priority claims. After the waiver period has en`ded every player is available to be claimed immediately. The waiver wire is extremely important. Alfred Morris, the 5th ranked running back of 2012, was a free agent in most leagues until the first week. Many owners use the waiver wire to "stream" defenses and other players based on that week's match. Advice: Know your drat league settings and make a plan before the draft. Does your league give a point per reception? Raise your valuation of pass catching running backs and those low-highlight receivers that get a bunch of targets. Are you in a league that gives bonus points for drafting players that are literally the worst human being? Whoever is quarterbacking for Tampa Bay should get a boost. So many times, people sit down at a draft and ask, "is this 4 point or 6 point passing TDs?" Don't do that: If you're going to do no research beforehand, just get a Beer Sheet and follow it, that's exactly what they're invented for. Here is a list of tips from Beer: A very special rant about auctions: Don't take auction advice from analysts who primarily do drafts. Auctions take longer and how they go is greatly dependent upon the people involved. So analysts only have time to get in a few auctions each season, and it's usually with the same batch of other analysts they work with. This means that often the advice they give has only been shown to work a few times with a pre-set group of owners. Drunk Nerds is the best in the business at salary cap drafts. If you're looking for some tips as a first-time auctioner, or you're wondering how the meta has shifted for this year, don't Google it. Just hit us up here in the Armchair Quarterback. A WAY TO GET BETTER ADVICE ON KEEPERS FROM THE THREAD Put as many rules as possible in your questions. Include league size, keeper rules (cost, how long can you keep, etc), rules (4 points for TD, PPR, etc) Spoeank posted:This should help get you caught up with major fantasy stuff That should be everything. If it isn't then make your own OP next time! Spoeank fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Aug 29, 2022 |
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BEERSHEETS ARE AVAILABLE https://footballabsurdity.com/beersheet-request-form/ Spoeank fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jul 24, 2022 |
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Jul 8, 2022 13:53
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Excellent OP, thank you Spoeank!
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mind throwing a link to last year's thread in the OP for reference? Thanks for the new one!
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Poque posted:mind throwing a link to last year's thread in the OP for reference? Thanks for the new one! Added to the OP!
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Thanks papa
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Good thread title. Solid OP.
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What’s the status on Darwin Thompson? Hurry my draft is in 30 minutes!
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This is the year of Darwin Thompson
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RCarr posted:This is the year of
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I got a chance to 3peat in one of my dynasty leagues this year!
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Made the playoffs in all 3 redraft leagues last year and took exactly zero championships. Hell yes I'm bitter.
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I won my first ever dual championship last year thanks to my close friend JaMarr Chase.
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I won a redraft league by having a roster full of chargers, Herbert, Ekeler, Keenan Allen, and Gerald Everett lol. My playoff MVP in both leagues was Rashaad Penny
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Guy didn't even add his own great fantasy football podcast to the OP. That's just selfless.
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Can anyone tell me where I can go to see a sample of default salaries for dynasty leagues in MFL? I'm just trying to determine if some positions are more expensive than others generally.
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kiimo posted:Can anyone tell me where I can go to see a sample of default salaries for dynasty leagues in MFL? I'm just trying to determine if some positions are more expensive than others generally. Depends hugely on your scoring, contract lengths if you have them, salary caps if you have them, and more... and there's not really a "default" scoring for dynasty, it's all over the place. At least, there wasn't five years ago when I was trying to find the same sort of thing for our league. I think salaries will probably evolve organically within each league depending on each owner's analysis and the group meta regardless. In our league, some positions (elite young WRs, for example) are much higher salaried than others, but that's partially due to several monster bids on free agents over the last few years, and maybe a perception of longevity and/or scarcity at the position. Here's our league if you'd like to pore over current rosters, with the caveat that nobody's been allowed to drop players since a week after the superbowl: https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2022/options?L=79286&O=07 We have a $250 salary cap and salaries go up by 10% (minimum $1) annually, and we don't have contracts to limit how long you can hold a player.
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MacheteZombie posted:I won a redraft league by having a roster full of chargers, Herbert, Ekeler, Keenan Allen, and Gerald Everett lol.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Wasnt Everett on the Seahawks last year? Lol oh so he was. My bad I was just looking at my roster on yahoo earlier because I knew I had a decent number of Chargers last year.
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One of my leagues goes through keepers in a 2-1-0 format where we keep two players the first year, one player the next, then a clean slate. There are no penalties or rounds lost when keeping players. Running this by y’all as a thought experiment: What if you could trade players for draft picks (or other players) in keeper years after the league year and keep your keepers BUT this would only be allowed after you paid your league dues for the upcoming season? Basically this would allow you to gain draft picks for assets that you would lose anyway when keepers are locked in and it would ensure that someone doesn’t dump their team and then not pay league dues for that year. With the caveat: If you trade draft picks, you have to trade an equal number of picks so that no one ends up with more draft picks than the software could use. So if you bring in a first rounder, you'd have to send out a third (or whatever round) round pick as well. That way at the draft everyone has the same number of keepers and draft picks.
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Sataere posted:Guy didn't even add his own great fantasy football podcast to the OP. That's just selfless. This year alone they've had Micharl Fabiano and JT O'Sullivan as guests. Just last week I tuned in and they were talking shop with Heath Cummings. It's really leveled up since they dropped that one dead-weight cohost last year
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Silly Burrito posted:One of my leagues goes through keepers in a 2-1-0 format where we keep two players the first year, one player the next, then a clean slate. There are no penalties or rounds lost when keeping players. We trade draft picks in our keeper league. I thought every league did  there’s not much to it.
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RCarr posted:We trade draft picks in our keeper league. I thought every league did You can trade draft picks, but I’m talking more of trading last year’s assets that you won’t have on your team after the limited number of keepers lock.
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The 2022 theme of salary cap drafts, at least as the land lies now, is Savings into Speculation. There are a number of talented WR2s who have had significant upgrades this year: an offensive scheme improvement (Sutton, Jeudy, Gage) or a QB experience boost (Robinson, Smith-Schuster, Mooney, etc) or a brunch-esque marriage to their college QB (Hollywood Brown and... I think that's about it). These high-floor, high-ceiling WRs number in the double digits. If you wait until the WR2 market crashes you can get 4 of those guys for about $30 total (many times even less), which is like $10-$20 less than other managers are paying for a single top 6 WR1. The WR2 Market Always Crashes. Don't pay up for a high end WR, just spend that future savings elsewhere. Seriously: last year I did 120 mocks with all/almost all humans and a top 24 WR went for 50% of listed value or less in 119 of them (most of the time it was WR18 or better). The one time it didn't, I was streaming the draft on Twitch and was constantly declaring "huh this is going to be that one unicorn time the market isn't going to crash." Sadly I didn't think to archive that footage but it's not rocket surgery: Lots of managers were sandbagging and not competing for high-end players. This year WR2s are deeper than ever: Increased supply leads to decreased prices. I'm seeing the market crash around WR14 in 10-team and WR16 in 12-team salary cap drafts. The QB market has finally descended the point where many salary-cap vets were saying it should have been years ago. Maybe Josh Allen might fetch mid-$30s but a top QB you love will fall into your hands for less than $20. The RBs are less top-heavy than in previous years. Jonathan Taylor scored the lowest season total of fantasy points of any #1 overall RB since Devonta Freeman 6 years ago. Remember being excited to draft 2017 Devonta Freeman? No, because nobody was. Austin Ekeler aside, the next 3 guys (Henry, Cook, CMC) have injury and workload concerns, after that it's the uncertain change in fantasy-relevant offense for Najee and Chubb. So I'm finding more and more managers competing for back-end top 12 guys, which drives their prices higher but not nearly as high as the $60 we are used to auto-paying for our RB1s. So what do we do with all these savings? Depth and TE positional advantage. I've already outlined the deep WR2 strategy I'm advocating this year. I'd also like to mention that Travis Kelce is regularly going for well under $50. Travis Kelce has finished as a top 2 TE every year since Javonte Williams was a sophomore... in high school. And there's no Tyreek in KC this year. In addition, there are some awesomely "boring" RB2s in '22. If you've ever tuned into my salary cap streams or articles you'll know that I use "boring" as a compliment: Low ceiling lowers demand which increases value. Josh Jacobs has Drake and a new guy who should vulture goal line work. Yet the Raiders' scheme virtually dictates Jacobs will get 1,000 yards and some good pass-catching. But because his ceiling is so low, Jacobs regularly goes for $20-$25, even in my 12-team (all or almost all human) mocks. That's a killer price for a third RB, let alone one who might start next to your RB1. Ezekiel Elliott, Saquon Barkley, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, Conner, Mitchell, Akers, and Gibson regularly go for $15-$25 if nominated late enough. It's easier than ever to bench a couple of soild RB2s for byes and injury depth. A deep, solid RB and WR bench, huge advantage at tight end, a top 6 QB, and a reasonable shot at the next year's Cooper Kupp/Ja'marr Chase can all be yours if you just time it right. One more thing: People are losing their poo poo about Buffalo's defense. It makes no sense and I'm just choosing to find it hilarious, but Buffalo's defense has gone for as much as 7 and the mode is $4 and the mode has happened 50% of the time. 50% of the time people are winning Buffalo's pretty-good-but-not-all-world defense for $4 freaking dollars. Not really something to strategize around, it's just something that makes me laugh, alongside nominating DeShaun Watson and Rob Gronkowski early if there is one bot in the draft. I'll chime in with any market trends or developments as the preseason picks up. I've also had interest in a startup redraft salary cap league, so I'll post that here if I decide to fire it off. I love salary cap!! Drunk Nerds fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jul 9, 2022 |
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Other availables: Chris Olave Jahan Dotson Christian Watson Marquez Valdez-Scantling Rachaad White John Metchie Kenny Pickett It's a superflex so Kenny is tempting but I already have two QBs. MVS is tearing up OTAs and I have this inkling that he's going to be the #1 WR in KC. The other rookies don't really excite me. We start one WR, one RB and three flexes. never loving mind James Cook was snaked from me in the pick right before mine. God now I know he's going to be a star. kiimo fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jul 9, 2022 |
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Silly Burrito posted:You can trade draft picks, but I’m talking more of trading last year’s assets that you won’t have on your team after the limited number of keepers lock. I've seen keeper leagues do something similar. I think it makes for a more dynamic league and keeps losing teams engaged. kiimo posted:
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kiimo posted:
James Cook is this years CEH in my opinion. Him going that early is bonkers to me. I'm assuming you made your pick but I'd definitely go Olave, Dotson before Cook. That seems very early for MVS too, even though I'm a huge MVS truther.
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In superflex I'd be taking Pickett before any of the other options on that list even if he's extremely uninspiring
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CEH is slow as poo poo. At least Cook is fast. Cook averaged 6.5 ypc in college and 9.4 yards per catch and didn't drop ONE loving PASS in 78 targets. Zeus ate up all the usage plays at Georgia too and has the two torn ACLs to show for it. But yeah I took MVS because I dislike Dotson and Olave for various dynasty reasons.
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kiimo posted:I dislike Dotson and Olave for various dynasty reasons.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Can I ask about why you dislike Dotson? I'm not big on Olave either, especially on the Saints, but I liked Dotson's tape that I've seen. Is Washington ever getting it's poo poo remotely together and Scary Terry have me concerned about his fantasy viability. Edit: for the record I like Dotson from a talent standpoint Ches Neckbeard fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jul 9, 2022 |
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It's all situational and has everything to do with Washington. Carson Wentz is his QB, Scott Turner is his coordinator, he's in a crowded receiver room and if someone is lucky enough to get a pass from Wentz I think it will be McLaurin or Curtis Samuel. Dotson runs great routes and has good hands though I could be wrong.
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The Wild Man of YOLO posted:In superflex I'd be taking Pickett before any of the other options on that list even if he's extremely uninspiring What about Ridder
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kiimo posted:What about Ridder Might consider him over Metchie but none of the others. I think Atlanta will draft a QB high next year.
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The Wild Man of YOLO posted:In superflex I'd be taking Pickett before any of the other options on that list even if he's extremely uninspiring Yeah. Especially if you only have 2 QBs lol
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kiimo posted:CEH is slow as poo poo. At least Cook is fast. Who the hell knows how it'll play out because it's fantasy after all, but man I really don't like that pick. Pickett, Cook, Olave, Dotson all look better long term than MVS, whatever warts they have, and probably better short term too. MVS is a nobody on a cheap, easy to get out of contract, in a fairly crowded pass catching room.
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MVS has easily looked like the best receiver in OTAs on the Chiefs so far. He is running entire route trees instead of just deep ones like he was running in Green Bay, he has Mahomes as a quarterback even though that’s not technically an upgrade. He’s always graded out well in advance stats and somebody is going to pick up the slack for Tyreek Hill. I have Mecole Hardman and MVS now so I have two chances of having that be the guy. Juju hasn’t done poo poo in camp or this offseason so far and it’s really hard for rookies to get going in Andy Reid schemes so it might be a while for Skyy Moore. You could be right but MVS looks better from a Chiefs insider point of you than it does from the outside probably. Or maybe I’m just a homer. Anyway it’s just a rookie draft second rounder
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kiimo posted:What about Ridder I took him at the 1.11 in my rookie draft ahead of the likes of Jahan Dotson and Christian Watson.
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kiimo posted:MVS has easily looked like the best receiver in OTAs on the Chiefs so far. He is running entire route trees instead of just deep ones like he was running in Green Bay, he has Mahomes as a quarterback even though that’s not technically an upgrade. He’s always graded out well in advance stats and somebody is going to pick up the slack for Tyreek Hill. I have Mecole Hardman and MVS now so I have two chances of having that be the guy. Juju hasn’t done poo poo in camp or this offseason so far and it’s really hard for rookies to get going in Andy Reid schemes so it might be a while for Skyy Moore. Totally fair, I've paid no attention to off season reports. And yeah it's just a 2nd so nbd  Hopefully I'm wrong, I have MVS in a couple dynasty leagues (but he was on the bubble for cuts!).
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kiimo posted:MVS has easily looked like the best receiver in OTAs on the Chiefs so far. He is running entire route trees instead of just deep ones like he was running in Green Bay, he has Mahomes as a quarterback even though that’s not technically an upgrade. He’s always graded out well in advance stats and somebody is going to pick up the slack for Tyreek Hill. I have Mecole Hardman and MVS now so I have two chances of having that be the guy. Juju hasn’t done poo poo in camp or this offseason so far and it’s really hard for rookies to get going in Andy Reid schemes so it might be a while for Skyy Moore. I'm right there with you. MVS didn't drop any passes in 2021 either. And his catches and yards would have gone way, way up had Rodgers been able to find him deep. I think we were playing the Lions (I'm a Packer fan) and Rodgers missed MVS on three or four deep balls in just a series or two - and judging from Rodgers' reaction afterward it looked like he knew they were all his fault as well. The fact he was only ever a burner in Green Bay I think more had to do with Davante being as dominant as he was and just not really getting the reps he needed to make the next step. Rodgers has said this offseason that "80% of plays were drawn up with Davante in mind" that doesn't leave a whole lot of meat on the bone for a guy like MVS trying to flesh out his route tree. I'm not sold he can be a true WR1 on the Chiefs but I'm hopeful he can become a player similar to Tyler Lockett was with Russ. I think JuJu could step up and be the guy in KC but after getting MVS at an ADP of 150-200 all summer in best ball I'm really committed to him at this point. fennesz fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jul 9, 2022 |
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