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Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007




The Patient is a Hulu miniseries from the creators of The Americans that premiered today, August 30th with two 21ish minute episodes. A serial killer (Domnhall Gleeson) imprisons his therapist (Steve Carell) so he can tell him the truth during sessions to try to "get better."

Fairly simple premise, but so far it has proved interesting which is why I made the thread.

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Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007


Just got done watching the first two episodes. What has been set up is much more compelling than the previews lead me to believe. Long live 30 minute dramas.

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010
I enjoyed this.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

holy poo poo this is good. really wish it all came out at once

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Yeah this was pretty loving fun. Gleeson's really good in this, (though I didn't expect otherwise tbh).

There's something about the way he keeps providing high quality takeaways that I find really, really funny.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Open Source Idiom posted:

Yeah this was pretty loving fun. Gleeson's really good in this, (though I didn't expect otherwise tbh).

There's something about the way he keeps providing high quality takeaways that I find really, really funny.

Wasn't it more or less said that his day job is health inspector? I would expect those guys to know all the great restaurants.

Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007


The Vosgian Beast posted:

Wasn't it more or less said that his day job is health inspector? I would expect those guys to know all the great restaurants.

Yeah he's a health inspector which definitely plays into his food thing. Dunno how much I would dig a moussaka gyoza, thoug.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
I'll watch this just for the novelty of a 21 minute drama.

Oh, and it's good just in general too.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Wasn't it more or less said that his day job is health inspector? I would expect those guys to know all the great restaurants.

Oh yeah, I got that part.

I meant more the absurdity of a prisoner being given high quality food to eat, only it's a) always in lovely takeaway containers and b) usually in the form of cold leftovers. The yuppie foodie angle is very funny to me.

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy
Just watched the third episode. Enjoyed it.

There’s something really weird about the way this show watches. It’s compelling, but despite it being sitcom-length which is unlike nearly any other drama I’ve seen (except for The Bear I guess), when it’s over I feel okay with that, not like I need more. Maybe because there’s only one plot line and no B stories?

Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007


Just watched the fourth. It's almost entirely Steve Carell on his own and it's dumb how well it works. I do like having no idea where the show is going to go.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I wanna know what the deal is with this piss.

A pisstery, if you will.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Open Source Idiom posted:

I wanna know what the deal is with this piss.

A pisstery, if you will.

He went in there with the Dunkin cup and came back out without it. I think he pisses in his Dunkin cup all day, then pours it out at night. Probably something to do with his dad

Danzel Glovington
Mar 16, 2006

I'm too old to bury my son!

blue squares posted:

He went in there with the Dunkin cup and came back out without it. I think he pisses in his Dunkin cup all day, then pours it out at night. Probably something to do with his dad

I know it's dumb and I'd kind of not enjoy if they went with this but during the pee I was imagining some Dr. House-esque discovery of like his pituitary gland or something causing homicidal and excessive piss symptoms. Never considered he was dumping stored whizz once a day. Some kind of psychotherapeutic OCD treatment could be something that comes up later.

Even if the tinkle duration isn't connected to the killing I'm sure it'll still be integral somehow. Like in mission impossible when they know exactly how long it takes that guy to poo poo so they can plan their wire drop laser thing. Our victims could somehow incorporate the piddle timer as part of an escape plan or something.

Something_Hazy
Sep 21, 2019
I thought it was supposed to illustrate his gradual loss of control over his own behavior. I took him stopping mid stream as him exerting control over his impulses. In the most recent episode where he is obviously on the edge of committing another murder he doesn't stop mid stream, just keeps going (which Steve Carrell's character appears to notice)

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I really like this show but I think it would have been a better binge which is one of the first times ever I can remember thinking that

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Jesus that ending. Not much more to say!

Something_Hazy
Sep 21, 2019
Great episode. So I feel like the show has been hinting at this but the porn Sam looks up seems to confirm that his relationship with mother is definitely more hosed up than she is letting on. Seems like we may be getting into Oedipal territory here?

Danzel Glovington
Mar 16, 2006

I'm too old to bury my son!

Danzel Glovington posted:


Our victims could somehow incorporate the piddle timer as part of an escape plan or something.

HE USED THE PIDDLE TIMER!

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Danzel Glovington posted:

HE USED THE PIDDLE TIMER!

You win!

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

That was another good episode, thankfully a lot less dark than the previous.

Dr. Strauss is lucky that Sam ended up as a food inspector, his meals could have been a lot worse.

https://twitter.com/LxxLawliet/status/1574487281020260352

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy
I guess I never thought about the Jewish faith having their own analogue of crappy Christian praise band music but hell, of course they do

I liked that Alan is starting to take some actions towards escaping finally. That coupled with the flashes of holocaust imagery tell me he’s feeling truly persecuted and ready to fight now

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
Wasn't sure to share in here or the IOSM thread, but have this review that always comes up first for some reason whenever I google The Patient. Teenagers start watching The Office and the next thing you know they support black lives matter.

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy

Crazy person posted:

yeah yeah, I’m crazy… whatever…

Yeah. Yeah. You are crazy. Specifically.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

I thought the stuff about his son becoming an ultra orthodox jew and the main character interpreting it as joining a cult was interesting.

It lead me to watch this documentary about Lev Tahor, which enlightened me to the fact that there really are orthodox jews that are definitely cults with extremely abusive practices and leaders, which is something I hadn't really thought about in the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnyx6pqb-zM

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

Annabel Pee posted:

Wasn't sure to share in here or the IOSM thread, but have this review that always comes up first for some reason whenever I google The Patient. Teenagers start watching The Office and the next thing you know they support black lives matter.



So, thirty years ago, Gunsmoke (1955) led directly to the Columbine shootings (1999), which in turn led to Joker (2019), which caused Black Lives Matter (2013) and riots (44 BC). After which, teens get obsessed with The Office (2005) and, in turn, those same teenagers start watching The Patient (2022).

All of which culminates in empathising with the mentally ill, the worst thing possible.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Can someone who's smarter than me connect the subplot about Carrell's concerns with his son's turn to a orthodoxy to the serial killer plot? Other than maybe some stuff about fathers and sons and such...? I'm struggling to see how they inform each other. (Haven't seen the last two episodes yet, but I'm not bothered about spoilers when it comes to this info.)

Otherkinsey Scale posted:

So, thirty years ago, Gunsmoke (1955) led directly to the Columbine shootings (1999), which in turn led to Joker (2019), which caused Black Lives Matter (2013) and riots (44 BC). After which, teens get obsessed with The Office (2005) and, in turn, those same teenagers start watching The Patient (2022).

All of which culminates in empathising with the mentally ill, the worst thing possible.

Never do it OP. That way madness lies.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Open Source Idiom posted:

Can someone who's smarter than me connect the subplot about Carrell's concerns with his son's turn to a orthodoxy to the serial killer plot? Other than maybe some stuff about fathers and sons and such...? I'm struggling to see how they inform each other. (Haven't seen the last two episodes yet, but I'm not bothered about spoilers when it comes to this info.)

Well that certainly was tied together in this episode!

Holy poo poo things are getting intense

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
Loved the new ep, wish more people were talking about this. Nice that the episode lengths have slowly crept up. Really heartwarming to see Alan and his son are on the same page, rooting so hard for him to escape now.

Had to look away every time he was near that tube, the thought of being cut with it proper went through me. I think it was because of the sound design. I loved the editing technique of hearing him sharpen the tube while we watched his thought process, it really felt like something never done before.

E: I loved Alan's judgement of his son and his religion in therapy too, it felt like such "real" and un-tv like therapy dialogue.

Annabel Pee fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Oct 12, 2022

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
I really hope this is a one off mini series and has an actual ending. Can't have another The Old Man .

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

It is, they've stated it's a limited series.

Though I wouldn't mind it if they turned it into some kind of anthology.

timp
Sep 19, 2007

Everything is in my control
Lipstick Apathy

anatomi posted:

It is, they've stated it's a limited series.

Though I wouldn't mind it if they turned it into some kind of anthology.

Hulu Presents: Therapy in hosed Up Situations Season Two

Alternate title: American Therapy Story. NO WAIT - Atherapan Horror Story. There it is.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Just kidding I'm not gonna gently caress his skull

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Just kidding I'm not gonna gently caress his skull

I totally thought Sam was serious. What a hilarious loving ending

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

:smith:

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
That was heartbreaking, kept waiting for a last second corny twist where he wasn’t dead and he pulled Sam into the grave lol. At least he gave his kids the letter.

Do you think Sam’s solution to let his mum keep him locked up will work? I doubt it, if he actually cared he would turn himself in. He probably thinks he wouldn’t mind just staying in his room all day with the sweet tv setup idea and his mum bringing him food, and at some point he’ll get bored and ask her to release him and she will.

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

I guess he killed his dad 1½ times so maybe he got it out of his system.

They should've shown us that he's no longer holding things inside him via a super-short tinkle. Strangle murderin's out, quick squirtin's in.

anatomi fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Oct 25, 2022

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blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

That was unexpectedly bleak

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