Platystemon posted:

HashtagGirlboss posted:

The walk back/repeal of measure 110 isn’t about preventing overdoses, it’s premised on an even stupider core assumption that the only reason that people aren’t engaging with the woefully inadequate treatment options is because cops can’t arrest them for simple possession

The people who are pushing this legislation for the most part know better, that nobody is compelled to seek treatment over getting arrested and thrown in jail for a couple nights for simple possession, that what we really need to do is alleviate the conditions that drive addiction in the first place

Large swaths of the public are that stupid, so that’s who the relentless media push has been directed at, and when the repeal does nothing to change anything it won’t register because the media won’t be beating the drums of the crisis quite so loudly

But anyway it doesn’t matter because helping people get clean and seek treatment isn’t what the people pushing this want anyway. What they really want, and what measure 110 took away, was a really good justification for cops to beat up and jail people they don’t like the look of. To clean up the streets by brutalizing people with a dose or two of meth

Platystemon posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuv1NNf3jdw

Real Mean Queen posted:

It’s honestly bizarre when people act like this is a new idea, it’s a badly managed emotion that gets written up like an exciting new policy proposal. On top of that, it’s also been the standing policy basically everywhere longer than I’ve been alive, and it doesn’t appear to have worked anywhere

Platystemon posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuv1NNf3jdw

Koishi Komeiji posted:

https://newrepublic.com/article/178678/supreme-court-criminalize-homeless-case

Just arrest all the homeless people, boom no more homeless people. Simple stuff here folks. How come no has tried this before?

JesusIsTehCool posted:

https://laist.com/brief/news/housing-homelessness/los-angeles-homeless-enforcement-report-on-4118

City of LA hides its own report showing that its 41.18 code (illegal to sit, lay, sleep, or have belongings in the marked zone) doesn't do anything but hurt unhoused people. Its almost like they are more interested in validating the feelings of their donors than they are in finding solutions to the crisis.

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yase awficsir ow b in cort monday wif all monies

Real hurthling! posted:

the thing with projects is they get built and then get shortchanged on maintenance and then shortchanged on repairs and then they become unliveable except as a last resort until everyone is forced out and developers fight over who gets to build the next thing there. aka the problem with projects is our political and economic system

Epitope posted:

What's the deal with the projects? If we could have another go, would we want that? If Michelle Obama made her primary issue building affordable housing projects, would you vote for her

Wolfy posted:

I hate to be all "better things aren't possible" but it's really difficult to imagine 2024 america instituting any public anything program at any level of government and giving that the needed ongoing support and funding to make it work for any reasonable amount of time

spacemang_spliff posted:

social security (universal retirement)

The Saucer Hovers posted:

vote

BillsPhoenix posted:

A month ago I posted about Portland not opening the emergency weather shelters for the full winter/ice storm. A couple people died.

But in a rarity, more than a handful of people called the city council / local news. I never got a reply, but a couple weeks ago, during some bad but not extreme weather, the shelters opened up. Gonzalez (singular council member in charge of this) now has a lot of competition, with this issue coming up.

It's not the biggest win, but no one died this time.

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Momentum builds in major homelessness case from Oregon headed to US Supreme Court

Momentum is building in a case regarding homeless encampments that will be argued before the U.S. Supreme Court next month and could have major implications for cities as homelessness nationwide has reached record highs.

Dozens of briefs have been filed in recent days, including from the Department of Justice, members of Congress and state attorneys general. They joined the growing number of western state and local officials who have submitted briefs urging the justices to overturn a controversial lower court decision they say has prevented them from addressing homeless encampments.

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More than half the people experiencing homelessness in the country were in four states: California and Washington, which are both under the 9th Circuit's jurisdiction, along with New York and Florida. About 28% of the nation’s homeless are estimated to be in California alone, according to the federal report from the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

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In a brief submitted Monday in support of neither party, the Department of Justice said the 9th Circuit was correct in finding that ordinances punishing people for sleeping outside where there isn’t enough shelter space were unconstitutional, but “erred” in having the decision apply to all homeless people “without requiring a more particularized inquiry into the circumstances of the individuals to whom those ordinances may be applied.”

“The court declined to decide what showing is required to establish that an individual is involuntarily homeless. That was error,” DOJ officials, including Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar and Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Kristen Clarke, wrote in the filing.

The Oldest Man posted:

https://publicola.com/2024/03/05/claiming-need-for-protection-from-unsheltered-people-burien-bans-nighttime-homelessness-throughout-city/

Being homeless is now literally a crime in a seattle suburb unless you're sleeping indoors (lol)

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One clause cites “allegations of sex trafficking, sexual assaults, drug use, thefts, and trespasses in or near unhoused encampments” as a justification for the ban

LuxuryLarva posted:

The criminalization of homelessness is just a test run for the police state proper. Everything they're doing to homeless people now they're going to do to everyone else later.

StashAugustine posted:

Not technically homelessness but adjacent:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/nyregion/subway-national-guard-police.html

NY calling in the loving national guard to patrol subways

In Training posted:

This part is absolutely deranged

"The plan would also introduce legislation that would allow judges to ban people convicted of a violent crime from riding the subways,"

Also the very next paragraph reveals, as always, this is complete bullshit spun up by the NYPD to get more money and make life worse for poor people any loving way they can.

"In mid-2022, there was about one violent crime for every one million rides on the subway, according to a New York Times analysis, making the chances of falling victim to such a crime remote. Since then, those chances have become even more remote, as the overall crime rate in the transit system has fallen and ridership has increased."

HashtagGirlboss posted:

I pointed this out in Succ but that’s almost completely unenforceable. It exists primarily as a way to add additional charges if a previously banned person gets arrested again. It does zero to impact safety and just makes sure the legal system gets to punish them harder

The Oldest Man posted:

True right now, but once you've got realtime facial recognition running on every cop's body cam, which is coming, it'll be open season

Al! posted:

yep the actual fascism is coming from rich big city libs and their rabid dogs, not powerless dipshits in the boonies

The Oldest Man posted:

i dont understand we keep giving the cops more money and they keep telling us to go gently caress ourselves and eat poo poo while they murder people, why isnt this working

Wolfy posted:

I hate to be all "better things aren't possible" but it's really difficult to imagine 2024 america instituting any public anything program at any level of government and giving that the needed ongoing support and funding to make it work for any reasonable amount of time

Al! posted:

checked my local flyover municipal budget and cops were <1% of the budget

Ted Wassanasong posted:

They usually double as the local criminal element in places like that.