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CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Honestly it's not that bad, but every grocery store legally has to play it once a day, so it's a case of overexposure.

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cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
I really liked Cliff as a character. You could see in his face, how deliberately he kept choosing his words to not lie. And he was honestly quite smart about it.
Actually, was there even an instance of her bullshit detection in this episode? I can't recall one.

Also, gently caress his boss. After all of this bullshit he should at the very least let him kill her.

Great season of a show! Will probably be high on my 2023 chart.

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 9, 2023

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

cant cook creole bream posted:

I really liked Cliff as a character. You could see in his face, how deliberately he kept choosing his words to not lie. And he was honestly quite smart about it.

Yeah, really dug that he was so careful about not only not saying anything that was a lie, but framing his responses in a way that felt natural rather than tiptoeing around her ability. "How'd that chip get there?" "It was there when we arrived."

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
I hope they find a way to get Cliff back as the one-eyed villain.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



withak posted:

I hope they find a way to get Cliff back as the one-eyed villain.

they're going to take from Columbo and Bratt is going to come back as a completely different piece of poo poo, and it's going to rule

Aye Doc fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Mar 10, 2023

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008
That penis ring prop really didn’t look like it would be hard to take off or hard enough to do that to an eye.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Benjamin Bratt stars as Robert Culp in Columbo 2: Poker Face!

Annabel Pee posted:

That penis ring prop really didn’t look like it would be hard to take off or hard enough to do that to an eye.

The crying drunk girl explained it all, it was a talisman that would protect her!

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



Jerusalem posted:

Benjamin Bratt stars as Robert Culp in Columbo 2: Poker Face!

hell yes, Joseph Gordon Levitt taking the Patrick McGoohan role, John Hodgman in the role of Bob Dishy, let's fuckin go

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

hm, episode 3 was pretty crappy.

mostly boring situation, and the plot felt too jokey. BBQ master turns vegan after seeing one movie. didn't like the whole talking to the dog stuff, or the patronising way the right wing radio was inserted with charlile going 'ugh! i disagree with these things. like me' and calling the dog a fascist every time. they feel like desperate attempts at likeable comedy.

the wood tasting thing was so farfetched, the radio guy being such a good voice actor he managed to fool taffy's sister-in-law/girlfriend, too.

i know this is a light-hearted show and i'm up for that but i want it to feel clever, too, not so obviously contrived. i liked the prerecording a radio show to sneak out and do crime bit, but that was the only element that didn't feel like the boring kind of goofy nonsense.

roomtone fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Mar 10, 2023

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

withak posted:

I hope they find a way to get Cliff back as the one-eyed villain.

gently caress it, let Hasp bust him out of prison and reinstate him in that role.
While I am fantasizing, I want Rhea Perlman's husband make an appearance in season 2.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
its just the reflection of his screen but the secretary at the hospital looks like he's been eating a lot of Spice

The Finn
Aug 27, 2004

إنه أصلع في الأسفل، كما تعلم
Just finished the pilot and immediately hit the forums to look for the thread, which has always meant "Oh poo poo this is fun" to me. Definitely should've done the "Serpentine!" down the casino hallway avoiding gunfire but other than that good job. Now to watch the rest of the season.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

I thought it was really funny how she couldn't get the dick ring off, but then put it back on after she did get it off. For some reason it suited the "I suppose I might as well" nature of the character.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
She seemed surprised that she had it back on, like she did it accidentally or just without thinking about it.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



its a talisman, the penis ring is symbolic of a guiding light/protective ward, and its shaped like a penis because that will draw the attention of half of the audience (men)
i do not think you are meant to read this show as a 1:1 simulation of reality

finale was emotionally devastating, and then restorative, 5/5 television, and then it ended in a coors light commercial? what

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
I think the series was more of a commercial for tall boys in general. At least it got me jonesing for them

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Show was designed to cater to the ultimate male fantasy: that any of us could ever be anywhere remotely as cool as Natasha Lyonne. Please stop setting unreasonable expectations, television!

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
In season 2 they should introduce someone who has the same lying power... but uses it for evil. Legit would probably make me like the lying super power more if they did something goofy like that lmao.

skeleton warrior
Nov 12, 2016


Spoilers for finale and first episode:

my wife and I watched the finale tonight, and she pointed out that Sterling Sr. said, “I told my son three things when I gave him the casino, the first two don’t matter, but the third is keep Hasp out”

In the first episode, Sterling Jr. makes a speech about when his father gave him the casino, his father told him three things: keep the floors clean, keep the Russian guy happy, and the third doesn’t matter.

Just an amazing call back. And just amazing acting and writing throughout, I think the highlight moment for me was the FBI guy coming in to arrest Cliff and starting off formal and tense and immediately dropping it with, “whoa wait dude, your eye is hosed up, do we need to take you to the hospital?”

Can’t wait for season 2.



idonotlikepeas posted:

She seemed surprised that she had it back on, like she did it accidentally or just without thinking about it.

Yeah, it seemed to me like it suddenly stunned her and disappointed her that suddenly it was there again.


cant cook creole bream posted:

Actually, was there even an instance of her bullshit detection in this episode? I can't recall one.

Pure speculation but it really felt like when her sister said, “y’know what? We’re fine. We’re doing fine.” that Charlie was going to call bullshit. I wouldn’t be surprised if her family is the only place she’s learned to hold back from. But this is just pure speculation.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



I think it makes sense for her to have that power as a v open and willing to be vulnerable kind of person, who sees the best in others etc- she's early middle aged, in her 30s, right? you don't survive that long with a spring in your step like that *without* a decent bullshit detector. She's an exaggeration of lots of little traits that I think a lot of median adults (that I'm wagering means about our age) exhibit: we're nicer than our ancestors, more trusting, more traumatized, more resilient, more tolerant, more hosed over-

idk there seems to be something important about Charlie Cale as a character, in the current culture- lol idk, it's like- this is the first tv character that makes me feel generationally seen as an adult, and they're showing her persevering over and over despite all odds. And that rules, kinda need that right now tbh

skeleton warrior posted:

Can’t wait for season 2.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
I don't want to say Bratt is a bad actor, but his style doesn't mesh with the show or the more grounded and real performances the one-episode actors are giving. The Big Bang Theory guy is unsalvageable though, takes me right out of the show every scene he's in.

The Finn
Aug 27, 2004

إنه أصلع في الأسفل، كما تعلم
Merch Girl is a real song and I listened to it on cassette in 1994

Autisanal Cheese
Nov 29, 2010

god I hope they make like ten seasons of this poo poo

Columbo is BACK baby

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Snooze Cruise posted:

In season 2 they should introduce someone who has the same lying power... but uses it for evil. Legit would probably make me like the lying super power more if they did something goofy like that lmao.

that's just the Invention of Lying and who wants to watch that


cant cook creole bream posted:

I really liked Cliff as a character. You could see in his face, how deliberately he kept choosing his words to not lie. And he was honestly quite smart about it.
Actually, was there even an instance of her bullshit detection in this episode? I can't recall one.

Also, gently caress his boss. After all of this bullshit he should at the very least let him kill her.

Great season of a show! Will probably be high on my 2023 chart.

they kinda switched it up by showing that people were telling the truth. Ron was telling the truth that he wasn't going to kill her

skele war said it's speculation about her sister but I think she meant it when she said they were fine (as in we're fine without you in our lives).

BB knew enough to tell only technical/half truths, and even though she was setting him up it still seemed dumb to me for her to get on the boat with him since she knew how ruthless he was

CatstropheWaitress
Nov 26, 2017

Alan Smithee posted:

it still seemed dumb to me for her to get on the boat with him since she knew how ruthless he was

I think this tracks with her character and part of why they have the bullshit-superpower - she's inherently really trusting of other people. And at that point she still reckons he's also in the same boat (heh) as her – someone who's outside the law, and the one person who, she assumes, knows she wouldn't have the will to pull the trigger.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

roomtone posted:

hm, episode 3 was pretty crappy.

mostly boring situation, and the plot felt too jokey. BBQ master turns vegan after seeing one movie. didn't like the whole talking to the dog stuff, or the patronising way the right wing radio was inserted with charlile going 'ugh! i disagree with these things. like me' and calling the dog a fascist every time. they feel like desperate attempts at likeable comedy.

the wood tasting thing was so farfetched, the radio guy being such a good voice actor he managed to fool taffy's sister-in-law/girlfriend, too.

i know this is a light-hearted show and i'm up for that but i want it to feel clever, too, not so obviously contrived. i liked the prerecording a radio show to sneak out and do crime bit, but that was the only element that didn't feel like the boring kind of goofy nonsense.

way I saw it, the episode was a good episode of what the show does well (empathizing with killers even if they are shitbirds and their victims don't deserve it) though in this case through a lot of unspoken stuff (the brother telling him he was gonna miss him since he's killing him, but he actually meant it. You really get the sense he just wanted to run a business and make people happy if it weren't for the show necessitating he be murderer of the week). And also what the show does not so well (The two timing wife stuff was kinda bad soap opera territory)

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
NGL sucks having Ron killed off so soon since it would have been fun having them around. An entire episode? Half a season? You bet

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Alan Smithee posted:

NGL sucks having Ron killed off so soon since it would have been fun having them around. An entire episode? Half a season? You bet

I was kind of hoping he would hire Charlie to work for him as a PI or something but resetting to baseline, with Hasp taking Sterling's place was probably a better resolution.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
I think I secretly hoped she would at least see the episode 1 secret hotel poker game heist through which I guess means part of me wants her to use it for another big score, with the murders taking a backseat for once

Mellow Seas
Oct 9, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Even though it didn't work out this season it would be fun if Charlie did get a big pool of money at some point, so we can see how she lives when she's blowing through mountains of cash like she was before Sterling ringed her. Or it could be done with flashbacks.

BooDooBoo
Jul 14, 2005

That makes no sense to me at all.


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Autisanal Cheese posted:

god I hope they make like ten seasons of this poo poo

Columbo is BACK baby

Every year JGL comes back as a different character.

This shall never be remarked upon.

That's all I want.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Columbo sucks sometimes. Like this episode with the smugest douche who has a made up accent that only exists in fiction for science douchers. The episode ends and the guy is got and you know he is busted, but they just pan out while the guy let's out an irritating mad im-busted laugh... Which literally gives him the last laugh and robs me of my catharsis.

Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007


Khanstant posted:

Columbo sucks sometimes. Like this episode with the smugest douche who has a made up accent that only exists in fiction for science douchers.

The one with Definitely Not MENSA?

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
i love how much the mensa episode hates mensa

in case people don't know, there is a columbo thread.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

I finished this tonight and I loving love this show.

NoDamage
Dec 2, 2000
The first and last episodes of the show were definitely the strongest. Wish they had weaved the main plot a bit more into the middle episodes instead of just having Cliff show up at the end just having missed her over and over again.

misguided rage
Jun 15, 2010

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

NoDamage posted:

The first and last episodes of the show were definitely the strongest. Wish they had weaved the main plot a bit more into the middle episodes instead of just having Cliff show up at the end just having missed her over and over again.
A third of the episode showing the murder, a third of the episode showing that Charlie was actually there the whole time, and then the last third showing that Cliff was also there the whole time but kept missing her through a series of increasingly improbable coincidences.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Peanut Butler posted:

I think it makes sense for her to have that power as a v open and willing to be vulnerable kind of person, who sees the best in others etc- she's early middle aged, in her 30s, right?

Natasha Lyonne is forty‐three.

I don’t know if we’ve gotten anything to suggest that Charlie Cale is older or younger.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
she said she's a cusper

I don't imagine she meant the bridge between gen-z and millenial

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Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Now that the season's over, what are everyone's favourite and least favourite episodes?

My favourite is #3, The Stall. I love all the characters and the way Charlie arranged to have the murderer arrested. Every actor, no matter how small their role, killed it.

My least favourite is #8, The Orpheus Syndrome. I didn't hate it, but I just didn't find the murderer to be a compelling villain.

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