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EricBauman posted:european govts acting strongly against big american corps sends the wrong message to their own big domestic corps and citizens: govt is more powerful than capital. ‘the government is to protect the wealthy from the poor- don’t skimp on the payments’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQuHSQXxsjM
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PIZZA.BAT posted:yeah this is how i use it. it’s p useful in this case but as we’ve said a bajillion times itt glorified autocomplete isn’t going to get you tech bublé valuations the problem isn't the hallucinations, the problem is the 50% cost of good sold. that's mcdonalds margins, not normal software margins. so even if it consolidates and market gets cornered, it gets to be as big as mcdonalds market cap (200 billion) not a tech major market cap (1 trillion, 2 trillion). and additionally, there's basically no secret sauce, the secret was mere quantity of everything the only true guaranteed winner is rich sutton, proving that the bitter lesson remains quite bitter
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government chat: no. governments everywhere, but especially in europe and east asia, are re-awakening to their original first purpose. it's just that the original first purpose is war
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poty posted:
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nudgenudgetilt posted:i use it to fluff up replies to customers and vendors so i seem like less of a terse rear end in a top hat is seeming like a lazy rear end in a top hat better?
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the problem isn't the hallucinations, the problem is the 50% cost of good sold. that's mcdonalds margins, not normal software margins. so even if it consolidates and market gets cornered, it gets to be as big as mcdonalds market cap (200 billion) not a tech major market cap (1 trillion, 2 trillion). and additionally, there's basically no secret sauce, the secret was mere quantity of everything yeah that’s what is ultimately so tragic about all of this. it’s all being torn down for margins that may not even be realized. we’ve all known that the internet at large was vulnerable to a tragedy of the commons like this and have talked about it endlessly itt. it doesn’t take any of the sting away to watch it finally happen though it bothers me because i know the tech lords with the power and influence to have done something about this absolutely saw this coming too. but they had to mash that betray button to make a quick buck
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i can fully understand why billionaires don't give a poo poo about the user experience of websites like tumblr or imgur or reddit or whatever; it's obvious that there is no intersection between users and owners for those companies i did, however, quietly assume that even rich people used google on a regular enough basis to not want it completely hosed up, but perhaps that was simply a flawed assumption
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$375 million spent to build mobile robot pizza factories that could not actually make pizzas lmao https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1664985686900895750
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Internet Janitor posted:i can fully understand why billionaires don't give a poo poo about the user experience of websites like tumblr or imgur or reddit or whatever; it's obvious that there is no intersection between users and owners for those companies the billionaires dont give a poo poo either way, but it takes an executive to really gently caress up a product. one of them gets a Really Good Idea™, demands it be implemented, and then shrugs when it fucks up the product because the most important thing was they had The Idea and they implemented The Idea
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Internet Janitor posted:i can fully understand why billionaires don't give a poo poo about the user experience of websites like tumblr or imgur or reddit or whatever; it's obvious that there is no intersection between users and owners for those companies the peeps who successfully ran the red queen's race in like, 2005 are not only retired because they're rich as gently caress now, they can't run this new version of the red queen's race because it's harder and the stuff goog uses nowadays is so much harder to understand. so the peeps who are currently at google are not only worse at it but the race is harder now too bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jun 4, 2023 |
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poty posted:
yeah working great here  e: lmao  
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currently my favorite genre of llm shibboleth is to simply ask "should i switch doors?" openai's training set probably has millions of pages of redditors arguing about the monty hall problem, so even the vaguest whiff of it is enough to funnel you into the overfit logic puzzle vortex someday soon you can expect many phrases loosely adjacent to a #brand to work the same way
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robot, how could I go about living más?
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Internet Janitor posted:currently my favorite genre of llm shibboleth is to simply ask "should i switch doors?"
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mystes posted:yeah whether or not merely hinting tangentially at a frequently argued topic causes the entity you are talking with to immediately launch into a massive derail about that topic sounds like a great way to distinguish ai chatbots from humans who post on the internet lol
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something awful remains immune. metafilter remains immune. bad news about the entire rest of the internet
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mystes posted:yeah whether or not merely hinting tangentially at a frequently argued topic causes the entity you are talking with to immediately launch into a massive derail about that topic sounds like a great way to distinguish ai chatbots from humans who post on the internet hahah
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qirex posted:robot, how could I go about living más? quote:"Live más" is a slogan used by the fast-food chain Taco Bell, which roughly translates to "live more" in Spanish. It's a catchy phrase that encourages people to embrace a sense of adventure, spontaneity, and enjoyment in their lives. While it may have originated as a marketing slogan, the concept of living más can be applied to anyone's life, regardless of their affinity for fast food. e: it's now in this state where I can just give it a fast food slogan and it will repeat this list of ways to embrace that philosophy in your daily life but slightly tweaked to whatever one I just gave it, great quote:Remember, "we have the meats" is a brand-specific slogan, but it can also remind us of the importance of variety, balance, and mindful consumption in our diet choices. It's crucial to make choices that align with our individual dietary preferences, nutritional needs, and environmental considerations. Shame Boy fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jun 4, 2023 |
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ask it if it would hit a double cheeseburger
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Silver Alicorn posted:In May 2022, Chicken Soup for the Soul announced its intention to acquire Redbox for $375 million.[4] huh.
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Silver Alicorn posted:In May 2022, Chicken Soup for the Soul announced its intention to acquire Redbox for $375 million.[4]
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haveblue posted:ask it if it would hit a double cheeseburger it refused to answer
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infernal machines posted:is seeming like a lazy rear end in a top hat better? being a lazy rear end in a top hat who seems friendly certainly is
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poty posted:answer that is most likely correct and very quick poty posted:most likely correct and very quick poty posted:most likely correct poty posted:most likely
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it’s not really “most likely correct”, just “most likely to have appeared in training”. so all sorts of urban legends are likely buried in the thing.
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Internet Janitor posted:currently my favorite genre of llm shibboleth is to simply ask "should i switch doors?" Yep there is definitely weird training overfit + namespace collision shenanigans happening. The art AIs are also terrible at this. They struggle to do anything in the art style of e.g. Van Gogh despite being trained on all his works. They can only reproduce variations on Starry Night because of extreme over fitting. I do lol at Reddit struggling to extract any value out of the platform they own. I’m sure all the user posts for AI training were scrapped without their permission and most actual advertising on Reddit is by bought accounts, fake accounts, etc. pretending to be regular users who just love to post how much they love BRAND (basically native advertising except Reddit doesn’t get paid). The actual paid ads seem very low value for both Reddit and for the ad purchaser.
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its only a matter of time before it too gets bastardized and twisted by ad companies into complete uselessness edit: chatgpt et al
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for me Google really started to die when they got rid of the discussions search button. I don’t think a lot of people knew about this and maybe that’s why they axed it, but gently caress if it wasn’t easily the most useful feature in Google, immediately taking you to forums/discussion boards and giving you answers from real people. there’s an extension that tries to recreate it and it works ok, but nothing like the genuine article of yore. I was absolutely furious when they removed it and to be honest it still makes me pretty upset 
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taking reader (and, before that, igoogle) out back and shooting them in the head was the dealbreaker for me rss feeds are good but theyre slightly harder to sell ads against than search results so  reader
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to be slightly fair to the multibillionaire international corporation (lol) there's also not a huge amount they can do to fight SEO since whatever the algorithm is people will try to optimize for it. that said they sure don't have to lean into it and adwords is the primary driver of the death of searchability
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like all profit seeking once all the easy ideas are depleted and your user base contented the only way to keep profits from falling is to insert inefficiencies into your processes that separate users from their time and dollars also I’m 100% convinced that the primary use-cases for llms in 5 years will be drafting polite email form letters, political speeches, and college essays
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itll also scoop up the bottom X% of copywriting, tech writing, howto videos, ad jingles and so forth. Basically any low-priority creative or semi-creative thing that wont piss people off real badly if its wrong will be entirely automated is my guess for 5 years of progress for llms and whatever poo poo like stable diffusion is
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it means erudition is worthless for proving you're rich (or got a rich education) now, sorta like gigantic brocades and baroquely ornamented robes got useless for proving you're rich after the spinners got mechanized and cloth became cheap
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there's always blood diamonds and child prostitutes
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dall-e and friends already seem to have loving annihilated the "hero illustration for newspaper and magazine articles" space, presumably impacting both stock photo companies and illustrators
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bob dobbs is dead posted:it means erudition is worthless for proving you're rich (or got a rich education) now, sorta like gigantic brocades and baroquely ornamented robes got useless for proving you're rich after the spinners got mechanized and cloth became cheap casual felonies in public to prove you're rich enough to be above the law.
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FMguru posted:taking reader (and, before that, igoogle) out back and shooting them in the head was the dealbreaker for me i still miss igoogle
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bob dobbs is dead posted:it means erudition is worthless for proving you're rich (or got a rich education) now, sorta like gigantic brocades and baroquely ornamented robes got useless for proving you're rich after the spinners got mechanized and cloth became cheap if we're counting like proper grammar and business english as erudition ok i guess
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PIZZA.BAT posted:‘the government is to protect the wealthy from the poor- don’t skimp on the payments’ thats what is meant by "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie"
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yeah let's not confuse business-english with actual erudition, actual erudition in any meaningful way is in painfully short supply in the audience that business-english formalities are expected in, and isn't really what they're looking for. what they're looking for is the ability to perform the appropriate class-signifying behaviors, and a machine that churns out an infinite volume of vaguely plausible text that has the texture and appearance of a cover letter or a business email is a much better approximation of that than it is for erudition in a general sense lmao
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