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Super Jay Mann posted:Don't let Japan's championship and Ohtani's MVP disguise the fact that Ohtani struck out on a 71mph changeup from a Czech electrician. Baseball is a beautiful sport.
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Super Jay Mann posted:Don't let Japan's championship and Ohtani's MVP disguise the fact that Ohtani struck out on a 71mph changeup from a Czech electrician. the world baseball classic owns so much
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mikeycp posted:it's always fun to see a bunch of countries with fans who are loud and super into it You might get more passion from fans if the U.S. was broken up into subregions by player birth state. The U.S. player pool is absurdly deep. CA, FL, TX, "Great Lakes", "SEC", "Eastern Seaboard" - all of those states/regions would field championship-caliber teams (especially the first few I listed), and maybe that garners more local pride than monoculture red-white-blue MURICA. It does dilute the thin pitching further but I'm assuming in this hypothetical that we figure that out for 2026. Plus we'd get some sweet unis out of it.
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Lord Of Texas posted:You might get more passion from fans if the U.S. was broken up into subregions by player birth state. The U.S. player pool is absurdly deep.
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Lord Of Texas posted:You might get more passion from fans if the U.S. was broken up into subregions by player birth state. The U.S. player pool is absurdly deep. It does sound cool in a vacuum, but all that really accomplishes is pushing out even more of the international talent pool. You could always do it like Little League, where the US team is just the winner of a qualifying tournament, just in this case comprised of teams separated by region, but obviously the logistics of that type of thing is untenable for MLB.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Ohtani really is the coolest player I’ve ever seen he's cooler than any player your grandparents have ever seen. it is pretty much impossible to describe how cool it is that we are alive when shohei ohtani is playing baseball because there has literally never been anyone who did it like this. babe ruth was fine as a pitcher and became an amazing position player. shohei is an amazing pitcher and an amazing hitter at the same time. it's just literally never been done. gently caress anyone trying to pull rank saying they saw willie mays at Ebbets field, I got to watch shohei loving ohtani call game
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haha he struck out mike trout, literally the only other possible contender for best baseball player of all time. holy poo poo that happened and I watched it and I was an hour late for a work dinner and it was worth it
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My wife watched the first 6ish innings with me and then she had to go meet her brother for dinner and I also had to go to a work thing, but this was me already 20 minutes late
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mike trout is gonna go into the hall in an angels hat with 3 postseason games to his name and that sucks poo poo
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Pretty cool that he was just about independently tournament MVP as both pitcher and batter.
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Last night might have been the best baseball game I've watched in a long time. Single elimination just hits different, especially with all the national pride going on.
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more falafel please posted:he's cooler than any player your grandparents have ever seen. it is pretty much impossible to describe how cool it is that we are alive when shohei ohtani is playing baseball because there has literally never been anyone who did it like this. babe ruth was fine as a pitcher and became an amazing position player. shohei is an amazing pitcher and an amazing hitter at the same time. it's just literally never been done. gently caress anyone trying to pull rank saying they saw willie mays at Ebbets field, I got to watch shohei loving ohtani call game https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/1916-pitching-leaders.shtml
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Fast Luck posted:hmm, I think you're underselling Babe's pitching. He was arguably the best pitcher in baseball in 1916 (more likely second best behind Walter Johnson) and was in the conversation in 1917. He just gave it up to focus on hitting. Also overselling Ohtani as a hitter. His wRC+ was lower than Jeff McNeil's last year.
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more falafel please posted:mike trout is gonna go into the hall in an angels hat with 3 postseason games to his name and that sucks poo poo Ernie Banks sends his regards.
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If Babe Ruth was any good he would’ve played when I was alive.
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Lord Of Texas posted:In a single 9 inning game where the teams are reasonably matched like tonight there is basically no takeaway other than "baseball". DeGrom/Scherzer/Verlander could have been on the mound and it might have been the same result. Just look at Kershaw's playoff history and you can see that anything's possible in one game with reasonably matched teams.
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live with fruit posted:Also overselling Ohtani as a hitter. His wRC+ was lower than Jeff McNeil's last year. Ohtani has been the 8th best hitter in baseball over the last two years by your chosen measurement. That's an elite hitter.
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Did any other Cubs fans do the Leonardo DiCaprio meme when they held up Seiya Suzuki's jersey at the end of the game?
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What tier of MLB pitcher is Ohtani during the season? His stuff looked pretty nice last night, at least the tiny sample I got to see.
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more falafel please posted:mike trout is gonna go into the hall in an angels hat with 3 postseason games to his name and that sucks poo poo Felix Hernandez has a case for a spot in the Hall and has 0 postseason games.
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Zwabu posted:What tier of MLB pitcher is Ohtani during the season? His stuff looked pretty nice last night, at least the tiny sample I got to see. This is from his Wikipedia page on his 2022 season quote:Among AL pitchers, Ohtani finished the year first in SO/9 innings rate (11.87), third in strikeouts (219), fourth in ERA (2.33) and tied for fourth in wins (15), while amongst AL hitters, Ohtani ranked fourth in homers (34), fifth in OPS (.875), fifth in total bases (304), third in intentional walks (14), tied for third in extra-base hits (70), fifth in slugging (.519), tied for fourth in triples (6), seventh in RBIs (95), seventh in walks (72), and tied for eighth in runs (90).[4] Ohtani also led the majors with a home-to-first average time of 4.09 seconds, and was the only player in the majors to tally at least six triples and 34 home runs in 2022 (making him the only player to do so in a second consecutive year).[141] He hit a ball with the highest exit velocity in major league baseball for the season, at 119.1 mph.[155] He also had the fastest speed running from home plate to first base, at 4.09 seconds. I dunno, I think this guy might be pretty good. The main thing that strikes me when I look at him though is just how loving huge that dude is. He looks like hes about to rip through his uniform when he moves. It's kind of like seeing LeBron, and how even when amongst a bunch elite athletes and his peers he still stands out as visibly the biggest, strongest, fastest dude out there.
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Zwabu posted:What tier of MLB pitcher is Ohtani during the season? His stuff looked pretty nice last night, at least the tiny sample I got to see. In that one inning last night his stuff was as good as anyone in baseball. I didn't even know he could throw it that fast.
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Pedro once again cooler than Smoltz/Arod/etc https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1638529688590069761
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Fast Luck posted:hmm, I think you're underselling Babe's pitching. He was arguably the best pitcher in baseball in 1916 (more likely second best behind Walter Johnson) and was in the conversation in 1917. He just gave it up to focus on hitting. All stats in the segregated leagues are fake.
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habeasdorkus posted:Ohtani has been the 8th best hitter in baseball over the last two years by your chosen measurement. That's an elite hitter. And Ruth is still the best hitter of the past 150 years. Ohtani might be a better pitcher than Ruth but a lot of nuance is lost just saying that they’re both amazing hitters. Bip Roberts posted:All stats in the segregated leagues are fake. Including Negro League stats?
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https://twitter.com/StoolBaseball/status/1638535131706138627?s=20 For comparison: 94% of US TV watchers were tuned to the moon landing in 1969.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:https://twitter.com/StoolBaseball/status/1638535131706138627?s=20 That is out-loving-landish
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:For comparison: 94% of US TV watchers were tuned to the moon landing in 1969. loving hell that's crazy
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Of all TVs? Factoring in homes with more than one TV?
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live with fruit posted:Of all TVs? Factoring in homes with more than one TV? Quite likely the 2.6% of TVs not watching the game were playing to empty rooms
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mdemone posted:Quite likely the 2.6% of TVs not watching the game were playing to empty rooms That's 97.4% of all TVs actively in use at that time, not total TVs period.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:That's 97.4% of all TVs actively in use at that time, not total TVs period. That makes more sense seeing that it happened about 11 am on a workday.
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Bip Roberts posted:That makes more sense seeing that it happened about 11 am on a workday. A lot of places cancelled work yesterday
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Man, I can’t stop thinking about that final at bat. What an amazing moment. It was everything you look for in sports.
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Kilometers Davis posted:Man, I can’t stop thinking about that final at bat. What an amazing moment. It was everything you look for in sports. If you would have written that ending for a movie it would have been called hokey and unrealistic. Truth really is stranger than fiction. Babe Ruth struck out Lou Gehrig to end the game.
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