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Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/300895190/ben-robertssmith-case-former-australian-sas-soldier-committed-war-crimes

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Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
Is every bug you find this month a june bug? :thunk:

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I would like there to be fewer events this month, thank you.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

I would like there to be fewer events this month, thank you.

The best I can do is three point two percent fewer events than in May.

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts

Zamujasa posted:

Is every bug you find this month a june bug? :thunk:

I can't get this song out of my head now and you must suffer with me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EciCn-3HII

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Crossposting from May:

SquirrelyPSU posted:

I just got caught up on the Davenport stuff.

Holy poo poo.

Chuck Grassley: "Its hard for me to comment, because this is private property and normally not something FEMA responds to" (Des Moines Register (paywall): https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...se/70273838007/)

Locally, we had a retaining wall collapse beneath a renovated apartment building and the rubble sat there for three loving years while they went through litigation. Meanwhile, the Fern Hollow Bridge in Pittsburgh was reopened to traffic in under a year.

e: And knee jerk reaction, yes I believe they brought in the wrecking balls to cover up malfeasance like they saw it in The Wire.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I hope there's a federal microscope or twenty climbing in people's assholes over that. Trying to demolish the building on to survivors is some heinous poo poo.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



armpit_enjoyer posted:

I can't get this song out of my head now and you must suffer with me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EciCn-3HII

Oh yeah? I'll hurt you worse for this paizano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgZ7gMze7A

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah

SquirrelyPSU posted:

Crossposting from May:

The building's owner has received a citation with a fine of $300, plus $95 in court fees

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


CBJSprague24 posted:

Watching this on CNN right now and apparently, the docs included details on a ground invasion of Iran involving a "massive" number of troops.

so is this referring to the current Middle East Kerfuffle or what

because if it is god drat we heard about that one early

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.
\

US Berder Patrol posted:

The building's owner has received a citation with a fine of $300, plus $95 in court fees
I thought you were kidding. But jesus h loving christ.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
we polled a jury of 12 of your peers and survey says

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1664050543088525313?t=-bQTau90pGxoCq5xGyExGw&s=19

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Kith posted:

so is this referring to the current Middle East Kerfuffle or what

because if it is god drat we heard about that one early

The documents Trump was recorded talking about at Bedminster and acknowledging were classified (revealed yesterday) included a four-page outline by Mark Milley of a massive invasion of Iran.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



:lol:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/06/01/poisoned-water-how-navy-ship-dumped-fuel-and-sickened-its-own-crew.html

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


US Berder Patrol posted:

The building's owner has received a citation with a fine of $300, plus $95 in court fees

The system works!

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers






Lmao even I haven't managed this

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Well, you're going to see this everywhere for a few days:

https://twitter.com/MikeCarterTV/status/1664345150833696770?t=sJ1yHOao0PKKjZmo0bW3jQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1664345567395192843?t=9df817kBFnQFKVU0uJcJRA&s=19

probably needs to hold a presser and give a joke about banning sandbags

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Sand has long troubled the USAF.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?


I already read about... oh it's the other one.... nope, just the third instance of fuel contaminated water on a Navy ship reported on in the last couple years. Hooyah.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Platystemon posted:

Sand has long troubled the USAF.

They've graduated since then - they've made skynet.

https://twitter.com/ArmandDoma/status/1664331870564147200?t=YaYHWi6n40ktDfPyUJsWHw&s=19

And it's legit, an article titled "AI – is Skynet here already?" near the bottom of https://www.aerosociety.com/news/highlights-from-the-raes-future-combat-air-space-capabilities-summit/

That Colonel is more talking about how some automation is good (autopilots), but true AI can be kind bad and uh yeah that shouldn't be used everywhere

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


US Berder Patrol posted:

The building's owner has received a citation with a fine of $300, plus $95 in court fees

I wish you could feel how livid I am.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

facialimpediment posted:

They've graduated since then - they've made skynet.

---

And it's legit, an article titled "AI – is Skynet here already?" near the bottom of https://www.aerosociety.com/news/highlights-from-the-raes-future-combat-air-space-capabilities-summit/

That Colonel is more talking about how some automation is good (autopilots), but true AI can be kind bad and uh yeah that shouldn't be used everywhere

"if you're going to stop me from doing what i've been told needs done, i'm going to do what i can to work around you", but now with computers and without any sort of morals. fun

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Wombot
Sep 11, 2001

facialimpediment posted:

They've graduated since then - they've made skynet.

And it's legit, an article titled "AI – is Skynet here already?" near the bottom of https://www.aerosociety.com/news/highlights-from-the-raes-future-combat-air-space-capabilities-summit/

That Colonel is more talking about how some automation is good (autopilots), but true AI can be kind bad and uh yeah that shouldn't be used everywhere

Here's the full bit from that Colonel.

quote:

However, perhaps one of the most fascinating presentations came from Col Tucker ‘Cinco’ Hamilton, the Chief of AI Test and Operations, USAF, who provided an insight into the benefits and hazards in more autonomous weapon systems. Having been involved in the development of the life-saving Auto-GCAS system for F-16s (which, he noted, was resisted by pilots as it took over control of the aircraft) Hamilton is now involved in cutting-edge flight test of autonomous systems, including robot F-16s that are able to dogfight. However, he cautioned against relying too much on AI noting how easy it is to trick and deceive. It also creates highly unexpected strategies to achieve its goal.

He notes that one simulated test saw an AI-enabled drone tasked with a SEAD mission to identify and destroy SAM sites, with the final go/no go given by the human. However, having been ‘reinforced’ in training that destruction of the SAM was the preferred option, the AI then decided that ‘no-go’ decisions from the human were interfering with its higher mission – killing SAMs – and then attacked the operator in the simulation. Said Hamilton: “We were training it in simulation to identify and target a SAM threat. And then the operator would say yes, kill that threat. The system started realising that while they did identify the threat at times the human operator would tell it not to kill that threat, but it got its points by killing that threat. So what did it do? It killed the operator. It killed the operator because that person was keeping it from accomplishing its objective.”

He went on: “We trained the system – ‘Hey don’t kill the operator – that’s bad. You’re gonna lose points if you do that’. So what does it start doing? It starts destroying the communication tower that the operator uses to communicate with the drone to stop it from killing the target.”

This example, seemingly plucked from a science fiction thriller, mean that: “You can't have a conversation about artificial intelligence, intelligence, machine learning, autonomy if you're not going to talk about ethics and AI” said Hamilton.

Bolding and italics mine. "Simulated" is a key word here - this story smells weird, it's such a cliche. How high up were things simulated?

Edit: And like, how does it know to blow up the specific comms tower? That feels too cute.

Wombot fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jun 2, 2023

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.

Wombot posted:

Here's the full bit from that Colonel.

Bolding and italics mine. "Simulated" is a key word here - this story smells weird, it's such a cliche. How high up were things simulated?

Edit: And like, how does it know to blow up the specific comms tower? That feels too cute.

Presumably an AI that is conducting SEAD missions has to be able to understand the difference between a radar site and a radio tower. It also has to understand the difference between friendly and hostile installations. I can imagine that one of the scenarios the AI is trained on is how to complete the mission in the event of loss of comms. From there it's not a huge leap to "shoot the hostage " level decision making.

Wombot
Sep 11, 2001

Yeah it makes perfect sense if it's a human. If it's a neural network or whatever, no. What does make sense is if this was like a wargame with ChatGPT or whatever. Which, sure, the drone (simulated) blew up (simulated) the operator (simulated) but that's based on 100% simulated sensors, data, and weapons in a simulated sandbox that the AI has full access to.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Look the machine spirit just decided it could serve the imperium better without any meddlers getting in its way and if you disagree you sound like you support heretics

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
To an AI simulation and reality are indistinguishable

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

AI-enabled Drone for President 2024

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Madurai posted:

AI-enabled Drone for President 2024

Another president that can be defeated by stairs

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
nothing to worry about, i'm sure it's for personal reasons

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1664425922047676417?s=20

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Kesper North posted:

nothing to worry about, i'm sure it's for personal reasons

There was some dumb Daily Wire "What is a Woman?" transphobic documentary that twitter blocked them from posting, then Elon came back from China and unblocked it and yammered about streisand effect (and unmarked a Chinese news service as government media). Likely finally had enough.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
rip the rip drones

https://twitter.com/lee_georgina/status/1664585717358395392?t=SP5DfUn20UsPaR9s9ky3Rw&s=19

And there was another gangbusters job report that posted, more or less everyone predicting an inevitable recession is a self-motiviated idiot on the wrong side of a federal reserve rate bet and whining about reserve rates.

https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1664610800638603267?t=61n6pnchSZvW8PO1tQdNtA&s=19

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



facialimpediment posted:

There was some dumb Daily Wire "What is a Woman?" transphobic documentary that twitter blocked them from posting, then Elon came back from China and unblocked it and yammered about streisand effect (and unmarked a Chinese news service as government media). Likely finally had enough.

They still ended up deplatforming it as much as possible and apartheid clyde is getting slammed while trying to explain what they're doing to make sure that dailywire followers are still able to see it. Last I saw no commenting or anything was allowed and it wasn't popping up on even the dailywire followers feeds'.

Reminder that Matt Walsh sells a loving baby plushie of himself in nothing but a diaper for your kids to play with.


e: it appears that elon is personally tweeting links to it and encouraging people to watch this horseshit. seriously, just get off twitter if you are still on it.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jun 2, 2023

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.
\

facialimpediment posted:

And there was another gangbusters job report that posted, more or less everyone predicting an inevitable recession is a self-motiviated idiot on the wrong side of a federal reserve rate bet and whining about reserve rates.

https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1664610800638603267?t=61n6pnchSZvW8PO1tQdNtA&s=19
The natural state of economic reporting is wishing a recession into being for reasons.

Low unemployment? Recession is just around the bend. High unemployment? Hoo boy, this means recession will be here. Dow had a good day? People are buying to take a little more profit before the inevitable recession. Blah blah blah.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

stealie72 posted:

The natural state of economic reporting is wishing a recession into being for reasons.

Low unemployment? Recession is just around the bend. High unemployment? Hoo boy, this means recession will be here. Dow had a good day? People are buying to take a little more profit before the inevitable recession. Blah blah blah.

Very rich people don't like inflation and the fourth estate has been hollowed out to an intern and chatgpt generating product reviews for memorial day.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Yeah all of the above drives me nuts because enough of these idiot CEOs *can* get together and cause a recession just by being idiots and firing people. And then the Musks, Bezoses, and Zuckerbergs have no financial consequence to being poo poo at their jobs.

Anyways, the funniest bit about the Donnie classified documents thing is just how easily it could've been resolved painlessly. "Oops, oh gently caress, sorry about that, here you go" solves the whole thing:

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1664649186573164544?t=muPhyX3EeIDnyv0MmEzhlw&s=19

But he went "I don't wanna" and here we are!

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Why do people insist on continuing to use Twitter despite the fact that it's ran by a transphobic fascist?

He's been running it into the ground for over half a year now.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
It's brain worms, although everybody still on it says it's "an irreplaceable news source" or some sort of community

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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Mostly because there isn't anything better.

That and if you had to avoid transphobic fascist-run entities, you'd have to put down your phone, then smash it to pieces with a hammer.

Except that hammer was probably sold by a big business sending contributions to transphobic fascists, so I'll just keep blocking advertisers and bluechecks versus headbutting my phone to death.

Also twitter spaces melted down in the DeSantis announcement because the twitter spaces team is three whole people.

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