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Tiny Timbs posted:Better the Scud you know lol
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oh, and the reason why he is a refugee now
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Jan 30, 2024 14:14
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Cindy the SKULL posted:Well sure, but isn't it kinda completely reasonable to associate Israel with Jews as a people, since uh, Israel kinda does portray itself as THE Jewish Nation? It might not be just, but that's kinda what follows when a state like Israel does crimes against Muslims for half a century...... It's the same with America imo, there's plenty of hatred among Muslims towards your people for quite justifiable reasons. It's not something you can really criticise them for. No, it's not. Your example is even dumber, because there is no 'American' ethnicity or religion. If you're an American, then you're a member of the United States of America. Yemeni Jews are not Israelites. You're just defending and excusing bigotry. Fascinating. Guess bigotry and antisemitism has a point!
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Jan 30, 2024 14:16
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sorry, i edited the link. anyway, i don't understand what you're saying, also sorry about that
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Cindy the SKULL posted:sorry, i edited the link. anyway, i don't understand what you're saying, also sorry about that You're comparing the justified dislike of America and Americans, a country that hasn't always been the best to the Kuwaiti, to the Houthis general hatred of Jews, who are NOT Israeli or all Israelites and thus cannot be said to have all participated in crimes against the Gazans. You're saying that antisemitism is justified and reasonable because Israel has done bad. To put it super simply: All Americans are members of the USA. Not all Jews are members Israel. One is a nation, one is a ethnicity/religion. Conflating them to excuse hatred of unrelated Jews is bigotry. Kchama fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jan 30, 2024 |
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Jan 30, 2024 14:23
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“I dunno guys, I mean the antisemitism of ‘a curse on the Jews’ is a little ambiguous. It could mean like: dang or shoot.”
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Jan 30, 2024 14:31
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BBC is reporting Israeli special forces engaged in treachery during lethal raid on West Bank hospital, dressing as civilians and healthcare workers while entering and killing Palestinian men. I guess they could argue the men killed aren’t part of a nation or army, but then it is still dressing up like doctors and civilians to kill civilian subjects of Israel so… https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1752323045346230705?s=46&t=fppHBZSlD4AbSz5pJxjFMQ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68137050
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Jan 30, 2024 14:39
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right, the antisemitism, deplorable and quite frankly concerning, as a causally traceable result of the actions, the crimes of the state of Israel? we're in agreement then?
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Jan 30, 2024 14:41
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mlmp08 posted:BBC is reporting Israeli special forces engaged in treachery during lethal raid on West Bank hospital, dressing as civilians and healthcare workers while entering and killing Palestinian men. Definite crimes against humanity there on Israel's part. Cindy the SKULL posted:right, the antisemitism, deplorable and quite frankly concerning, as a causally traceable result of the actions, the crimes of the state of Israel? we're in agreement then? You seem pretty intent on making the antisemitism out to be justified. EDIT: Lol that being against bigotry against Jews gets you labelled an Israel-lover. Gee, wonder who gave me this AV.
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Jan 30, 2024 14:49
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Jan 30, 2024 14:52
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Cindy the SKULL posted:right, the antisemitism, deplorable and quite frankly concerning, as a causally traceable result of the actions, the crimes of the state of Israel? we're in agreement then? This is dumb; you could just pull up. This is the same dipshit level argument that your local bigoted grandpa uses to argue why it’s okay to hate Those People or That Religion as long as he can find one country that does bad things and is aligned with or run by members of the minority he hates.
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Jan 30, 2024 14:53
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mlmp08 posted:BBC is reporting Israeli special forces engaged in treachery during lethal raid on West Bank hospital, dressing as civilians and healthcare workers while entering and killing Palestinian men. Textbook perfidy.
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Jan 30, 2024 14:55
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mlmp08 posted:This is dumb; you could just pull up. what? i don't have any particular feelings towards jews, i don't think i've ever even met one. I'm talking about the hatred I hear from my many refugee/* Muslim friends I talk with about the subject. Like, I'm telling you that the actions of Israel in these past few months have had lasting repurcussions across the whole loving planet upon the opinions of billions of people. jeez (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 30, 2024 14:57
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Cindy the SKULL posted:what? i don't have any particular feelings towards jews, i don't think i've ever even met one. I'm talking about the hatred I hear from my many refugee/* Muslim friends I talk with about the subject. Like, I'm telling you that the actions of Israel in these past few months have had lasting repurcussions across the whole loving planet upon the opinions of billions of people. jeez What he is saying is, those people are trying to justify their bigotry by saying that their hatred is only because of a nation. They already had that bigotry. That bigotry is older than a few months. The Houthis flag is decades old. So you going "Well they SAY they have a reason for hating Jews because Israel did bad so that means that bigotry is justified" is dumb and wrong.
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Jan 30, 2024 15:00
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If y’all can’t play nice, and discuss poo poo, this thread is going away. There are plenty of other sub forums where you can argue about the semantics of “death to the Jews” or whatever the gently caress horrible slogans.
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Jan 30, 2024 15:01
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Kchama posted:No, it's not. Your example is even dumber, because there is no 'American' ethnicity or religion. If you're an American, then you're a member of the United States of America. Yemeni Jews are not Israelites. You're just defending and excusing bigotry. The obsession and appeals to the fact that the Houthis are doing or have done bad things and therefore aren’t credible are just baffling when it seems all these same people don’t have a problem or be particularly concerned about the United States being “cynical” or “opportunistic” when it comes to us and our proxies actions in the region. This is the same disingenuous rhetorical trick as pretending “reverse racism” or “black power” is equally or more dangerous as “white power.” In the context of the Houthis these are people who just survived famine and genocide supported and funded by the US, Israel, and the Sunni forces in the region. While their antisemitic rhetoric isn’t part of an active genocidal campaign, this dressed up, “nuanced” arguments in favor of passivity in response to genocide or, and absolutely shame on you, explicit support for the bombing of Yemen that both are contributing to a genocide that is happening right now is a hell of a lot more offensive and disgraceful to me at least. Show me one loving Palestinian organization condemning the Houthis. If the people claiming to be so concerned about the Houthis hurting the Palestinians actually believed the lives of Palestinians had any value and were sincerely concerned about the plight of Gaza as well as merchant mariners the obvious solution is to take action to stop the genocide and by doing so stop the attacks in merchant ships, or at the very least then the Americans could begin to be credible. But no, even saying we should stop the genocide is what provoked and offended people here the most. Shame on you.
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Jan 30, 2024 18:02
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For right now I’m closing this thread because a lot of people need the chill the gently caress out. Don’t bring this up in the CE thread either.
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Jan 30, 2024 18:08
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Thread's open. Don't make me regret this. Oh and SMEGMA_MAIL: Since you're just posting in this thread to build up some CSPAM cred, just don't post in this thread.
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Jan 31, 2024 01:45
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The piracy being 'completely indiscriminate no matter what they claim' is pretty laughably easily disproven by China and Russia not lifting a finger about it. Neither Russia nor China have the ability to project sea power to "lift a finger" for this even if they wanted to. And from their UN votes they clearly do not care at all because its not in their interests.
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Jan 31, 2024 02:10
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M_Gargantua posted:Neither Russia nor China have the ability to project sea power to "lift a finger" for this even if they wanted to. And from their UN votes they clearly do not care at all because its not in their interests. I mean, maybe not Russia, but China theoretically has a pretty hefty fleet. Albeit they probably don't have all the deals across the globe that, say, the US does, that allows them to have a place for their fleet to anchor and resupply and stuff in between operations.
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Jan 31, 2024 02:21
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The fact that China is yelling at Iran and the Houthis publicly is some major finger-lifting from China.
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PurpleXVI posted:I mean, maybe not Russia, but China theoretically has a pretty hefty fleet. Albeit they probably don't have all the deals across the globe that, say, the US does, that allows them to have a place for their fleet to anchor and resupply and stuff in between operations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Support_Base_in_Djibouti
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Yeah China has kept a pretty steady naval presence off the Horn of Africa for close to 15 years now:https://www.cartercenter.org/resources/pdfs/peace/china/trs-05-anti-piracy-engagement.pdf posted:Under UNSC authorization, China dispatched its first naval fleet from Sanya, Hainan Island, to the Gulf of Aden for three months on December 26, 2008, and the fleet arrived on January 6, 2009, with the mission to assist CGPCS. Since then, any Hong Kong, Taiwanese, and China-invested foreign ships could apply for naval escorts. As of June 2019, China has sent 32 naval task forces to escort over 6,600 ships both domestically and abroad. The Chinese Navy’s 32nd naval escort fleet consists of one destroyer, one frigate, and a supply ship—all designed and made in China, and with over 700 crew members. In addition, in the second half of 2010, China sent a hospital ship to the Gulf of Aden. Definitely not to the level of US carrier groups yet but definitely on par with what the UK or France typically send to the area.
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Yup. Only reason China isn't attempting strikes itself is because Xi and Co. know they can just sit back and both let America handle things for them and publicly decry the defense of their interests as "American imperialism".
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I've been thinking about it, trying to find a silver lining for the genocide going on in Gaza, and I think we can all agree that one good thing to come from all of this is finally informing the world about how terrible the Houthis are. I mean, before they started these recent rounds of attacks on shipping in solidarity with Gaza literally nobody was talking about their horrendous antisemitism or whatever. It's a shame it's taking a genocide to bring this to light, but you really have to be grateful to the true champions of truth and justice that have brought the perfidious Houthi to the forefront of the conversation without being distracted by the actions of Israel and their enabler the United States. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Stringent posted:I've been thinking about it, trying to find a silver lining for the genocide going on in Gaza, and I think we can all agree that one good thing to come from all of this is finally informing the world about how terrible the Houthis are. I mean, before they started these recent rounds of attacks on shipping in solidarity with Gaza literally nobody was talking about their horrendous antisemitism or whatever. It's a shame it's taking a genocide to bring this to light, but you really have to be grateful to the true champions of truth and justice that have brought the perfidious Houthi to the forefront of the conversation without being distracted by the actions of Israel and their enabler the United States. Lookit me, I'm touching the poop!
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Stringent posted:I've been thinking about it, trying to find a silver lining for the genocide going on in Gaza, and I think we can all agree that one good thing to come from all of this is finally informing the world about how terrible the Houthis are. I mean, before they started these recent rounds of attacks on shipping in solidarity with Gaza literally nobody was talking about their horrendous antisemitism or whatever. It's a shame it's taking a genocide to bring this to light, but you really have to be grateful to the true champions of truth and justice that have brought the perfidious Houthi to the forefront of the conversation without being distracted by the actions of Israel and their enabler the United States. gently caress off.
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Stringent posted:I've been thinking about it, trying to find a silver lining for the genocide going on in Gaza, and I think we can all agree that one good thing to come from all of this is finally informing the world about how terrible the Houthis are. I mean, before they started these recent rounds of attacks on shipping in solidarity with Gaza literally nobody was talking about their horrendous antisemitism or whatever. It's a shame it's taking a genocide to bring this to light, but you really have to be grateful to the true champions of truth and justice that have brought the perfidious Houthi to the forefront of the conversation without being distracted by the actions of Israel and their enabler the United States. hmm yes please can you elaborate more on this?
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How come every post against is just a bingo card of fallacies instead of trying to address concerns and win people over
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lightpole posted:How come every post against is just a bingo card of fallacies instead of trying to address concerns and win people over What's even worse is that right after this started most of us were saying "Yup, this is looking like genocide" and really, nothing's changed. Maybe we're not shouting into the void loudly enough?
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A.o.D. posted:What's even worse is that right after this started most of us were saying "Yup, this is looking like genocide" and really, nothing's changed. Maybe we're not shouting into the void loudly enough? Nope you have to pick a side. Not the Houthis? Well good luck trying to wash that blood off your hands you are pulling the trigger yourself. gently caress I work with Yemenis, there are a lot in the US merchant marine. Houthis have a long way to go before I'll be backing their legitimacy.
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Stringent posted:I've been thinking about it, trying to find a silver lining for the genocide going on in Gaza, and I think we can all agree that one good thing to come from all of this is finally informing the world about how terrible the Houthis are. I mean, before they started these recent rounds of attacks on shipping in solidarity with Gaza literally nobody was talking about their horrendous antisemitism or whatever. It's a shame it's taking a genocide to bring this to light, but you really have to be grateful to the true champions of truth and justice that have brought the perfidious Houthi to the forefront of the conversation without being distracted by the actions of Israel and their enabler the United States. hmmm cringe imo
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Edit- nm, this is poop touching, and I’m not trying to touch the poop on purpose. LtCol J. Krusinski fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jan 31, 2024 |
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A guy just committed perfidy in a wheelchair and all you people want to talk about is boats.
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The I/P conflict has been liquidating people's brains since the middle of the 20th century, guess that's not going to be changing anytime soon.
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Borscht posted:A guy just committed perfidy in a wheelchair and all you people want to talk about is boats. It’s hard to have much to say about extremely clear-cut crimes beyond “That sucks and the people who did it sucks.”, to be honest. At least talking about the Houthis there's something to discuss. Israel's always going to be the greater evil since they have more firepower and are very willing to do evil things to use it. EDIT: Also, the reason why I am so hard on the Houthis is BECAUSE they claim to be doing it for Gaza. I care for Palestinian liberation a lot, which is why I don't like groups who want to use the Palestinian cause to boost their reputation while doing nothing to actually help them. Especially since the Houthis suck poo poo themselves to the point that their own ex-spokesperson thinks the US is propping them up secretly because despite being "evil terrorists of the worst caliber" is his words, they're better to deal with than the hopelessly corrupt other government of Yemen. I think they're a possible anchor around Gaza's neck in the future. Kchama fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Jan 31, 2024 |
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Jan 31, 2024 09:49
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No images but content warning for descriptions of harrowing medical treatment of children/babies. https://x.com/ichotiner/status/1752423663431991800?s=46&t=fppHBZSlD4AbSz5pJxjFMQ
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/30/israeli-soldiers-disguise-west-bank-hospital-hamas/ Also since I don't think it was talked about here yet. Isn't it kind of a war crime to disguise your soldiers as doctors and civilians, walk into a hospital and gun down unarmed wounded "terrorists" in their hospital beds?
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