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FogHelmut posted:no, the score is better, and probably the effects, and the budget mainly. annoying kids aside, arnold was in peak arnold mode by 1991. Obviously the budget and thus effects are much bigger. Is that enough to make a movie better? The original is gritty, realistic, harsh and dramatic. The sequel turned Arnold into a good guy - the opposite of the impact of the original. And has a kid lead.
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The score from T1 is so much better it's not even funny.
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redshirt posted:Obviously the budget and thus effects are much bigger. Is that enough to make a movie better? The original is gritty, realistic, harsh and dramatic. The sequel turned Arnold into a good guy - the opposite of the impact of the original. And has a kid lead. yeah kids suck, they're lovely actors, and their sassyness around adults is not believable, and the other dialogue was poo poo "get ahold of yourself john." blah blah blah.
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Irradiation posted:The score from T1 is so much better it's not even funny. yeah i guess if you're into "irony" or whatever with cheesy casio operations going on
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Fetus Tree posted:i liked the terminator that had christian bale in it You are stupid.
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And don't get me wrong, T2 IS awesome. I'm just saying it's not as awesome as the original. I mean, the police station scene in T1 is far better than anything in any other T movie.
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Kirk Johnson posted:Why the gently caress would you make infiltration units look like giant muscly dudes? they're going to stand out a mile when people are malnourished and living in sewer tunnels. YOU WEREN'T THINKING THIS THROUGH JAMES CAMERON Sure he was. Do you remember how loving HUGE the endoskeleton is? If they're going to stuff that in a flesh package, they're going to need a drat big shell. This really plays well into the T1000 being far smaller, more regular looking. A clear improvement on infiltration, because his very nature wouldn't require a massive metal frame. We'll ignore the TX since quite frankly, that was an hilariously terrible hybrid of a regular Terminator and a T1000.
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redshirt posted:And don't get me wrong, T2 IS awesome. I'm just saying it's not as awesome as the original. police station is badass, "i'll be back" is badass, tech noir is badass, phase plasma rifles in the 40 watt range are badass, sarah's roommate playing drums with celery is badass. Blazing Ownager posted:
also it had "X" in the name which is pretty lovely and lazy way to try to sound badass, like imagine if the endoskeleton was also flat "tactical" black.
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FogHelmut posted:yeah i guess if you're into "irony" or whatever with cheesy casio operations going on This legitimately owns sorry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ywnTKg3OtY
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FogHelmut posted:police station is badass, "i'll be back" is badass, tech noir is badass, phase plasma rifles in the 40 watt range are badass, sarah's roommate playing drums with celery is badass. Oh hell yeah, Tech Noir scene is the best.
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OK, for the record, I hate what Lucas did/inspired with directors going back to fix their older works, or adjust special effects. But is there anyone in here that would complain if the Terminator got a re-release with the stop motion effects digitally smoothed out? It's literally the only part of the movie that really has not aged well. The other practical effects look great. ED: I also submit that "Flying into the atmosphere processor" scene is the only one that aged badly in Aliens, too. Not many 86 movies I'd say that about. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Agent Escalus posted:But Salvation was better than 3. gently caress 3 forever. ahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah Nope.
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I apologize, as I did not realize there is a T2 thread. CU there.
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I liked Salvation well enough. I liked the main actors, I thought the atmosphere was pretty rich and it was finally a movie about the future war that we'd never gotten. The opening action scene is REALLY strong, but the movie sort of peters out until the climax after that. Skynet's plan is kind of dumb and they don't do enough with the terminator dude in it. Helena Bonham Carter being the face of Skynet wasn't all that impressive either. I always interpreted the Arnold cameo in that movie to be that--in this new timeline--to be the original Terminator that we see in T1. It'd make sense if this is a new timeline--and thus there's no guarantee of success or that events will play out as relayed by the time travelers before--and thus Skynet has not yet attempted to assisinate Connor in the past yet, presumably because he still isn't the commander of the rebels, but just some popular soldier. So in that factory place, John faces the literal T1 Terminator.
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The only good action in Salvation is at the start and the end.
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T3 best movie in the franchise because they nuked humanity. 10/10, all movies should end this way.
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Blazing Ownager posted:OK, for the record, I hate what Lucas did/inspired with directors going back to fix their older works, or adjust special effects. Today's effects to rerelease? Where's the kickstarter?
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Lowen SoDium posted:So it fooled the time portal? given that it came through as a human, yes. lol do you think people touching the t-1000 would feel metal or something? goons can't watch films
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Blazing Ownager posted:OK, for the record, I hate what Lucas did/inspired with directors going back to fix their older works, or adjust special effects. So long as any release also comes with the original version, Im all for something like this
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The long rear end monologue at the end of Salvation explaining everything that happened in the movie for people too stupid to figure out what they just watched for the past hour an a half is indefensible garbage. The rest was decent to passable but that scene was grade A poo poo.
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Why not shove a laser gun into a salami or something to send it back in time? Or in a cow's butt?
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Yodzilla posted:The long rear end monologue at the end of Salvation explaining everything that happened in the movie for people too stupid to figure out what they just watched for the past hour an a half is indefensible garbage. The rest was decent to passable but that scene was grade A poo poo. Terminator Salvation was grade A poo poo.
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I'm gonna be the guy who points out that you can hear Arnold's penis slapping his thigh when he's walking around naked at the beginning of Terminator whatever foley artist came up with that didn't get paid nearly enough newreply.php posted:theres a terminator called Cromartie in TSCC and i thought that was maybe what the last GBS title referred to. the plotline where you find out that the human they modeled Cromartie off of was a B-movie actor so you had people thinking the star of Beastwizard has inexplicably become a mass-murderer was loving awesome  same with the story about a Terminator who hosed up time travel and wound up in the 1920s so he became a successful building mogul by hiring blacks and chinese and then had himself walled up in one of his own hotels and just went into sleep mode for a century Al Cowens posted:COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE LIVE WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO COME 
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T3 had one decent piece of writing and that was the switch for johns saftey because "judgement day is inevitable". Oh and arnold casually tossing a low yeild nuke out the car window before it explodes. good times.
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How does anyone say Salvation was better than 3? I mean Salvation had cringeworthy as gently caress romance between a robot and a hot brunette how more off the rails crazy do u get help me out here
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Fat Ogre posted:The T-1000 isn't living tissue. So how in the gently caress did it come back in time?
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TryAgainBragg posted:T3 had one decent piece of writing and that was the switch for johns saftey because "judgement day is inevitable". Oh and arnold casually tossing a low yeild nuke out the car window before it explodes. good times. If you watch it now and go in with the expectation that it's not a great film, then it's a lot of fun. There's plenty of cool action scenes leading up to the truly great ending. It's no where near the level of T1 and T2 though. For example, a scoring system: T1: 98 T2: 94 T3: 73 T4: 68
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Fat Ogre posted:I saw T2 in the theater when I was a kid and while I loved it, it has a lot of problems you guys gloss over in your love of it. Guess what nerd time travel isn't real so it doesn't matter even a little bit
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...of SCIENCE! posted:I'm gonna be the guy who points out that you can hear Arnold's penis slapping his thigh when he's walking around naked at the beginning of Terminator I believe he got paid too much, because its not visible in the original, just in the high deff version.. it was quite the floppy surprise.
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redshirt posted:If you watch it now and go in with the expectation that it's not a great film, then it's a lot of fun. There's plenty of cool action scenes leading up to the truly great ending. hey buddy you accidentally switched t1s score with t2
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Dubious posted:This piece of poo poo invalidated T2, gently caress this movie. 1/10 whoa whoa, T2 is still awesome
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When you don't scroll down enough it looks a second woman is giving that guy head
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At first glance I was like "holy poo poo that guy is wearing a squirrel!" But when I looked better I was like "holy poo poo that guy is wearing a squirrel!"
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