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Monstrous Dooklord posted:if anyone wonders why modern cinema is in the state it's in just count how many posts are in any given movie (Star Wars, Jarassic Park, Avengers) thread "they're supposed to be mindless fun!!" "they're not the best but, explosions Odds are 3 to 1 some of your favorite movies are 80s genre trash that slipped in a ton of material that would never fly in a kid's movie today like Gremlins or Poltergeist or even the Goonies with the cave of "One-Eyed Willy." Monstrous Dooklord posted:please take your kids to watch good movies instead of a 3 hour jerk fest for stunted man children  PLEASE THINK OF THE REAL CINEMA
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" and my favorite "it's a kids* movie!!!"
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Monstrous Dooklord posted:if anyone wonders why modern cinema is in the state it's in just count how many posts are in any given movie (Star Wars, Jarassic Park, Avengers) thread "they're supposed to be mindless fun!!" "they're not the best but, explosions Avengers 2 wasn't mindless it was a solid action movie that followed the source material rather faithfully.
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Cinema shouldn't be this thing you take ultraseriously but if you want to, there are films you can watch to do that instead of crying about other movies that are a good time (like Avengers 2).
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May 4, 2015 08:13
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mind the walrus posted:Odds are 3 to 1 some of your favorite movies are 80s genre trash that slipped in a ton of material that would never fly in a kid's movie today like Gremlins or Poltergeist or even the Goonies with the cave of "One-Eyed Willy." I like sports movies
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May 4, 2015 08:34
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The Taint Reaper posted:Avengers 2 wasn't mindless it was a solid action movie that followed the source material rather faithfully. there's no tension, there's no stakes or anything invested, nothing bad happens, and the source material isn't for kids it's for adult men - the toys sell themselves because kids are stupid, it's people with jobs that buy tickets
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May 4, 2015 08:36
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burritolingus posted:Cinema shouldn't be this thing you take ultraseriously but if you want to, there are films you can watch to do that instead of crying about other movies that are a good time (like Avengers 2). Cinema isn't something I take ultra seriously, I'm too burned out on super hero crap and avengies 2 was probably the last one I'll see. The fact that people are flippant about a really bad movie just because they have some stupid loyalty to cartoon characters or whatever is pretty lol and goony thou
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May 4, 2015 08:38
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Monstrous Dooklord posted:there's no tension, there's no stakes or anything invested, nothing bad happens
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Monstrous Dooklord posted:Cinema isn't something I take ultra seriously, I'm too burned out on super hero crap and avengies 2 was probably the last one I'll see. The fact that people are flippant about a really bad movie just because they have some stupid loyalty to cartoon characters or whatever is pretty lol and goony thou I'm not going to write words and words defending it but "really bad" is best saved for actual bad movies. avengers 2 has its flaws but I'd say "really bad" isn't apt. I may be a bit of an apologist in general though because there would have to be obvious technical flaws or downright painful acting before I started calling things really bad. I'd rate avengers 2 along the line of "totally mediocre despite a budget and hype it could never live up to"
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Monstrous Dooklord posted:I like sports movies I do too, even if they are formulaic and most of the characters are really shallow. Monstrous Dooklord posted:Cinema isn't something I take ultra seriously, I'm too burned out on super hero crap and avengies 2 was probably the last one I'll see. The fact that people are flippant about a really bad movie just because they have some stupid loyalty to cartoon characters or whatever is pretty lol and goony thou You're literally 15 years late to the party on this. Close your eyes nigga. Monstrous Dooklord posted:there's no tension, there's no stakes or anything invested, nothing bad happens, and the source material isn't for kids it's for adult men - the toys sell themselves because kids are stupid, it's people with jobs that buy tickets That's because they're soap operas where the primary draw is watching a diverse bunch of very archetypal characters with loosely different genre trappings (war pulp, monster science, Arthurian-Norse fantasy, high-tech espionage) clash into each other. The Ultron crap is an excuse to let all of that happen, and I agree the action sequences go on for way too long. People like worse poo poo for worse reasons. I don't care if you don't like some summer movies but the very reasons you deride it as dumb highlights your inability to see why people like it and that's both ironic and goony as gently caress.
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mind the walrus posted:That's because they're soap operas where the primary draw is watching a diverse bunch of very archetypal characters with loosely different genre trappings (war pulp, monster science, Arthurian-Norse fantasy, high-tech espionage) clash into each other. The Ultron crap is an excuse to let all of that happen, and I agree the action sequences go on for way too long. People like worse poo poo for worse reasons. I don't care if you don't like some summer movies but the very reasons you deride it as dumb highlights your inability to see why people like it and that's both ironic and goony as gently caress. Yea, Id be cool with a movie that was nothing but out of costume jawing at each other. They're fun actors with fun chemistry and despite the action scenes being very impressive they're breaking up the best parts of the movie. I propose the following spin offs for marvel phase q; 1 everyone meets back up at hawkeyes for a fun weekend, iron man and cap have to get that drat tractor running in time for the town parade on sunday, the rest of the team is tasked with decorating the float to be pulled by said tractor. 2. the dinner from the end of avengers 1 is the whole movie 3. its kids get in free day at stark land the tony stark theme park, 7 of the adult chaperons go down hard as a result of a trip to the lovely all you can eat chinese place the night before, Stark must rely on 6 allies he saved the world with for their biggest challenge yet, keeping an eye on all these loving kids! edit: 4. the same as spin off idea 3 but instead of stark land its a stark scholarship science fair and the 6 judges go down blah blah needs 6 allies to help judge this age 8-10 science fair 5. hulks sister is a hard working single mom who has to go out of town for the week for a very big job interview, nerdy bruce banner is stuck watching this baby, he calls hawkeye who isnt home and thus must rely on tony and cap to help him watch this drat baby, 3 men and a baby reboot with bruce, tony and cap (i say reboot cause 3 men and a baby is full of weird 80s poo poo that dont fly today so not really a remake) Yea, Id pay $30 or whatever the gently caress a movie costs nowadays to see any of these because I like watching those characters gripe at each other, regardless of who the evil villain getting punched is, or why said evil villain is being punched. Cyberball 2072 fucked around with this message at 10:27 on May 4, 2015 |
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Cyberball 2072 posted:Yea, Id be cool with a movie that was nothing but out of costume jawing at each other. They're fun actors with fun chemistry and despite the action scenes being very impressive they're breaking up the best parts of the movie. I propose the following spin offs for marvel phase q; The action scenes are necessary to give the soap operatics some punctuation and context, so you'd need to have a bit of that (it's a time-honored tradition in superhero comics where the focus is on downtime that some frivolous bullshit forces an action sequence), but yeah I'd be down with any of these ideas. The Science Fair idea is easily the best one too I want a spec script sent to Disney before the week is up.
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hemophilia posted:100% faithful to the source
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Enfield posted:i dont know what any of that means i hope that lady in your av got help with her anorexia
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May 4, 2015 10:49
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quakster posted:in the comics ultron is more successful at murdering civilians. gotta keep the movies kid-friendly i saw iron man 3 and some kid was having a birthday party with his friends or something because there was a big group of little kids and parents clumped together in my small town theater like 4 weeks after release and it was great imagining the looks on some of those parents faces when the terrorism and death to america poo poo started going because these kids couldnt have been more than like 9 or 10
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Robo Reagan posted:i saw iron man 3 and some kid was having a birthday party with his friends or something because there was a big group of little kids and parents clumped together in my small town theater like 4 weeks after release and it was great imagining the looks on some of those parents faces when the terrorism and death to america poo poo started going because these kids couldnt have been more than like 9 or 10 those loving kids better be able to handle marvel, i saw the toxic avenger when i was 7
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quakster posted:those loving kids better be able to handle marvel, i saw the toxic avenger when i was 7 Yeah I know how having kids totally changes the way your brain works and that a lot of the "kids are pussies" today crowd really do go too far and don't recognize that kids literally don't have fully-formed brains... but at the same time if you want these kids to survive in the world at all you've got to let them see poo poo you don't personally approve of and learn to contextualize it or they'll turn out all weird and socially mal-adjusted.
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mind the walrus posted:Yeah I know how having kids totally changes the way your brain works and that a lot of the "kids are pussies" today crowd really do go too far and don't recognize that kids literally don't have fully-formed brains... but at the same time if you want these kids to survive in the world at all you've got to let them see poo poo you don't personally approve of and learn to contextualize it or they'll turn out all weird and socially mal-adjusted. nah our generation is absolutely hosed no matter what because half of us shut down if they're not full of mocha latte from starbucks and the other half is trying to change the world by facebook activism what im trying to say is death to america
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Robo Reagan posted:nah our generation is absolutely hosed no matter what because half of us shut down if they're not full of mocha latte from starbucks and the other half is trying to change the world by facebook activism Praise be to Allah
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all comic book movies are GARBAGE is what a humourless fuckshit who never gets invited out to parties says theyre fun and good lighten up or gently caress off to CinD
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Moola posted:all comic book movies are GARBAGE
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Moola posted:all comic book movies are GARBAGE any dc movie would like to have a word with you
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still don't understand why they gave ultron a mouth and moving lips I wanted the trailer ultron dammit
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The Real Foogla posted:still don't understand why they gave ultron a mouth and moving lips To make it easier for him to express emotion.
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May 4, 2015 13:51
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Pick posted:black widow is sterile, i.e. a monster Yeah that part was really weird and totally a Whedon thing.
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May 4, 2015 15:18
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They can just make her a baby in that hero factory or whatever
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May 4, 2015 15:48
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burritolingus posted:Yeah that part was really weird and totally a Whedon thing. I forgot about that..yeah, it was loving stupid.
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Pick posted:black widow is sterile, i.e. a monster I thought she was saying she was a monster because she was created to do nothing but kill, I though the sterility thing was kind of a secondary point
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It was Whedon trying to be deep and clever, like "she can't make life she can only take life," but 1) it really wasn't deep or clever, and 2) it really didn't fit the tone of a film that's supposed to be this fun superhero action thing for kids, oh and 3) that's really weird for people who can't have kids. But other than that one really stupid Whedon moment, it was good. burritolingus fucked around with this message at 16:10 on May 4, 2015 |
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May 4, 2015 16:08
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the best part was in the hulk black widow romance, where banner turned into hulk and banged her with his monster tree trunk hog, and she just took it like a champ
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I liked the part when everyone was trying to pick up viking man's hammer but they couldn't and then patriot man made it squeak a bit Josh Whedon is a genius
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