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So someone suggested to Braulio that he do a video to invite all of his affiliate clubs in the UK to our annual xmas gathering. As usual he got a little carried away...
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imtheism posted:Yo, I train down south in Tukwila @ ringdemon, if it was me you were thinking of. Come to ringdemon- we beat all of marcelo's guys anyways Does Trevor Smith train with you guys? Saw him tonight on Strikeforce and his grappling looks awesome, especially for a bigger dude.
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I've been choked out during training twice this week. The first time was a triangle choke; it started as a guard pass with an underhook on my opponents leg, but he started to attack with a collar choke. When I hesitated for a moment to fight his grip, he swung his hips out, and slapped on a tight triangle real quick. I felt like I made a mistake to set it up for him, but he did a good job of making me think about the collar choke. In hindsight I should've made sure to pin his other leg/hips down before hand-fighting the gi choke. And then today I went in for a light roll (on just four hours sleep after working at the club late last night), and I got caught with a darce choke. Both times were against guys I would consider around my skill level (new blue belts), so I'm really hoping that this just means my training partners are getting better instead of the alternative which is that I'm getting sloppy/careless. Oh well, more fuel to train harder.
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Wanna know something super frustrating? Over rotating the best uchimata you've ever pulled in a match, and getting the ippon waved off.
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swmmrmanshen posted:Wanna know something super frustrating? Over rotating the best uchimata you've ever pulled in a match, and getting the ippon waved off. Ouch, got video of that?
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Cyphoderus posted:Here's a really stupid question, but bear with me I'm just getting started. The strength it requires is more about moving your own body to certain positions than about manipulating the opponent. Certain movements and techniques, sweeps from guard and the bottom of the mount, require you to control a couple of limbs on the opponent, which requires almost no strength, but also to then move your own body in a certain way which sometimes requires a bit of strength from you just to get through the motions with enough explosiveness that the opponent won't have time to re-establish his balance before its too late for him. It usually isn't a lot, but it's more than 0. Short version: BJJ is the combative application of sit-ups.
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Some gameplanning notes following sparring on Thursday: Mike used to compete for the US National Sanshou team, so he's got a lot of experience and very skilled. Tall and reachy, but pretty skinny. Hip dysplasia means that he won't really kick, especially not just for sparring. Maybe something really low line. His speed is good but his reaction time and reading ability are excellent. Stands orthodox. A lot of his style (now that he doesn't kick) reminds me of Nick Diaz -- loose, high volume punching coming forward, good at going to the body during combos. Absolutely do not let him keep coming in. Don't retreat straight back. If you need to give way, circle to his outside or duck under his right cross and slip to his inside and tie up. Mike is indifferent to front kicks. Don't hang it out too long and you'll be ok. He doesn't capitalize as hard as he could off of them. Doesn't mean you can drop your guard, though. If he's putting lots of pressure on you and coming forward with straight punches, keep your guard high and tight and land an inside leg kick. Because he fights tall and tends to sit for his power shots, that lead leg is vulnerable. You might not kick it out, but it will halt his progress and take the juice off his right straights and hooks. From southpaw, you can also dig into the lead leg from the outside. Just make sure your guard is up through the whole kick or your going to get hit with a cross. Also make sure you can recover to a stable stance after the kick, or he'll keep marching at you. If you're slowing down, bait him into attacking your head and duck under, firing to his body. But don't make it a habit, as he'll uppercut you coming in eventually. From orthodox, I was letting my jab hand come down and getting caught. Keep the guard high and keep the head moving. React right away if he punches -- don't let him build rhythm. Because of his reach, you can't afford to stay on the outside. If you're just inside his firing range, give a beat, kick, then get out. Mix that up with a punch combo and tie up or kick. If you're on the outside, you need to keep moving your head and not giving him a reason to jab you. Constant slipping. Stopping is death. Worst case scenario, if you're at a loss for how to initiate, just duck under and tie up with him. Whatever you do, don't stand straight up and start letting him initiate punching. Close up, Mike is expert with the rear uppercut. Expect that to land to your belly or chin. If you're orthodox, stay tight chest to chest, and during breaks, make sure you have your chin tucked behind your left shoulder. That'll cover you for hooks. Fade away to the outside and back to try to get away from an uppercut. From the inside, it's ok to headhunt. Mike will lean and fade to get away from followup punches, and that's one way you can break. Expect to eat a few bunches either way, though. If you're southpaw, underhook his lead arm and get you head on his lead shoulder. Your head will be safe; just make sure to block for your body. To break, release the underhook and do left hook right uppercut. Because of my weight advantage (30+ lbs), I can push him away fairly easily. I even landed a hip throw when he wasn't expecting it. By far the main theme is to stay tight to him and to really keep your eyes open to watch for the uppercut. Trading in close is far preferable to getting owned on the outside.
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Smegmatron posted:Short version: BJJ is the combative application of sit-ups. This is probably the best description of jui jitsu's strength vs no strength thing. A lot of transitions and a couple of subs require a little bit of strength input to overcome your opponent's strength. Also a lot of high-level practitioners like to go on about how they don't expend any strength beating white belts on the mat because they flow like water or something. On the other hand, the high level college wrestlers I train with roll like a dam to their river. The best strategy to utilize your strength against a superior jitz opponent (they say) is to explode in transitions so quickly and forcefully that there isn't an opportunity to 'flow' without expending a significant amount of energy. That's my strategy. I'm not the best at jui jitsu, but I'm smart enough with pressure that I don't give a lot of my low-mid level opponents a chance to flow along my movement. I wish more people talked about how to use smart wrestling to neutralize good jui-jitsu.
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that is really interesting and very true. I'm not very explosive, but I can move myself really well and I guess flow with positions. I always have trouble with guys that just explode out of positions. Even when their technique isn't great, its just so physically overwhelming, its hard to maintain a grip or transition intelligently. The only thing that helps me is that, in longer rounds, they really struggle to maintain that intensity and I can just kind of keep chugging along at my pace.
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^Maybe if you could predict how/when they are going to explode you could more effectively "ride" it and make them waste their energy. Explosive people (I hear) gas out quicker. I dunno I suck really bad and am a year out of practice but I do think about this stuff regularly.
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Xguard86 posted:that is really interesting and very true. I'm not very explosive, but I can move myself really well and I guess flow with positions. I always have trouble with guys that just explode out of positions. Even when their technique isn't great, its just so physically overwhelming, its hard to maintain a grip or transition intelligently. What technique I have makes it pretty easy to predict where transitions and subs are going to come from. When I see them coming I just explode into/in a random direction out of it. I've never had problems gassing myself because most opponents can't keep up with the movement, and end up gassing themselves trying to force their move.
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People who are really strong and explosive but don't have much technique aren't very scary. People who are all technique but not very athletic can be kinda scary, but people with both are terrifying. The ones that stay calm and controlled while they're training, and then hulk out in tournaments. I think that's probably the ideal way to be.
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The Strength and Conditioning Journal released an issue focused on combat sports: http://journals.lww.com/nsca-scj/pages/currenttoc.aspx
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Hey if anyone's looking for a great way to cut weight, just get infected with a norovirus! shits awesome i've lost like 5kg in one day oh god make it stop
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Illegal Username posted:Hey if anyone's looking for a great way to cut weight, just get infected with a norovirus! shits awesome i've lost like 5kg in one day oh god make it stop Shut up! I had to escort a noro virus patient that had left quarantine, and even though I was wearing rubber gloves and a mouth cover I'm terrified that I could get it. Incubation time is 12-48 hours, so.. I've got 30ish hours to go before I feel safe. :l
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:The Strength and Conditioning Journal released an issue focused on combat sports: Does anybody have access to these? The periodicals at my university library are delayed by six months so I won't be able to read it until May next year  "Strength and Conditioning for Grappling Sports," "Dietary Supplements Used in Combat Sports," "Applications of Kettlebells in Exercise Program Design," and "Nutrition and Hydration Issues for Combat Sport Athletes" all sound awesome and incredibly useful based on their abstracts.
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I have a question about general martial arts teaching attitude. Why is does there seem to be an attitude that you need to demonstrate that you are much better than people who are just starting / below you. I saw a few quotes earlier in the thread about "breaking" people who are new (with context of holds iirc). Why is there this approach? It was very off-putting to me- I know as a beginner that you are probably much better than me, you don't need to constantly beat me to demonstrate this. It was actually what put me off doing martial arts- I had been doing naginata for around a year and it was one of my first times in armor. Our teacher was doing it just to get us newbies used to it, a few striking exercises of something they'd just showing using each other as a target. I was paired off with the less senior teacher, and I was having difficulty getting everything right as I was unused to the armor. So the other teacher started wailing on my sune(shins) as I was "taking too long". It was really really off-putting and didn't make me feel comfortable as it was not a sparring session it was just using each other as targets in turns. After that I stopped turning up as frequently as that teacher kinda scared me. I complained to the other teacher as to me it was bullying (they were never like that to other students) but they brushed it off as "the kendo way of doing things" as that one also taught kendo. It really felt like there was a teacher who wanted to demonstrate they were better. And the adversarial macho theme running through martial arts as I've experienced seems really unnecessary and off-putting. Antinumeric fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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Yeah, that stuff all looks extremely interesting. Is there a way to buy a physical copy?Antinumeric posted:It really felt like there was a teacher who wanted to demonstrate they were better. And the adversarial macho theme running through martial arts as I've experienced seems really unnecessary. The problem is, in BJJ in particular, you get a lot of big douchebags who've watched a few UFCs and think they're the ultimate fighting machine. They treat their first lesson like they are trying their hardest to actually kill every person they train with. They accidentally break the arm of one student, and accidentally dislocate the knee of another. They cause injuries because they haven't learned the correct mindset to study martial arts. So you dance around them and pick them apart, you defeat their enormous outbursts of muscle-fury by calmly and technically picking them apart. They will either begin to notice the pattern, calm down a bit, and attempt to learn technique, or they won't be able to handle it, and they'll leave. They're likely to say something like "Everyone at this school is a pussy. I train to FIGHT" or something. They probably wear a tapout shirt and beat their wife. The idea isn't to show off how big your ego is. The idea is to school the people who haven't learned to put their ego aside yet. Once they calm down, learn some control, and stop injuring their fellow students, they're ready for you to treat them nicely. Some people come in that door with a good attitude to begin with, and you treat them with the same respect that they treat you. Some people walk in the door trying to prove something, and they treat training as a warzone. Those people are poison to the gym. When I was brand new, I was blown away by the skill of the higher belts: it showed me how deep the rabbit hole went, how much I had to learn, and how good I could be if I stuck with it. We have this enormous guido guy at our gym who used to have his friend sit on the side of the class with a cameraphone and film him tapping the other whitebelts, and then he'd look smug at the camera every time he did it. He had arms like tree trunks, refused to wear a gi (so he was at an enormous advantage even if he wasn't so strong) and he was basically beating the poo poo out of eighteen year old girls. Suffice to say, the higher belts took a liking to rolling with him, he got tapped twice a minute for the next six months, and nowadays he seems to have calmed down, rolls like he's trying to learn. 02-6611-0142-1 fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:Stuff Mmmm I see; it's more about knocking down the big egos and stopping them from being dangerous to the class. So long as it is not applied to everyone I can understand it. I guess what happened to me was different (Or I'm actually a dick irl and haven't realised it). One question: Why does not wearing a gi give you an advantage?
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A gi gives your opponent something to hang on to and control you with as well as offering up a few extra submission options. If your opponent wears one and you don't, you can grab onto it and use it to gain better leverage, maintain a position with more certainty or sink in a choke that just isn't an option for them. Antinumeric posted:I have a question about general martial arts teaching attitude. Why is does there seem to be an attitude that you need to demonstrate that you are much better than people who are just starting / below you. I saw a few quotes earlier in the thread about "breaking" people who are new (with context of holds iirc). Why is there this approach? It was very off-putting to me- I know as a beginner that you are probably much better than me, you don't need to constantly beat me to demonstrate this. What the robot said, basically. I can't speak for anything but my own admittedly limited experiences with BJJ, but my experience as a BJJ newbie has been nothing but positive. My instructors are chilled out and the guys with more experience than me are more than happy to take the time to answer questions or help clarify things. I came in with humility and an open mind and I was welcomed emphatically. Its been great. We do get the occasional muscle head come in to try it out and sometimes it does take them a while to learn a bit of that humility and open mindedness. Maybe they're dumb but it generally isn't until they've been thoroughly dominated that they start to settle down and start wondering why it is they keep passing out while people are adjusting their collars for them. Where I train, newbies aren't allowed to roll for the first week or two, until an instructor feels like they aren't a danger to themselves or others, but there's always going to be that guy who wants to go hell for leather and do some serious damage because he saw or on TV. Those are the guys people talk about "breaking in." It's about establishing respect. Newbies need to respect the fact that they've just dipped their toe into the shallow end of a very deep pool. If they don't, they gently caress with other people and disrupt their learning, which is unacceptable. Smegmatron fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Nov 21, 2011 |
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yes, its not like everyone who comes through the door is going to take a beating, its just the guys who seem like they need to settle down a little bit. The alternative is just asking them not to come back, but sometimes when you break people like that down with superior technique, they actually get a clue and become good students. A lot of times, their stupid behavior is just a huge desire to be good and improve, expressed without realizing the best way to really go about it. Now some guys are straight up assholes/sociopaths who will never learn. They usually quit, but if not, should be kicked out of class before they do more harm, but that's really, really rare.
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Smegmatron posted:Does anybody have access to these? The periodicals at my university library are delayed by six months so I won't be able to read it until May next year I posted about it on fitocracy in the Martial Arts Goons group. I took a skim over some of the articles and they look incredibly awesome (with pictures, tables, and all!). Thanks Lt. Shiny-sides! Being one of the lower ranked students I'm usually paired up with the newbies. God drat I hate how a lot of them are spazzy. Last week I rolled with 2 new students that I thought had passed the spazzy stage - I was going super slow with one of them and I let him get an americana on me and he cranked my god drat arm like there was no tomorrow. The other one I took his back and instead of applying a choke I disengaged and rolled away. He turned around and lunged at/tackled me, knocking me on my back and the wind out of me. The instructor and upper belts did not like that at all and proceeded to knock down these new students a couple pegs. I love how the upper ranks have my back.  Also naginata is loving cool. Bangkero fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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Smegmatron posted:Does anybody have access to these? The periodicals at my university library are delayed by six months so I won't be able to read it until May next year I just gave them a read and they are pretty interesting. I'll definitely be incorporating some of the stuff they recommend into my routine and classes. I'm not sure if sharing them would be considered :warez: or not, especially since I don't have PMs. Here's the details on the issue for anybody searching their university's database: Strength & Conditioning Journal ISSN: 1524-1602 (C) 2011 National Strength and Conditioning Association Issue: Volume 33(6) pgs. 1-92 December 2011
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Bangkero posted:Also naginata is loving cool. It's great fun and I'll go back to it if that teacher moves / stops turning up. Nothing is more humbling than watching the womens world championships. I was thinking of picking up HEMA in the meantime. I went a few times at the start of the year and it was pretty fun. Just need to get back in the routine, maybe convince a friend to join me.
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:The Strength and Conditioning Journal released an issue focused on combat sports: Really awesome, haven't read it yet but printed it. Will read the most interesting articles tonight but will probably read the whole thing this week. Will report after reading. e: read the two on strength and conditioning completely and skimmed the rest and it's extremely interesting. I highly suggest reading them if you have access to a University Database. I'm probably going to modify my current strength training routine in the next few months to include things that I think make senses and are feasible with the time I have/equipment at the gym I go to KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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A bit of a one sentence summary on a couple of articles for those without access: Hoffman & Maresh - Nutrition for Combat Sports Not bad, but just very basic stuff on athlete nutrition nothing really specific to combat sports other than some loose guidelines on dehydration. Ratamess - Conditioning for Grappling Better than the nutrition article but still fairly generic, you can find this kind of info all over the net. Turner et al. - Increasing Impact Forces of The Rear Hand Punch Very cool! While their technique on the punch may differ from what some combat sports use the way they break down the components of the punch is great and really well thought out. I think this paper is going to have a big impact on my research in the future. I'll finish reading the rest and give more summaries/more indepth if you guys want. KingColliwog how are your going to change you routine? I can give you some help if you want.
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Antinumeric posted:I have a question about general martial arts teaching attitude. Why is does there seem to be an attitude that you need to demonstrate that you are much better than people who are just starting / below you. I saw a few quotes earlier in the thread about "breaking" people who are new (with context of holds iirc). Why is there this approach? It was very off-putting to me- I know as a beginner that you are probably much better than me, you don't need to constantly beat me to demonstrate this. The robot & co. answered pretty well as for grapplers. I've luckily never met egotistical assholes while rolling, the Alliance BJJ coaches when they started coaching at the club I go to were positively surprised how well everyone respected each other and attributed it to the fact most of us already knew each other from boxing, SD or something. I feel there are for some reason less assholes and twerps who think they are headed for the UFC that start striking though. UFC, and BJJ's status as a tough guy sport used to gather quite a bit of jerks. Anyway the delusional strikers often, when there are any, are in such a poor shape they are more of a nuisance than a danger but on the extremely rare occasion I've heard about someone who comes along and starts seriously hurting people they are educated by the more senior practitioners - just for the safety of everyone present. And who the gently caress wants to train at a gym that unleashes a sociopath to injure customers? After that they almost* invariably change for the better or leave never to return. Both of which are better options than having them around to KO or hurt normal people. *There's actually one or two guys who go to the same gym who sort of flip off a bit when sparring. Always go a little too hard and can't seem to help themselves even when drilling with lighter women - but they are genuinely sorry if they hurt someone so you can't be angry for long. I guess they are just built to spazz and become so nervous/excited they can't help it. It's almost as if they regularly forget the extent other people are capable of feeling pain but not in a malicious way. This is hard to explain?
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:KingColliwog how are your going to change you routine? I can give you some help if you want. For now I'm not changing anything I think. I'm staying on Westside for skinny bastard until about Xmas since I have some specific objectives that I wanted to achieve by then. I also don't have much of a basic strength base and I believe my current program will help build that before I train more specifically for judo. The only thing I might change right now is adding some hang clean and power cleans to my routine, but I had already planned on doing that anyway. After Xmas though, I'm gonna try and incorporate some of the stuff. I don't know if you've read the "resistance training for Judo : Functional Strength training concepts and principles"? It goes quite a bit deeper than the "grappling sports" one. They talk a lot about doing unilateral movements for the leg (split squats for example) which I don't do a lot of currently (I do reverse lunge but that's pretty much it). They also suggest that since the body is linked anteriorly and posteriorly in a diagonal pattern, we should be doing all the standing upper-body pulls on one leg with the weight on the opposite hand. I already shared his view on back squat vs front squat and core strength so no change to be had here (well front squat will wait until xmas because of wrist flexibility and current goal, but I'm going to get to front squat in 2012!) I'm probably going to try the warm-up they suggest too because right now I'm doing 6-7 minutes or rowing because of 
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Ligur posted:*There's actually one or two guys who go to the same gym who sort of flip off a bit when sparring. Always go a little too hard and can't seem to help themselves even when drilling with lighter women - but they are genuinely sorry if they hurt someone so you can't be angry for long. I guess they are just built to spazz and become so nervous/excited they can't help it. It's almost as if they regularly forget the extent other people are capable of feeling pain but not in a malicious way. This is hard to explain? Pretty sure I'm like this, it's one of the reasons I don't like non-weapon based stuff. That armor counts for a lot. Maybe I should work on that though, it can't be healthy. Antinumeric fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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No I know guys just like that. I think some people just get into the moment and lose objectivity faster than others. Also, it's usually the stronger guys and I think they honestly don't realize how it feels when they're going with smaller people. I mean if you're like 30 and really big and strong, the last time someone could just man handle you, not technique but simply "too big" was probably over ten years ago.
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Sometimes when someone in my class can't sink a choke in they just squeeze the poo poo out of my teeth. Is that assholish behavior or should I just suck it up? It pisses me off because it hurts but it's not technical or good. I usually just tap at that point if we're just rolling. (I don't wear a mouth guard).
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Hellblazer187 posted:(I don't wear a mouth guard). Problem Identified. Wear a mouthguard or be prepared to tap. Really though, get a mouthguard damaging your teeth really sucks and is very expensive. Even a couple hundred dollar custom dentist mouthguard is cheaper than almost any kind of repair work. Even if you live in a real country with healthcare, mouth injuries are painful and can really affect your quality of life, sometimes for years. Xguard86 fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 22, 2011 |
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So I've been out of training now for about 6 months, and its been 3 months since my last of four shoulder dislocations (first time in late february, second very shortly after in april, both to BJJ, third from cannonball jumping into a pool in july, fourth from falling asleep with my hands behind my head in august) and I'm getting incredibly antsy. I talked to my shoulder specialist and he said that I need to avoid BJJ altogether pretty much until I get my surgery (which is next loving September because of the waitlist here in Canada), I also asked him about boxing/kickboxing and he said that too is worrisome because of the vulnerable position my arm gets in with lead hooks. So, I have to wait till surgery next September, and then 6 months of recovery before I am to my full recovery potential to train again. So I wont be training till March/April of 2013 at this rate. I've considered going to some kickboxing classes and only to do the drills and bagwork, avoiding sparring, or only sparring lightly. Early on after my injury I did some bag work for awhile and it felt good, I didnt feel any vulnerability or chance of injury. I've been wanting to go to BJJ classes just to watch and maybe do slow technique work, but quite honestly its hard to do this because first, its expensive to pay just to watch and maybe do some technique (which I really shouldnt do anyways cause the second time I popped it out was spinning and post out of a technique). As well I've considered rolling one handed but I doubt I'll get much out of it because Im only a two striped white belt, I figured if I was a purple or blue belt I could do that because I have enough technique behind me, but not at this stage. Finally, its just disheartening to have to sit at the sidelines and watch. I also miss the intense cardio I got from striking/kickboxing classes at my MMA school. I havent been doing enough cardio lately so I would love to get back into that.
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If your gym has free sparring and you can find partners to spar lightly, consider it. But it sounds like it could dislocate from even light movements if things are situated just right.
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The people who are good intentioned but go overboard in sparring are people who are not used to keeping their head under the influence of adrenaline/testosterone. Reason with them, explaining that their performance will improve when they learn to think calmly in high-stress situations, and remind them to focus on their breathing when you notice them getting too wound up. The people who grind on you (crushing your teeth instead of RNCing or whatever) to make you uncomfortable when they can't sink subs are being impatient, though they don't realize it. They've learned to associate certain positions (like taking back) with winning, so when they're in those positions and you keep resisting they think you're just being stubborn and rationalize that a win is a win. Teach them how many steps there are between taking that position and sinking a clean sub, and have someone around who can walk them through the process when they blank out while sparring, and remind them to be patient. Or bite them- after all, a win is a win right? (Kidding)
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Xguard86 posted:No I know guys just like that. I think some people just get into the moment and lose objectivity faster than others. I've also met less powerful but physically fit (read: smallish in stature) guy or two who somehow always lose it for the detriment of everyone. It appears to me they are stressed: they don't flow with the techniques or relax despite a not inconsiderable time of training, and for example freeze first and launch into an attack that is often out of proportion to the drill or sparring, trying too much. This can disappear quickly, but not for everyone. Then there are the big guys but TBH it is more difficult for a 230lbs bruiser to learn how to kick and punch accurately and in full control than it is to just swing your limbs at a target. Especially when the weight difference is too much, very difficult. Not entirely the same with rolling but thereabouts. Ridleys Revenge posted:Reason with them, explaining that their performance will improve when they learn to think calmly in high-stress situations, and remind them to focus on their breathing when you notice them getting too wound up. Works for some sure, I've had personal experience with well meaning guys who flail like the purpose of the drill is to catch me with a hard kick for it to be considered a success. Most of the time they follow example well though: don't go along and tell them to copy your level of contact. Voilá! In this manner a really, really uncomfortable sparring and drilling partner turned the best one ever during a single class (and not for me only, nobody just ever told him to tone down the power and increase technique before, or something.) Sometimes, unfortunately, it just needs a hard counter to deliver the message, probably something like Antinumeric was talking about earlier with less than a wholly positive tone.
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I racked the poo poo out of myself doing Kami Basami tonight. Icing ones balls is okay, right?
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I rolled last week with a teen at my gym who when he had me in guard used his puberty retard strength to just squeeze the hell out of me. Eventually he got tired and I took the back and gently sunk the RNC, but I was still sore all through the back and neck for my trouble.
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Ridleys Revenge posted:The people who are good intentioned but go overboard in sparring are people who are not used to keeping their head under the influence of adrenaline/testosterone. Reason with them, explaining that their performance will improve when they learn to think calmly in high-stress situations, and remind them to focus on their breathing when you notice them getting too wound up. Eh, I know a lot of wrestlers that tend to go overboard. There are just a lot of places that overemphasize aggression. I've only ever been bitten by really new guys, but I've had people stand up and try for a takedown in a ground exercise or try forearm smashes to gain position. I generally just match intensity unless they're getting really out of hand.
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