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Eisenwald has 34 hours left and it doesn't seem like they're going to hit more than one stretch goal. I wish it were a Grim Dawn situation where they'd hit all of them - they all sound really good. I wonder why this Kickstarter isn't as popular as some other ones.
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Star Guarded posted:Eisenwald has 34 hours left and it doesn't seem like they're going to hit more than one stretch goal. I wish it were a Grim Dawn situation where they'd hit all of them - they all sound really good. I wonder why this Kickstarter isn't as popular as some other ones. Yeah, I was just looking at their kicktraq, and even if their last 24 hours brings in as much as their two highest cash days put together they'll wind up well below 100K. On the other hand, they seem well placed to nail 75K. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but they seem like the sorts of guys who might make those extra features down the road anyway, and put them out as DLC or in an expansion pack or something.
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May 20, 2012 17:54
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Eisenwald is a very different position than Grim Dawn. We are in the middle of Diablo 3 fever, pro or anti, lots of people's feelings about D3 influece their participation in the Grim Dawn KS. Add in that lots of people liked Titan Quest and it's not hard to see how Grim Dawn did so well. Eisenwald comes from some unknown guys. There's no game like it at the moment so people can't say "hey, I'll play this after X" or "I'll play this instead of X". It's doing well, but it's just in a different spot when it comes to get funding.
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May 20, 2012 18:03
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Star Guarded posted:Eisenwald has 34 hours left and it doesn't seem like they're going to hit more than one stretch goal. I wish it were a Grim Dawn situation where they'd hit all of them - they all sound really good. I wonder why this Kickstarter isn't as popular as some other ones. Couple of reasons, I imagine. They're not generally well-known developers who'd previously worked on a reasonably popular game prior to this. They don't speak English as their first language, but their pitch video is in un-subtitled English and it can be a little tricky to understand what they're saying at times. You can get that information from reading the Kickstarter, but a lot of people initially just watch the video at the top. Also, visually there's nothing particularly unique about the graphics or art style that distinguishes it from other games. So it was something of a tougher sell for many. Luckily, it met its goal. If I'm reading the stretch goals right, I think they have a good shot of getting two of them. Man. The more I look at Kicktraq, the more I feel sort of dismayed. There's no more perfect encapsulation of Internet news cycle interest, as the charts demonstrate direct causation of funding spikes by blog/gaming news site coverage. Success or failure of a Kickstarter's funding hinges primarily, if not ENTIRELY, on whether or not mainstream games media sites like Kotaku/RPS/etc will link to you favorably. Starlight Inception's is the best example. There were more backers in that one day it got the post about it than in the over 2 weeks of "spread the word, guys!" All the grassroots stuff like Twitter, Facebook, and what have you is completely subservient to the yay or nay from the mainstream gaming media...and they know it. Part of the initial appeal of the Kickstarter system in my mind was that it represented a break away from the "you need the news and review sites to say good things about you or else you're sunk" model that Metacritic embodies. But it seems we're still kind of there in a way. 
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May 20, 2012 18:06
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I decided to cancel on Carmageddon. It goes against my buying habits to order Steam games over $10. I would drop $25 if it was DRM-free like all the other Kickstarter games I patronized. I consider paying more to be worth having to quickly play a game, no matter what.
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May 20, 2012 19:49
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snipermonkey posted:Wasn't Conquest pretty obscure, so not much name recognition and Battle Chess is still a chess game. No amount of funny animation is going to make people play chess or buy a chess videogame. I think the first Battle Chess was popular because at the time it was novel. Or, you know, I could be wrong. I never bought another chess game after Sargon II. No, I am not that old, since apparently that came out in 1979. It was really hard to find Atari 800XL games by the late 1980s Saoshyant posted:Eisenwald comes from some unknown guys. There's no game like it at the moment so people can't say "hey, I'll play this after X" or "I'll play this instead of X". It's doing well, but it's just in a different spot when it comes to get funding. Seriously though any game that is even 50% like King's Bounty will instantly get my money. Except Heroes of Might & Magic, apparently. They can go to hell. Daryl Surat posted:Success or failure of a Kickstarter's funding hinges primarily, if not ENTIRELY, on whether or not mainstream games media sites like Kotaku/RPS/etc will link to you favorably. I like to believe that the Wasteland 2 Kickstarter would have done decently well even without gaming news coverage, given how much money seemed to be raised just from threads on these and a few other big forums. But that is also a class of cult favorite game that has few peers.
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Daryl Surat posted:Success or failure of a Kickstarter's funding hinges primarily, if not ENTIRELY, on whether or not mainstream games media sites like Kotaku/RPS/etc will link to you favorably. I disagree. Case in point. Tempus Chronicle (the episodic JRPG Facebook idea) was promoted favorably by Kotaku, and it failed spectacularly. Mainstream media CAN help a Kickstarter, but it is not a guarantee.
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May 20, 2012 19:57
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macnbc posted:I disagree. Case in point. Tempus Chronicle (the episodic JRPG Facebook idea) was promoted favorably by Kotaku, and it failed spectacularly. That's because Tempus Chronicle was a loving awful idea.
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May 20, 2012 20:01
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Quarex posted:Not that I disagree for current projects, but was this the case for Double Fine Adventures? Or is it the reason that gaming sites started covering Kickstarters?
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May 20, 2012 20:11
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Quarex posted:Not that I disagree for current projects, but was this the case for Double Fine Adventures? Of course! The entire media went apeshit when Mr Schafer went into public to fund his next game. He was the first and everyone and their mother talked about it. If the media hadn't covered it it would have still succeeded but not to the degree it did. For good or worst it's the media that informs the public of new kickstarter projects since it obviously has a bigger reach than word to mouth. Wasteland 2 was also in the same boat as DFA. Every time RPS mentioned it there was a bigger spike in funding. When Slashdot featured it there was a big spike in funding. And this is the big guns. The small projects that get no coverage die.
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May 20, 2012 20:12
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Grim Dawn Grim Dawn Grim Dawn Why does nobody ever link this project? I always forget to look this project up when I get home...
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May 20, 2012 21:13
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fondue posted:Grim Dawn Because it's already funded, in the OP, and there's even a thread about it. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3479504
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May 20, 2012 21:14
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Diamond Trust of London, a 2-player diamond-trading strategy game for Nintendo DS has 5 days to make ~$5000. Kind of doubt that they'll make it, given the niche appeal of such a game.
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Darthemed posted:Diamond Trust of London, a 2-player diamond-trading strategy game for Nintendo DS has 5 days to make ~$5000. Kind of doubt that they'll make it, given the niche appeal of such a game. Whoa, they're that close? I really wish the game were just released for PC or something; it looks interesting to play but I don't know how many times I'd get someone to play DS local multiplayer these days.
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May 21, 2012 00:18
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This is the worst thing I have ever seen
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SupSuper posted:This is the worst thing I have ever seen 
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Darthemed posted:Diamond Trust of London, a 2-player diamond-trading strategy game for Nintendo DS has 5 days to make ~$5000. Kind of doubt that they'll make it, given the niche appeal of such a game. They will absolutely make it. No kickstarter gets that close and fails, its part of the weird psychology of the supporters spending habits.
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BiggerJ posted:Isn't the Watch getting a TV series? If Game of Thrones got a game... Game of Thrones did get a game and it was AWFUL. There's an RPG that supposedly came out on the 15th, I haven't seen or heard anything about it though. It's the same crew that did Blood Bowl and the horrible game I just liked so it could go either way.
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Urdnot Fire posted:The most beautiful part is that even after you buy a copy it's not F2P
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The Tex Murphy kickstarter doesn't look too good, according to Kliktraq's graphs. I'm not sure whether an end-spike can save the day.Rhandhali posted:Game of Thrones did get a game and it was AWFUL. There's an RPG that supposedly came out on the 15th, I haven't seen or heard anything about it though. It's the same crew that did Blood Bowl and the horrible game I just liked so it could go either way. The one you know nothing about is the one I'm talking about. I know nothing about it either! TYPICAL INTERNET DISCUSSION. BiggerJ fucked around with this message at 01:54 on May 21, 2012 |
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May 21, 2012 01:50
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BiggerJ posted:
Steam has a couple of trailers, and Atlus of Ogre Battle/Disgaea fame is involved somehow. They also managed to get the actors from the HBO show to voice Jorah Mormont and Varys, and the graphics looks kind of so so. That's all I've got.
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Crosscontaminant posted:Unless you pledge $500 or more, which means you need to anticipate playing it for more than eight years for that to be a good deal.
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BiggerJ posted:The Tex Murphy kickstarter doesn't look too good, according to Kliktraq's graphs. I'm not sure whether an end-spike can save the day. Pretty sure it can. End-spikes for games that get big journo coverage are a lot crazier than the averages tracked by that site.
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May 21, 2012 02:30
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Just amazing, really it should go out to the hall of mockery, but at least they have some everquest like graphics, instead of Your World's hockerbot ideas.
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May 21, 2012 04:16
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I can't believe how loving long and terrible that backstory is. e: i didn't even watch that video until now. hooooooooly poo poo
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benzine posted:Just amazing, really it should go out to the hall of mockery, but at least they have some everquest like graphics, instead of Your World's hockerbot ideas. At least Your Hookerbot World doesn't presume to force you to pay for it.
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You know... I've never minded scantily clad female characters in games, and I'll admit to playing a few just because of that, but there is no avoiding the "creepy" tag when you're developing a game and at some point you decided that was a "must have" while you're still developing the game.
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I still can't believe that unemployment rpg got 10,000 dollars.
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Quodio Stotes posted:I still can't believe that unemployment rpg got 10,000 dollars. Probably his own money to encourage backers.
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May 21, 2012 05:26
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At first, I was sure Time "Viking" Vincent was Bunky in a wig. Then Dennis "Father of Dark Elves" Healy and Gizmo "Team Jedi" Geek popped up. The high amount makes me believe this isn't a scam, so is it just three guys who decided "hey, let's make an MMO, we've played a bunch so it shouldn't be that hard" or something?
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benzine posted:Probably his own money to encourage backers. It's been mentioned before that this is forbidden and, unless the person who does it is clever enough, detectable.
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May 21, 2012 05:57
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Let's read what the game is about. Oh yeah, it's a wall of text, gently caress that noise. I'll just watch the video. Oh, it's terrible. Seriously, how in god's name do some of these people come up with their goals and think "Yeah, people will totally want this", especially when what they're asking for is MORE than actually well-known projects such as Carmaggedeon.
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BiggerJ, technically it is not forbidden by Kickstarter and is Very easy to hide. You just have to use a different credit card to pay yourself than you do to accept the money. It's mostly Amazon Payments that doesn't allow it as it would be a Cash Advance.
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Eisenwald passed $75K today  They put up some confusingly worded mini-stretch goals, in case they don't make it to 100k (which honestly I don't think they will) They also added this reward chart here.
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BiggerJ posted:It's been mentioned before that this is forbidden and, unless the person who does it is clever enough, detectable. If a mother can back his son, would it be impossible for a friend to "back" you?
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Master_Odin posted:Seriously, how in god's name do some of these people come up with their goals and think "Yeah, people will totally want this", especially when what they're asking for is MORE than actually well-known projects such as Carmaggedeon.
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There's another possibly infamous Kickstarter practice I've heard about. It's definitely a real practice, but I don't know how infamous it is. Is there a stigma against Kickstarters for projects that will still go ahead if the Kickstarter fails? Appearantly, some people were somewhat unhappy with the Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Kickstarter's announcement that the rereleases would still come out even though the fundingraising failed.
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BiggerJ posted:The Tex Murphy kickstarter doesn't look too good, according to Kliktraq's graphs. I'm not sure whether an end-spike can save the day. You're right, the graphs doesn't look pretty. But that doesn't detract from the fact that in a week, the Kickstarter has been pledge half the required amount. And by now articles about it has started popping up, so who knows?
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BiggerJ posted:There's another possibly infamous Kickstarter practice I've heard about. It's definitely a real practice, but I don't know how infamous it is. Is there a stigma against Kickstarters for projects that will still go ahead if the Kickstarter fails? Appearantly, some people were somewhat unhappy with the Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Kickstarter's announcement that the rereleases would still come out even though the fundingraising failed. I’m not sure how this would upset anyone who actually wanted the game. All that really means though is that he couldn't turn his idea into fully-funded game development. Instead he will work on it slowly over time and it could take 5 years or even a lifetime. I could only see this as an issue if say someone was asking for 100k, but already had his own money he could use, but preferred not to. The argument would be, "Why should I give you money to make this game if you're just going to use your own funds?" I suppose one could argue you were pre-ordering it, but I doubt anyone would really want to do that on some unknown project. I'm pretty sure this has never happened and in the case of the Sherlock Holmes guy, I got the impression it was more of a... "I don't have the money to do this outright, but I will work on it in my spare time with whatever money I can spare." This is completely different and should delight anyone who supported him and wants the game to get made. Edit: I'm pretty sure a lot of the other projects have said this too. The Grim Dawn guy hinted that they would still work on it when they could (I think), but the scope would be toned way down and it would be funded by whatever funds could be scraped together. Again, I don't see this as a negative, but just a reason to help get them the funds they need to make a good idea a great game. tl;dr We're coming to the community for the funds to make our pet project/hobby/life-long goal a reality sooner and better than we could do on our own. Dragonrah fucked around with this message at 08:53 on May 21, 2012 |
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Quarex posted:Was it in this thread or the Awful Kickstarters thread where I posted the designer's comment from the off-site video where he literally says (in different words) "this game is the only thing I have left in life?" It's also in his bio on his Kickstarter page: quote:I am not going to quit. This to be honest is all I Edit: Well, I just made the mistake of watching the video ... PSI-5 fucked around with this message at 13:28 on May 21, 2012 |
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