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RagingBoner
Jan 10, 2006

Real Wood Pencil

Teim posted:

Hey Ragingboner, got any plans for unclaimed shirts?

I only have 1 unclaimed Large right now, but after everyone let's me know if they're in or out, I'll sell em pretty as you please. A couple people already have dibs on any potential unsold shirts:

One XXL will go to Quarex, because he plans on going on a buttered cheese binge after he gets his degree and will need a larger shirt.

One will go to mind the walrus (potentially that Large), because he forgot to sign up.

Should I put you on the "dibs" list? Did you order a shirt? What is your mother's maiden name?

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cullan
Jun 17, 2002

Pillbug
I got the Amazon payment attachment to work once I saved the file to my hard drive and opened it manually.

The shirts look great, and I see my name on there. :woop:

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

CommissarMega posted:

U.M.

Um Mo for a little more accuracy.
Ummissar Moga.

RagingBoner posted:

One XXL will go to Quarex, because he plans on going on a buttered cheese binge after he gets his degree and will need a larger shirt.
Hey now, I would rather have an XL, since that would actually fit me pre-buttered-cheese binge. But likely you know that and just wrote this to ... to make fun ... of my buttered cheese binge :smith:

(Say, are we talking about cheese?! Because I LOVE CHEESE! Ever tried putting peanut butter on cheddar cheese? Might think it sounds gross, but my friend, have I got NEWS for YOU!)

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

cullan posted:

I got the Amazon payment attachment to work once I saved the file to my hard drive and opened it manually.

This.

Amazon payment sent, pretty sure I'm the only Icelander to order.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Quarex posted:

Ummissar Moga.

That is actually very similar to my real name :stare:

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

CommissarMega posted:

That is actually very similar to my real name :stare:

Careful there, man. I can just check the names in all of the local anime magazines to find you.

Fredrik1
Jan 22, 2005

Gopherslayer
:rock:
Fallen Rib

The MSJ posted:

Careful there, man. I can just check the names in all of the local anime magazines to find you.

Right now there is a real Ummisar Moga that's behind his desk thinking o'poo poo.

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

And then it falls
And then I fall
And then I know


Don't turn around (oh uh oh)
Der Ummissar's in town (oh uh ooooh)

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
o/` :allears: o/`

YourAverageJoe posted:

Amazon payment sent, pretty sure I'm the only Icelander to order.
It will be awesome when I go back to Iceland for one of my wedding anniversaries (my wife and I married in Reykjavík, because how else can you have a summer wedding in pleasant weather?) and we bump into each other both wearing our Wasteland 2 shirts.

If you do not live in Reykjavík, I ... I just do not know what to do.

CommissarMega posted:

That is actually very similar to my real name :stare:
I live to please/terrify.

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Quarex posted:

I ... I just do not know what to do.

Sorry. :(

I might still pop over to the town over a weekend or three, so who knows.

Woebin
Feb 6, 2006

Quarex posted:

It will be awesome when I go back to Iceland for one of my wedding anniversaries (my wife and I married in Reykjavík, because how else can you have a summer wedding in pleasant weather?) and we bump into each other both wearing our Wasteland 2 shirts.

If you do not live in Reykjavík, I ... I just do not know what to do.
I think it's obvious what to do. You need to invite everyone in this thread to join you in Reykjavik and join your anniversary celebration. Wasteland 2 shirt mandatory, of course.

I'm sure your wife would love it.

TerryLennox
Oct 12, 2009

There is nothing tougher than a tough Mexican, just as there is nothing gentler than a gentle Mexican, nothing more honest than an honest Mexican, and above all nothing sadder than a sad Mexican. -R. Chandler.
I never got the Amazon link. All I keep getting is a bunch of shady porn that from the looks of it will probably infect my descendant's descendants computers if even open those links.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

The MSJ posted:

Careful there, man. I can just check the names in all of the local anime magazines to find you.

Go ahead, I'm hidden behind seven pen names :smug:

Woebin posted:

I think it's obvious what to do. You need to invite everyone in this thread to join you in Reykjavik and join your anniversary celebration. Wasteland 2 shirt mandatory, of course.

I'm sure your wife would love it.

Oh great, another $30 in postage :v:

PSI-5
Aug 21, 2007

The servolator is fried.

RagingBoner posted:

A few people gave me no address when they paid through PayPal ...
RB, paypal should have automatically provided my mailing address. Let me know if there are any issues.

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009

RagingBoner posted:

A few people gave me no address when they paid through PayPal, so I guess they think I'm a psychic or something.
Didn't get a follow up from you asking where I was but sent you a email with my delivery address anyway on the chance that you didn't divine it with your internet superpowers.

RagingBoner
Jan 10, 2006

Real Wood Pencil

VodeAndreas posted:

Didn't get a follow up from you asking where I was but sent you a email with my delivery address anyway on the chance that you didn't divine it with your internet superpowers.

I haven't gotten any PayPal payments from you, your initials are CM, correct? All I have gotten is your last email that has your PayPal receipt in it.

When did you send the payment?


Edit: Disregard, I am stupid. I got your email with your new address.

Just letting everyone know I'm going to do my damnedest to get everyone's shirts shipped out on Tuesday, but that is going to be highly reliant on whether the post office has enough free envelopes on hand when I go there on Monday. So far I have 60/86 orders paid for and ready to ship.

RagingBoner fucked around with this message at 11:48 on May 20, 2012

Overemotional Robot
Mar 16, 2008

Robotor just hasn't been the same since 9/11...
I'm assuming you got my information Boner, but if not let me know.

RagingBoner
Jan 10, 2006

Real Wood Pencil

Overemotional Robot posted:

I'm assuming you got my information Boner, but if not let me know.
Yep.

I'm going to re-email everyone who I haven't been contacted by on Friday. If they don't respond by the following Tuesday, I'm going to consider their shirt vacated and will be selling to the secondary market that has developed.

Does that sound fair to everyone?

Fredrik1
Jan 22, 2005

Gopherslayer
:rock:
Fallen Rib

RagingBoner posted:

Yep.

I'm going to re-email everyone who I haven't been contacted by on Friday. If they don't respond by the following Tuesday, I'm going to consider their shirt vacated and will be selling to the secondary market that has developed.

Does that sound fair to everyone?

That sounds fair, provided you've received all my emails and monies as should.

VodeAndreas
Apr 30, 2009

RagingBoner posted:

I haven't gotten any PayPal payments from you, your initials are CM, correct? All I have gotten is your last email that has your PayPal receipt in it.

When did you send the payment?


Edit: Disregard, I am stupid. I got your email with your new address.

Sorry my Paypal payment would have come from a different email address and details yeah... I don't really keep my paypal too up to date and it's a bit of a cross between internet me and real me. :downs:

But yeah, CM.

SavageMessiah
Jan 28, 2009

Emotionally drained and spookified

Toilet Rascal

Quarex posted:

post-apopportunities

I'd like you to know, I enjoyed this word. A fine word.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

SavageMessiah posted:

I'd like you to know, I enjoyed this word. A fine word.
ThaaAAAAAAAAH WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS NEW POSTING INTERFACE AHHHHHHHHHH

Thanks! I think "making up new words" is the only thing I enjoyed both at age 5 and age however old I am now. 6? I am this many.


In other news, this article was so good, and it made me so upset (as evidenced by my post at the bottom, where I realized just how true it is that people who loved Final Fantasy VII, not Ultima VII, are the ones designing all the mainstream CRPGs these days):

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/08/the-game-that-wasn%E2%80%99t-there/

Woebin posted:

I think it's obvious what to do. You need to invite everyone in this thread to join you in Reykjavik and join your anniversary celebration. Wasteland 2 shirt mandatory, of course.

I'm sure your wife would love it.
Well, she at least thinks it is cute that I helped get people excited about a game online and am somehow getting sent a shirt as a result of it.

As for Iceland, I cannot possibly recommend going there enough. Though Mr. Iceland up there might have a different opinion. Mr./Ms. Iceland.

Fewd
Mar 22, 2007

#vmp #opsec #kolmiloikka #happoo

RagingBoner posted:

12 hours into taking payments, 46 out of 86 people have stepped up. That's impressive.

I've already recouped my up front costs, and so shipping will be no issue at all (once I get everything lined up). A few people gave me no address when they paid through PayPal, so I guess they think I'm a psychic or something. I'll contact them via telepathy email so they can inform me of where they live.

(I'm sitting here typing this while wearing my Wasteland 2 shirt)

I just paid and realized I didn't put my address in, but you might still have it from the earlier emails where we were looking at international shipping.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Quarex posted:

In other news, this article was so good, and it made me so upset (as evidenced by my post at the bottom, where I realized just how true it is that people who loved Final Fantasy VII, not Ultima VII, are the ones designing all the mainstream CRPGs these days):

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/08/the-game-that-wasn%E2%80%99t-there/

This is what I'm hoping Kickstarter will help change; show developers that there is a market beyond what their 'market research' (read: pandering to the fandom) says.

Backno
Dec 1, 2007

Goff Boyz iz da rudest Boyz

SKA SUCKS
I will be sending you moneies with in the next couple of days depending on when a check clears.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Quarex posted:

In other news, this article was so good, and it made me so upset (as evidenced by my post at the bottom, where I realized just how true it is that people who loved Final Fantasy VII, not Ultima VII, are the ones designing all the mainstream CRPGs these days):

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/08/the-game-that-wasn%E2%80%99t-there/

I've said so before, but Final Fantasy VII was also a major pain to me as a person during my years trying to learn game design, because almost 90% of the student body quoted FF7 specifically as a reason to get into game development.

Now, I'll admit that I didn't play Ultima VII, but I would at least have quoted Fallout or Neverwinter Nights as the moment where I thought "this is what I want to do" mostly because I didn't have a PC until these games came around.

A sad realization came over me as I realized these people aspired to make that kind of game. :smith:

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Quarex posted:

In other news, this article was so good, and it made me so upset (as evidenced by my post at the bottom, where I realized just how true it is that people who loved Final Fantasy VII, not Ultima VII, are the ones designing all the mainstream CRPGs these days):

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/08/the-game-that-wasn%E2%80%99t-there/

It also made me upset, but for completely different reasons: it gives me the impression that the guy writing it did not do the research.

Bioware and Bethesda aren't making party-oriented, plot-driven, turn-based WRPGs anymore. No poo poo, really? Bethesda never did, and Bioware did only if you generously consider Baldur's Gate 2 turn-based - and that was 12 years ago. I don't see Id Software releasing dungeon crawlers or Valve releasing space 4Xes, but I'm too busy playing Legend of Grimrock and Endless Space to declare them dead genres on the basis of that.

Instead of whining that two big names in the industry (who have never made such games) aren't making the style of game he prefers, perhaps he should be buying games from the developers that actually are, like Spiderweb. Or contributing to the Wasteland 2 kickstarter.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


I don't see where he says that Bethesda and Bioware used to make games like that but don't any more. It sounds more like he's saying that the genre used to be that way but those two companies have specifically moved away from it. That's why he's comparing Fallout 3 and Dragon Age to Wasteland and Wizardry rather than previous Bethesda or Bioware titles.

Edit: I mean, here's the second sentence:

quote:

Specifically, a Western RPG as they used to be, before Bioware and Bethesda took up the reins of Western RPGdom.

Crosscontaminant
Jan 18, 2007

Armor-Piercing posted:

It sounds more like he's saying that the genre used to be that way but those two companies have specifically moved away from it.
You can't move away from something you were never close to. Is moving from Adelaide to Canberra moving towards or away from Durham? It doesn't matter.

doomfunk
Feb 29, 2008

oh come on was that really necessary
all over my fine carpet!!

ToxicFrog posted:

Instead of whining that two big names in the industry (who have never made such games) aren't making the style of game he prefers, perhaps he should be buying games from the developers that actually are, like Spiderweb. Or contributing to the Wasteland 2 kickstarter.

He probably is and probably did. Article's from 2010.

Armor-Piercing
Sep 22, 2009

Nightly dance
of bleeding swords


Crosscontaminant posted:

You can't move away from something you were never close to. Is moving from Adelaide to Canberra moving towards or away from Durham? It doesn't matter.
Ok? I was clarifying the author's argument, not making one myself, so I'm not sure what you're responding to.

Crosscontaminant
Jan 18, 2007

Your clarification ended up saying exactly what you were trying to argue it wasn't saying.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Missed the email, will send money when I get my next money in.

Commissar Kip
Nov 9, 2009

Imperial Commissariat's uplifting primer.

Shake once.
I'll send the money tomorrow. Just found the email under loads of spam.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
No no, everyone, it is fine; I realized that the original author was not quite thinking things through (kind of like ToxicFrog's point); some of the very games he thinks about, like Ultima VI, contain almost the same fundamental party-management (other than in size, which I am certainly on his side for) as the Japanese games. Ultima VI, for example, has a "pool of party members" that you can only have "so many of in your group at a time." I distinctly remember being mad that I could never decide whether to hold off from filling up my party until I reached Seggallion (Knights of Legend fanboy~!) or whether it was better to just have the full host earlier on to make things easier. And every character had their own backstory and interesting things to say, just like in the BioWare or Bethesda games of today, but with less voice acting and fewer lens flares.

As Mordaedil pointed out, though, it probably is still the case that designers are more likely to be influenced by Final Fantasy VII, since I would assume that game had at least 10 times the fanbase (and probably more) of the average "Western" CRPG of the time. I mean, it was still a big deal for an RPG to sell 200,000 copies on MS-DOS/Windows, after all.

RagingBoner
Jan 10, 2006

Real Wood Pencil
Just mailed out order 1 of 86 to MC of Orlando, to test shipping rates and all that jazz.

So far so good!

Here is my order of operations:

1. Match payments to those who pre-ordered
2. Match addresses from the payments to each order (this is going to take the longest amount of time, BY FAR)
3. Package up each order
4. Mail the US orders
5. Take a gigantic drink of booze
6. Mail the International orders

US Goons who have paid should get mailed out by next Wednesday.

I am nervous about mailing out of country, as foreign address formats sometimes make absolutely no sense to me. Hopefully I can figure it out, though!

(I just want you international guys to know that this is a learning process for me, but I hope to get everything ironed out soon, and the last international order should go out NO LATER than June 18th. Please be patient with me in the mean time.)

Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.
Hey, I'll send the payment tomorrow too - it got caught in gmail's ever-vigilant spam filter. Thanks!

Great Joe
Aug 13, 2008

Quarex posted:

As for Iceland, I cannot possibly recommend going there enough. Though Mr. Iceland up there might have a different opinion. Mr./Ms. Iceland.

All I have to say is, if you wanna go, go for the nature and extreme sports opportunities. Reykjavík is an interesting town for sure (it's also drat ugly), but it's not a town you can get acquainted with just by visiting over the weekend. Iceland's in such a weird part of the world it actually has 3 distinct climates and is volcanically active, so I'd definitely recommend taking a week to drive the main road around the island, just to see the stark contrasts in the mountains and plant life.

RagingBoner posted:

(I just want you international guys to know that this is a learning process for me, but I hope to get everything ironed out soon, and the last international order should go out NO LATER than June 18th. Please be patient with me in the mean time.)

So long as all the info is there, usually the post offices can take care of the rest. If you're not sure if a particular bit of info is supposed to be there or not, just put it on anyway and hope for the best. :v:

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe

YourAverageJoe posted:

So long as all the info is there, usually the post offices can take care of the rest. If you're not sure if a particular bit of info is supposed to be there or not, just put it on anyway and hope for the best. :v:

Seriously. I've had to ship a handful of things over seas and to military addresses. They both appear to be formatted according to the ancient tongue of the eldar gods, but as long you put all the information you have on there the post office can usually figure it out. I was sure I completely cocked it up a couple times, but it still got there.

Post office folk are fine folk.

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randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!

Jonny Retro posted:

Seriously. I've had to ship a handful of things over seas and to military addresses. They both appear to be formatted according to the ancient tongue of the eldar gods, but as long you put all the information you have on there the post office can usually figure it out. I was sure I completely cocked it up a couple times, but it still got there.

Post office folk are fine folk.

As long as you have the country written right the US postal service knows where to send it so that someone who understands the address format can get it where it needs to go.

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