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Besides apparently marrying a blacksmith eventually, should I be caring about affinity? I've never given anyone a gift - GnomeChomsky is all the friend I need  Related, should I be caring about the escort quests? Do they unlock later quests?
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grrarg posted:It is the last person, period. I gave Madeleine the bond then did Duchess in Distress and ended up with Aelinore at the end. Strange. Perhaps the bond "resets" the affinity for the person to max? Like, so you can max out Madeleine and then max out the duchess and then give the bond to Madeleine and end up with her? Also, I wanted the duchess and got Madeleine. 
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Shalinor posted:Besides apparently marrying a blacksmith eventually, should I be caring about affinity? I've never given anyone a gift - GnomeChomsky is all the friend I need I think the escort quests give you a significant affinity boost with the character you escort. They're also the most nail-biting quests in the game. Mobs love to make a beeline straight for your escortee, which can make things really interesting really fast. So what's up with the Bradygames guide for this? Is it printed on solid gold leaf or something? I've been to three different brick and mortars here in town and everyone's sold out, and Amazon keeps pushing back my ship date.
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May 30, 2012 21:46
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losonti tokash posted:I also gave you a full set of dragon forged equipment I got from the Ur-Dragon but apparently it just disappears. Awww, that's unfortunate. I'm really looking forward to finally getting some decent gear for my pawn that's better than the Mercedes outfit because it's starting to get old.
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May 30, 2012 21:50
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Those quests had better give you high affinity as hard as they can be. I'm so high level now that they're basically a cakewalk, but I remember the cleric wandering in front of a golem's machine gun and Selene deciding to stand between me and a cyclops's club. Somehow I kept the cleric alive, but all I could do was watch Selene's lifebar disappear and then reset. Off topic, but I found a mummer's outfit that can be worn by all vocations and actually give pretty good armor after escorting Barnaby to the beach. It looks really good on my warrior, and in combination with the dire wolf shoulders, the circlet and my three headed hammer makes me look like some sort of muscle mage, especially when I'm charging Arc of Deliverance and then sunder the earth and all between.  Good stats, too!
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VanillaGorilla posted:I think the escort quests give you a significant affinity boost with the character you escort.  VanillaGorilla posted:So what's up with the Bradygames guide for this? Is it printed on solid gold leaf or something? I've been to three different brick and mortars here in town and everyone's sold out, and Amazon keeps pushing back my ship date.
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May 30, 2012 21:54
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I wandered around handing skulls to townspeople for a while before I knew what affinity was. I wonder what that will do.
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May 30, 2012 22:12
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The pride you feel when your pawn comes back with a good rating/review is matched only by the anger and confusion when it comes back with 0 RC and 1/2 stars in everything. gently caress you too, random person on the internet 
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May 30, 2012 22:18
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[quote="Lotish" post="404124243"] Everyone talks about the trial, so I have to ask why do you want to find Fournival innocent so bad that you'd forge multiple affidavits? /quote] You get two things, a discount and the ability to buy a cape that makes ALL health and stamina restoration items effect your entire party for 100k. Actually not sure,if,he sold the cape before or not.
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May 30, 2012 22:19
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Policenaut posted:Something I adore about being super high leveled is that all the pawns wear pretty much the same outfit now. So me and my group are all kitted out in masks with Abyssal gear. It's like The Ur-Team or something.  Kinda sucks in a way since everyone and their dog has it on. I have a spare set if anyone wants it.
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The first quest I do since giving in the idol and I now have 2 of the 3 weapons I wanted from the silver idol since I found the holy mage staff during an escort quest. When do I go to the places like Bluemoon tower and the great wall? Also, aside from postgame stuff, is there another time after meeting the duke for the first time my quests get removed? I've been doing sidequests since me and my pawn are both rank 8 sorcerer and I want to be back to our main classes before I start much further onto the main quests. Jose fucked around with this message at 22:24 on May 30, 2012 |
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So I started post-game and went to everfall, first chamber I went into I fought a magic eye thing but the second one? A loving arch-hydra. I won't lie, I had to retry a few times because poo poo kept going wrong but I eventually killed it! So I guess a question about post-game, I heard the game ends entirely when you hand in 20 wakestones, but what are there any quests or things to do outside everfall? Obviously it seems like clearing the rooms is the way to go but considering how everything's gone to poo poo I imagine gransys itself might have something interesting to do? quote:When do I go to the places like Bluemoon tower and the great wall? Also, aside from postgame stuff, is there another time after meeting the duke for the first time my quests get removed? I've been doing sidequests since me and my pawn are both rank 8 sorcerer and I want to be back to our main classes before I start much further onto the main quests.
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May 30, 2012 22:26
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I just beat the game. Level 80 something and I think I have about 60 hours on record. The best part is that after the credits you go back to the main menu and Dangan plays again. This loving game.
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May 30, 2012 22:30
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Clocks posted:So I guess a question about post-game, I heard the game ends entirely when you hand in 20 wakestones, but what are there any quests or things to do outside everfall? Obviously it seems like clearing the rooms is the way to go but considering how everything's gone to poo poo I imagine gransys itself might have something interesting to do? The closest thing I can think of to compare the post-game to is Red Dead Redemption's Undead Nightmare; almost everyplace is littered with brand-spanking-new enemies, both of the large and small variety. Most of the new large enemies are "upgraded" versions of stuff you fought before, but a few are stuff you'll have never encountered, or never had a proper fight with.
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May 30, 2012 22:35
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Shalinor posted:Harspbud Sauce/Juice + Nuts => Incenses that heal the entire party, or restore stamina to the entire party. Man the balmy perfume/incense(IIRC this is with the sauce) is the best healing stuff. I can't even recall the number of times those saved me during big fights. Especially fighting the Drake over in the grove. Perfume is the weak entire party heal and incense is the big party heal. Balmy is heal, and Rousing is stamina. Also yes undoubtedly craft away at the inn and only take a few big heals, some status cures, and a couple of stamina thing (Vim if you can). I've got enough of the mats to make balmy stuff that it's almost all I carry out with me other than a few status cures and some of the vim whatever that let's you not use stamina for awhile.
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Marogareh posted:
Also just hire lower level pawns who don't wear it!
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Yeah, I'm definitely not feeling the look of that armor. I will wear suboptimal gear forever before I choose to look that terrible.
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May 30, 2012 22:54
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Lotish posted:Yeah, I'm definitely not feeling the look of that armor. I will wear suboptimal gear forever before I choose to look that terrible. I've been avoiding most better helmets because nothing has looked as good as having a plain old circlet on my Arisen. 
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The circlet has a way of making a warrior or fighter look like a Viking prince, so I think you've made the right choice.
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The stat variation in armors, at least where I am in the game, is slight enough that I haven't felt any need to stop playing dress-up with my pretty pretty princess yet.
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Am I basically ruining the game if I take pawns that are 30-40 levels higher than me, or does it not really matter? Because a few of my friends have 48-55 level pawns and I'd like to use them but not if it breaks the game at lower levels. e: Gamertag's RBA Starblade if anyone wants mine. Nothing special, just a large meathead to offset my archer.
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Yeah I've just been using some Gryphic stuff on my warrior pawn for a while. At least until I can afford green skin/face/hair dye, at which point I will turn him into the Hulk. Hopefully it'll look as awful as I'm imagining it.
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I just had my first literal LOL moment. I was leaving the Gran Soren inn and suddenly one of my pawns sprints out the door and dives in the fountain. She screamed a warning not to get wet as she loots a few bags of gold for me I never knew there was any gold in there!
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I've had a pawn jump to her death before. To be fair I slid down the slight cliff and she had died right next to a treasure chest. Awesome. A bit too hasty there, friend. This might be a dumb question, but post-game, is the only way out of the everfall is to use a ferrystone? Or is there some other way, like if you fall deep down enough? E: nvm tried jumping down and it works. Clocks fucked around with this message at 23:15 on May 30, 2012 |
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Haven't read the entire thread, so bear with me if this is a repeated topic but; anyone else amused how Japanese devs have been making better WRPG's than Western devs lately? Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls have been kicking the poo poo outta Skyrim and Dragon Age 2 in my opinion. The only Westerners still making great WRPGs seem to be CDProjekt. This is especially interesting because of how piss-poor Eastern devs were doing 3-5 years back. They couldn't make a JRPG to save their life. Now with Xenoblade and the aforementioned games, it seems they've hit their stride. I hope Bioware and Bethesda get their head out their rear end and start making great European-style RPGs like they used to. It'd be doubly-amazing if they tried their hand at a turned based anime style RPG and did it better than the Japanese.
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RBA Starblade posted:Am I basically ruining the game if I take pawns that are 30-40 levels higher than me, or does it not really matter? Because a few of my friends have 48-55 level pawns and I'd like to use them but not if it breaks the game at lower levels. My friends list seems to be full now so I can't find your guy that way; what level is he?
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Marogareh posted:
I'd love it, if it's still available. I'm on 360; GT is Huntsekker27
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rizuhbull posted:Haven't read the entire thread, so bear with me if this is a repeated topic but; anyone else amused how Japanese devs have been making better WRPG's than Western devs lately? Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls have been kicking the poo poo outta Skyrim and Dragon Age 2 in my opinion. I think part of it is that From Software and the team behind this game seem to understand that you need a strong theme, and you need to stay on message. For me, Bioware's problem of late has been trying to work in too much pop culture and, especially in the case of ME3, forgetting the kind of game they're making. Demon's and Dark Souls are unflaggingly consistent at knowing what they are, and I think Dragon's Dogma does too (even if before it came out it was difficult to describe). edit: Seriously, I think the start screen music is pitch perfect for this game, because it starts off sort of soft and classical fantasy and then turns into rock and roll, which suits a game where you are exploring a majestic landscape until you are smashing the eyeball out of a flaming cyclops while engulfed in a tornado. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 23:23 on May 30, 2012 |
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rizuhbull posted:Haven't read the entire thread, so bear with me if this is a repeated topic but; anyone else amused how Japanese devs have been making better WRPG's than Western devs lately? Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls have been kicking the poo poo outta Skyrim and Dragon Age 2 in my opinion. This game doesn't feel very Western to me at all. More like a real-time version of the first Final Fantasy or an early Dragon Quest. That European fantasy and mythology filtered through a Japanese lens. As I understand it JRPGs only really became a thing because some people in Japan really liked the (infamously bad) localizations of Wizardry that were released there. Early JRPGs were heavily inspired by the Western RPGs of the time and this game just feels like the natural conclusion of that legacy. This and the Wizardry games that Japanese people are still making.
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Soooo, I just took a trip to Devilfire Gorge. gently caress that Drake! Lvl46 and he still wiped the floor with me. Mind you, didn't help that I was a Sorcerer and almost everything he did knocked me out of the casting animation. Eventually hid behind a small rock and cast Maelstrom over it to catch the bastard whenever he charged. Eat it Drake Also, with regards to that fight, what with the dragonforged stuff? Is it a level above 3-star, and what determines what items are upgraded?
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tooooooo bad posted:This game doesn't feel very Western to me at all. More like a real-time version of the first Final Fantasy or an early Dragon Quest. Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. It feels like a real time Dragon Quest game in that it pretty much tells you "Here is a kingdom, here is a dragon to slay. Have an adventure!" You're expected to do a lot of pathfinding and backtracking with minimal access to fast travel, the pawns fill in for your friends at school who were also playing the game and it doesn't give two shits if you get in over your head. It really manages to scratch that old itch without feeling as archaic as it probably should.
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The core system of the game is so incredibly good that the game's pretty much leading up to a potential masterpiece. However, the lack of world content/incentive to explore and quests hurt the game a lot... Luckily, since the core is so good the game can go multiple directions as to improve upon it- whether it's a hardcore dungeon crawler or a better open-world RPG. If Capcom could team up with a team that had a great sense of building up a world (or go the straight dungeon-crawler route which would make the combat system even more important in sense of the small details in terms of long-term survival.) the sequel would seriously be a true masterpiece of the RPG/action genre.
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We could really use a FAQ in the second post of the thread or something. I know this has been asked before, but I just completed land of opportunity by buying the debt from the family for the first time: Where's me house?
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VDay posted:We could really use a FAQ in the second post of the thread or something. I know this has been asked before, but I just completed land of opportunity by buying the debt from the family for the first time: Where's me house? It's not anywhere. "Your house" is in Cassardis, but that's not the one you bought, and it serves no purpose except to visit the people you move in to it during the postgame. The one you just bought literally doesn't exist and you paid to end a quest, basically. You'll get some gifts from the people you bought it for but not much.
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Lotish posted:My friends list seems to be full now so I can't find your guy that way; what level is he? Chuft the level 8 Warrior. I've decided that since I appear to do jack poo poo in terms of damage so far as a strider (unless I'm stabbing a cyclops in the eye, holy poo poo), I'm cool with summoning my friend's level 48 pawn for free. I thought it'd be annoying but I actually really like the pawn system.
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Huntsekker posted:I'd love it, if it's still available. I'm on 360; GT is Huntsekker27 Should've clarified that I'm on PS3 and the stats on it are too good to pass up changing into something else until i get bored with it and just go running around naked. I started going solo on NG+ and ghosts will ruin you if they catch you.
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Fereydun posted:However, the lack of world content/incentive to explore and quests hurt the game a lot... See, I get where you're coming from here, but I don't think it's that big of an issue. My personal incentives for exploration were finding new monster types to murder and just... Training up. I can't remember the last game that left me compelled to strike off in a random direction solely to see what new abilities were around the corner. Took me forever to start the main quest proper.
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Lotish posted:Don't forget that to grab someone you have to stagger them first. This can take most of a melee combo or two for a dagger class, while a warrior can probably do it in one hit. Gestalt Intellect posted:Smaller size reduces your range and the amount of weight you can carry, and makes it easier to get knocked around. (apparently. I've never been hit and not been staggered as size S, maybe you can tank hits at higher weight?) However, it also reduces the size of your hitbox, significantly lowers your stamina consumption, and lets you run faster, so it can be worth it. I don't know how well it would work with warrior but I've been a size S strider and ranger all game and have loved it. Just make your main pawn be large and heavy so it can carry all your things. Also, there are a small number of locations you can't get to all the loot if you don't have a short character in your party.. But you could have a short pawn trained to be Acquisitor, who could walk through that little hole and loot the chest for you..!
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tooooooo bad posted:This game doesn't feel very Western to me at all. You could argue that it's easy to tell it was made by a Japanese developer and thus "feels" Eastern, but we'd be splitting hairs. It's obvious they crammed as much western medieval fantasy folklore as possible. Granted Dragon Quest is also very western oriented with asian stylizations, so I can somewhat see your point. What'd be especially amazing, and make up for a lot of the poo poo Capcom has been pulling lately, would be a Dragon's Dogma 2 with similar but expanded gameplay set in Feudal Japan. I want to fight actual Dragons, Oni's (Asian goblins), Obake (shape-shifting dogs) with big rear end odachi swords and naginata pole-arms. This is getting a bit over my head because I don't know Japanese folklore outside of using wikipedia. But just as this game is drenched in medieval Europe, I want a sequel focused on a completely different setting. Plus polearms, where the hell are my polearms? You tellin' me to fight quadruped creatures with short range swords? The gently caress is wrong with you? Also, I want to fight in water and in the air a bit. SoTC style. coyo7e posted:Also, there are a small number of locations you can't get to all the loot if you don't have a short character in your party.. But you could have a short pawn trained to be Acquisitor, who could walk through that little hole and loot the chest for you..!
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