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Rotten Red Rod posted:Ah. Hmm. That's not as good. Sit-stand is wonderful, but standing all day kinda sucks unless you're a fitness superstar. Or a tall chair?
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Ninja Rope posted:Or a tall chair?
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Can anyone recommend a chair for $100? (could spend more, see after pic) My current chair is amazing: comfy seat, mesh back for ventilation, (adjustable) headrest, back tilts independently from seat, adjustable arm rests (only important to make sure they fit under my desk), but it's 8 years old and the height adjustment is shot, so it's stuck at the lowest height which is about 3 inches too short for my current desk. I bought this thing for $60 or $70 from Staples/OD/OM on clearance back in 2004. From its feature set, it looks like it was originally about $250-300:  The reason I don't just get a $70 task chair from Staples is because I consume a lot of media on my home PC, so being able to lean back and relax for up to 8 hours is important. I'm not sure I want to spend $200 on a chair because I'll be finishing grad school in a year and I have no idea what kind of home office environment I'll have afterwards (I've been told by friends to ignore this). However, if there's a great chair for a great price, I'd be willing to pay for quality and just deal with moving another piece of furniture. Considering my old chair was $250, I've come to realize I'll have to spend that much for a replacement. I'd be okay with buying locally or from Amazon. For reference, I'm 6' tall and live in Atlanta. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jun 13, 2012 |
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Why not just buy a decent used chair from Craigslist and sell it for $50 less in a year?
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Mandalay posted:Why not just buy a decent used chair from Craigslist and sell it for $50 less in a year? Quick check of Atlanta's Craigslist reveals 1 Steelcase Leap for $275 and some Aerons for $400-450. While these chairs are supposed to be good choices for computer use, what about sitting back and watching TV shows/movies? They don't seem especially comfortable for that, particularly because of a lack of headrest.
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If all that is wrong with your current chair is the height adjustment being broken, have you looked into fixing that? Isn't it just a single part that needs replacing on most chairs?
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Aphal posted:If all that is wrong with your current chair is the height adjustment being broken, have you looked into fixing that? Isn't it just a single part that needs replacing on most chairs?
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Went with a used Steelcase Leap V2 after deciding the Aeron was overpriced and uncertainty how I would like the mesh. Now to wait to see if I got ripped off!
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Carecat posted:Went with a used Steelcase Leap V2 after deciding the Aeron was overpriced and uncertainty how I would like the mesh. Now to wait to see if I got ripped off! Leap >> Aeron. Every time I borrow one at work it makes me rage that a company would waste money on such an uncomfortable chair. What makes it so uncomfortable for me is how the mesh gives to your body weight while the frame does not, leaving it to dig into your thighs. I am far from a buttertroll @ <=65kg.
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I wrote off the leap until I finally sat in it. It's unfortunate that it looks so boring compared to, say, the Embody.
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With the new job I can probably afford to pick up a new chair soon and the leap looks like a winner. Time to start scouring craigslist, or maybe I'll try and find a new one.. Any good/cheap stores to check out in the bay area?
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Is the Leap V2 really that good? It really looks like an cheap chair that you could get in every store. I'm living in Germany and got no chance to sit in one. I just found some used Leap on Ebay for 357euro, and im thinking of just buying it. Aerons are really expensive here, a new one costs like 1400euro. 
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johnnyXcrane posted:Is the Leap V2 really that good? It really looks like an cheap chair that you could get in every store. I got one and love it. Look up a few reviews, it's definitely not the most fancy looking chair but the most comfortable one I tried.
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johnnyXcrane posted:Is the Leap V2 really that good? It really looks like an cheap chair that you could get in every store. It may looks the same as other chairs, but it isn't. You really have to sit in these chairs to realize why they are so expensive. If you're used to office depot chairs where it's all slammed together with allen bolts and everything rattles around no matter how much you tighten it, a decent chair is a world of difference. You also get a lot more adjustments out of a good chair
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Funny thing is, Leaps actually cost about as much new as Aerons.
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rawrr posted:Funny thing is, Leaps actually cost about as much new as Aerons. I've found that the V2 is more expensive than the Aeron, and justifiably so.
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I am about to buy a couple of Leaps so if anyone in Perth wants a $1K fancypants chair we might be able to get it slightly cheaper. Email me james@cox.cx
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I should have read this thread before I got my Aeron. My thighs feel so uncomfortable after sitting on it for an hour and a half. Guess I should return it and get a leap.
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There are different Leaps like Executive Premium etc. The only one i can buy used is the Standard, heres a picture:  Are there any important differences between the Leaps or is it more about design? And how important is a headrest for ergonomical sitting? And what do you guys think about the Herman Miller Embody?
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So I just found a local dealer that will sell me new Herman Miller Embodys for $787.20 + tax, which if I'm not mistaken is a spectacular price. The only adjustment it doesn't have is the seat depth adjustment, which I'm actually getting a quote on now. I also got a quote from another local office furniture supplier for a Steelcase leap v2. I did really like this chair also, but I didn't have enough time to really test the thing out. The Steelcase from this dealer is $798 (possibly otd). Would probably order online. Of the two which would last longer? Better back support? Both were ridiculously comfortable compared to the temporary dining room chair I sit in now, so it was hard to gauge when both seem amazing. e: ^ same question basically
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johnnyXcrane posted:There are different Leaps like Executive Premium etc. quote:And how important is a headrest for ergonomical sitting? quote:And what do you guys think about the Herman Miller Embody? Knyteguy posted:So I just found a local dealer that will sell me new Herman Miller Embodys for $787.20 + tax, which if I'm not mistaken is a spectacular price. The only adjustment it doesn't have is the seat depth adjustment, which I'm actually getting a quote on now. quote:Of the two which would last longer? Better back support? Both were ridiculously comfortable compared to the temporary dining room chair I sit in now, so it was hard to gauge when both seem amazing. Better back support is relative to each user, but both chairs are really adjustable. I'd lean more towards the Embody, as you're getting a way better deal on it than the Leap. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jun 21, 2012 |
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johnnyXcrane posted:There are different Leaps like Executive Premium etc. The "executive premium" or whatever just describes chairs specced with certain upgrades (for example, leather instead of fabric). The one pictured is a leap V1 arch back, and I actually think those look kind of ugly and dated - the back will look something like this: http://www.oodlesofpartsplus.com/images/pre_owned_leap_chair.jpg, whereas V1 ribbon backs and V2 look like this: http://www.abettersource.com/admine/images/product_images/1305581812_2.jpg which I think looks much more modern. The function is still exactly the same though. A head rest is nice if you like to recline a lot. Knyteguy posted:Of the two which would last longer? Better back support? Both were ridiculously comfortable compared to the temporary dining room chair I sit in now, so it was hard to gauge when both seem amazing. I think both have pretty long warranties, so I wouldn't really be worried. Having taken apart two leaps though, I can say that they are built to be very serviceable - almost everything will disassemble easily if you need to replace parts. I feel that the leap has better back support, since you can adjust the lumbar support height, and also both the lower back and upper back tension. The embody, by comparison, has this ambiguous dial that is supposed to do something like conform to the shape of your spine, but it didn't really make that big of a difference for me. That said, the Embody looks much much nicer, has a head rest standard, and you're getting a very good deal. It'll probably hold its value better and be easier to resell (used leaps are a dime a dozen from office furniture liquidators). In the end it's a very personal choice - I'd sit in the leap longer so you have a better basis for comparison. rawrr fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Jun 21, 2012 |
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rawrr posted:That said, the Embody looks much much nicer, has a head rest standard,
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From a page ago:Phiberoptik posted:Anyone have experience with MadisonSeating.com? They have pretty good deals and I want to make an order but wanna make sure they dont have some of the problems other sties have had since I'll be ordering from Canada. I just now put together my Leap v2 from Madison. No complaints at all. It shipped on the 15th and arrived today (Colorado). 1 day ahead of the FedEx estimate, it was left outside my house early this morning. Probably should have required a signature. It came in a nearly-cube box, disassembled (legs, cylinder, back&base, seat) each piece wrapped up tight with lots of heavy duty bubble wrap and loose bubble wrap filling up a fair amount of empty space. Didn't seem like it'd get bounced around inside the box too much. The box wasn't particularly heavy duty, but the shipping job seemed solid. Assembly took about 5 minutes, instructions were included, and I'm sitting it it now. No visible signs of use at all. A++ would buy again (hopefully won't have to for a long rear end time).
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Thanks for the answers guys! Now im really thinking about buying a new Embody. I'm really envy how cheap all chairs are in the US, i need to pay 2100$ here in Germany for a new Embody. Atleast it got 12 years warranty. It really sucks that i only can order online, so i got no chance to try out the chair. But with all the adjustable settings i hope its not gonna be a problem. Ah btw i checked out how much a new Leap would cost here: WHOPPING 2650$.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I don't think there is a head rest available for the Embody, standard or not. My bad, for some reason I remember the back rest extending all the way to the top of the head.
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johnnyXcrane posted:Thanks for the answers guys! I'm surprised there aren't dealers you could try the chair out at. You really, really should sit in the chair before you drop 2 grand on one - I was all set on buying the Embody, and was at the store to place an order, until I sat down on one and decided I didn't like it. It wasn't bad, but it just wasn't 1000 dollar good.
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It seems that places like madisonseating.com aren't authorized dealers:quote:Steelcase is a registered trademark of the respective owners of such trademarks, and not of Madison Seating. Madison Seating is an independent distributor and is not associated with such trademark owners or the manufacturers of the items sold on this website. Use of manufacturer's names, logos, and identifying marks is for fair use in selling merchandise manufactured by these name brands and does not imply a business relationship between Madison Seating and the manufacturers. Where do unauthorized sellers get their inventory? And does Steelcase honor the warranty if the chair isn't purchased from an authorized dealer? Edit: Steelcase doesn't honor the warranty on chairs that aren't purchased through authorized channels. So I'd be cautious about buying from grey market distributors, as the warranty is a huge perk. http://store.steelcase.com/warranty/ 10-8 fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jun 21, 2012 |
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Humanscale actually mentions Madisonseating by name on their list of unauthorized dealers that they will not honor warranties for: http://www.humanscale.com/about/authorizedresellerpolicy.cfm So how do they get their stock? I would guess a lot of it is used, picked up cheap in bulk from companies that have done bankrupt. And some of it is probably sold to them under the table by authorized dealers that have really good pricing from Steelcase/Herman Miller/Humanscale. Buyer beware I guess. The furniture industry is a cutthroat business with literally no regulation.
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It's a savings of a couple hundred bucks vs an authorized retailer, but I think it works the same way with refurb or second-hand chairs everywhere, regardless of seller or manufacturer. I haven't checked, but I assume that none of the warranties are transferrable from the manufacturers. I sat in a Leap in a local store, they wanted way more than I could get it for online, I rolled the dice. Buyer beware indeed. To be honest I made a hasty purchase when I bought from Madisonseating, my back had been bothering me in minor ways for a while, but something really trivial tweaked it and I leaped at the first reasonable deal I found just to get rid of the terrible chair I was using. I'll be satisfied if the new one lasts 2-3 years. If not, I gambled and lost, but checking over the chair I got I think it'll be fine.
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trinary posted:I leaped at the first reasonable deal See what you did there. But yeah, madison seating, national office liquidators etc, all of them are selling used ones from liquidations. "Refurbished" just means they reupholstered it with new fabric, which, in my case (from designerseationg), was really lovely fabric.
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Madisonseating lists the condition of all of their chairs as "open box" which means absolutely nothing at all, especially when most chairs sold weren't originally shipped in boxes. I interpret it to be an underhanded way of saying "used".
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If anyone has a local dealer, and you're a small business owner, check out the S3 pricing for herman miller chairs. It's like 50% off retail, and even cheaper than anything you'll find online (including Madison). And it's authorized dealers giving you quotes, so you'll get the warranty, and it's brand new. Only catch is you can't choose from all colors/fabrics.
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rawrr posted:used leaps are a dime a dozen from office furniture liquidators Yep, I picked up this ugly green Leap for $229 from an liquidator here in California.  
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Seen an Aeron Type A with arms for £325 ex 20% VAT - what would that be, about $600? Is that any good as a deal?
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Find a local company that deals in used office furniture and try to find some of the industry standards (Herman Miller Aeron, Haworth Zodi, Knoll Life, etc). They buy these chairs from businesses that close for pennies on the dollars and they can be had cheap and you can usually negotiate with them. Any one of theses chairs will last you 10-15 years easy.
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Trebek posted:Any one of theses chairs will last you 10-15 years easy.
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Jedit posted:Seen an Aeron Type A with arms for £325 ex 20% VAT - what would that be, about $600? Is that any good as a deal? Seems like a pretty good deal, especially if it's new.
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Knyteguy posted:Seems like a pretty good deal, especially if it's new. It's not, but it comes with 12 month warranty at least. Got another place doing used reupholstered Leaps for £174 inc VAT, which I think would be about $260. That sounds fairly good by the look of the thread. Problem is, I haven't had a chance to sit in either and don't know which is good, better or best value. :/ Edit: link for the Leap - http://bit.ly/LFk9DH From photos in this thread I would guess it's a V2? Jedit fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Jun 22, 2012 |
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Knyteguy posted:If anyone has a local dealer, and you're a small business owner, check out the S3 pricing for herman miller chairs. It's like 50% off retail, and even cheaper than anything you'll find online (including Madison). And it's authorized dealers giving you quotes, so you'll get the warranty, and it's brand new. What kind of hoops do you have to jump through to get the S3 pricing, do you know offhand? Minimum orders, what do you have to show, etc. I could probably swing getting a small business owner to get me but I'm wondering if they would bother with a single chair from some jerk.
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