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Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

spacejew posted:

I know its not worth it, but sometimes I give my back-up pawns better gear, and usually give out pretty solid parting gifts. It makes me sad when I get my buddy back and all he got for his efforts of fighting beasts is some old rotten meat :smith:.

I was still pretty pissed off from earlie when I died after hiking for hours. So I went and did the carrot trick a couple times till I had a good chunk of gold. Then I went, grabbed some low level Pawns and bought them all the Golden Idol neato-quipment for them.

My short, fat, old Pawn has only ever been hired one time :smith:

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marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

How many Maker's Fingers can you have at one time?

And when you use them on the Ur-Dragon, can you just hit anywhere or does it have to be one of the giant glowing weak points?

neetz
Mar 28, 2010
You may only have one at a time and you must hit a weak point.

Nemesis of Moles, stick up your gamertag or PSN ID if you want rift crystals from some hires.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

neetz posted:

You may only have one at a time and you must hit a weak point.

Nemesis of Moles, stick up your gamertag or PSN ID if you want rift crystals from some hires.

Oh snap, yeah I kinda should have figured that out :downs:

GT: Bobandabit

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

Lotish posted:

How many Maker's Fingers can you have at one time?

And when you use them on the Ur-Dragon, can you just hit anywhere or does it have to be one of the giant glowing weak points?

I don't think you have to directly hit one of his weak points, you just have to hit an area that isn't already dead.

Also pawns mirroring your spells so they cast faster is the best thing :allears:

DrakePegasus
Jan 30, 2009

It was Plundersaurus Rex's dream to be the greatest pirate dragon ever.

I'm FINALLY ready to start New Game +, but I have one important question remaining. Do you get to stay the class you are when you finish the game, or do you have to spend the first 2-5 hours of a new game locked into a base class, like before?

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

Big Bidness posted:

They gain a lot of Strength when they level, so you can do a huge amount of sword damage. Intimate Gambit does good damage, stuns an enemy, and brings it towards you so you can follow up with some more strikes, or another Intimate Gambit.

Gouge, which you don't get until level 7 or something deals huge damage against climbable monsters, and Dire Gouge at level 9 deals even more.

I don't really use most of the night Augments, but I tear poo poo up with a sword and bow.

Sounds cool then. I guess I'll focus on Intimate Strike->Intimate Gambit/Gouge->Dire Gouge/Clarity->Clairvoyance and my already pretty good strider bow skills.

I switched over to Ranger for a bit because their augments looked a little better but now I'll switch back and save up XP for these pretty expensive skills.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

DrakePegasus posted:

I'm FINALLY ready to start New Game +, but I have one important question remaining. Do you get to stay the class you are when you finish the game, or do you have to spend the first 2-5 hours of a new game locked into a base class, like before?
You spend a while back at the basic classes for both you and your pawn, until you reach Gran Soren for the first time again.

Mr. Self Destruct
Jan 1, 2008

lary
How do I get to NG+ from the seneschal's throne thing? I don't have the Godsbane in my inventory but it let me use it on buddy to become the seneschal, I understand you have to stab yourself after to start NG+? Is there any point to the weird running around invisible thing accessed by interacting with the throne? Basically asking if I hosed myself out of being able to play NG+ or if I'm missing something

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
Does the game ratchet up the difficulty a notch after I meet with the Duke? I've finished all the Wyrm Hunt quests and I'm just cleaning up my to-do quest list now, but I'm starting to feel like I'm getting the upper hand (level 30). I'm sure there's plenty in waiting for me, since the only bosses I've seen in the wild so far are cyclops, ogres, and the rare chimera.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


Seriously how do you perfect block? I can't find it anywhere on the net and it's not in the manual and from the skill video he just blocks through the whole goblin attack, and in practice I cant' get it to work by blocking the instant before they hit me, and as I was poo poo hot at riposting in dark souls I don't think I'm just loving it up.

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

Mr. Self Destruct posted:

How do I get to NG+ from the seneschal's throne thing? I don't have the Godsbane in my inventory but it let me use it on buddy to become the seneschal, I understand you have to stab yourself after to start NG+? Is there any point to the weird running around invisible thing accessed by interacting with the throne? Basically asking if I hosed myself out of being able to play NG+ or if I'm missing something

It should appear in your inventory, but you can only use it while you're in the seneschal's chamber. If its not in your inventory (it's a tool) then something might be broken.

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

notZaar posted:

Does the game ratchet up the difficulty a notch after I meet with the Duke? I've finished all the Wyrm Hunt quests and I'm just cleaning up my to-do quest list now, but I'm starting to feel like I'm getting the upper hand (level 30). I'm sure there's plenty in waiting for me, since the only bosses I've seen in the wild so far are cyclops, ogres, and the rare chimera.

The game levels off in terms of difficulty once you hit mid twenties to thirties. Post-game jacks the difficulty up a bit too for a while. However, if you aren't there yet, you could try exploring the Devilfire Grove for a slightly tougher monster.

Mercedes
Mar 7, 2006

"So you Jesus?"

"And you black?"

"Nigga prove it!"

And so Black Jesus turned water into a bucket of chicken. And He saw that it was good.




likecnsnnts posted:



Also she talks a lot :v:




I think my game is bugged because no mater how often I tell her in the chair to shut the gently caress up she just yammers on.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

As it turns out, using the Maker's Finger on the dragon, while satisfying to shut him up, means you skip the whole ending. I found this out because I looked up what you actually do on Youtube. Oops!

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Are drakes supposed to appear early on in NG+? Do they appear early on in a first playthrough? I was walking about in NG+ trying to explore missing parts of my map (namely, between the shadow fort and the bloodsomething beach where all the goblins are, and I was surprised I was attacked by a dragon winging in from out of the sky. I had only progressed far enough where I hadn't even talked to Ser Maximillian for the first time yet.


Also, where is madeline found at the beginning of the game? The quest to escort her to Gran Soren I've missed out twice now, I've only seen her once I get to Gran Soren where she's already hanging out in the Inn.

As for my other experiences, the Golden Idol quest I got the first time through, and it was long before I got the quest to prove Fournival's innocence. I'm mostly worried about not getting the Witch Hunt quest (didn't do any Selene quests the first time through except the one to make some ale) and any quests I missed with Madeline (I never had her leave Gran Soren the first playthrough) or Quina (missed her Witchwood quest the first time through, or any other quest. She just appeared at the Nunnery late in the game for me. I assume there will be an escort quest to bring her to the Abbey?)

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Potsticker posted:

Are drakes supposed to appear early on in NG+? Do they appear early on in a first playthrough? I was walking about in NG+ trying to explore missing parts of my map (namely, between the shadow fort and the bloodsomething beach where all the goblins are, and I was surprised I was attacked by a dragon winging in from out of the sky. I had only progressed far enough where I hadn't even talked to Ser Maximillian for the first time yet.
That drake is always in that forest in the south, if you haven't run into it before now you're just lucky.

Dyatlov Bass
Apr 16, 2012

by Fistgrrl
Yeah, in all of my plays, loving thing wouldn't even let me do any of the Shadow Fort quests until I killed it. Couldn't go around it or anything, so I wasn't done with the Wyrm Hunt until my late 30's.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Samurai Sanders posted:

That drake is always in that forest in the south, if you haven't run into it before now you're just lucky.

I never seemed to have a reason to go there during the main game. That whole coast, really. It was a cool fight and got three pieces of equipment dragonforged. I'll have to visit there more often if the drake is guaranteed to be there.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Is there something special you do to get skewer dart to pierce shields or is it bugged? These goblins just deflect the arrow.

e: Why didn't they implement the enemy AI that's in new game + in regular game? gently caress, wolves play support, harpies rush you and carry you to an ogre, which bats you into the ocean. Undead hold you for wolves, goblins do four hit combos, while the rest kick you while you're down, preventing you from attacking. Why was none of this in the base game? It's really only annoying in ng+ because every single attack every single enemy does has a status ailment attached.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jun 19, 2012

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Potsticker posted:

I never seemed to have a reason to go there during the main game. That whole coast, really. It was a cool fight and got three pieces of equipment dragonforged. I'll have to visit there more often if the drake is guaranteed to be there.

3 pieces? That's some great luck. Even with all your gear at level 3 it's only a 18% chance iirc to get it dragonforged when killing a drake.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

likecnsnnts posted:

edit: vvvv I never thought to use it on the Dragon... considering a lot of the first half of the fight is scripted, if it's even going to work, it has to come late into the fight, yes?

You can kill the dragon in the first room the game lets you fight it in.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

FirstPersonShitter posted:

Seriously how do you perfect block? I can't find it anywhere on the net and it's not in the manual and from the skill video he just blocks through the whole goblin attack, and in practice I cant' get it to work by blocking the instant before they hit me, and as I was poo poo hot at riposting in dark souls I don't think I'm just loving it up.

You do exactly what you describe. :shobon:
You need the core skill Deflect or Reflect depending on your vocation to get the full effect.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


tooooooo bad posted:

You do exactly what you describe. :shobon:
You need the core skill Deflect or Reflect depending on your vocation to get the full effect.

Is that what does the force push thing they show in the video? So far I've noticed that during some of my attempts to perfect block I've set people on fire, but I don't see any fireball shoot out so I'm not sure if it's just a random effect of fire riposte or if I'm actually perfect blocking. Same with holy riposte, sometimes it seems a bit like something else happens, but if it does it hits what I blocked instantly so I can't see it.

likecnsnnts
Jun 16, 2008

SPLINTER CELLULITE

RBA Starblade posted:

As it turns out, using the Maker's Finger on the dragon, while satisfying to shut him up, means you skip the whole ending. I found this out because I looked up what you actually do on Youtube. Oops!

Really? What happens?

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Cbouncerrun posted:

3 pieces? That's some great luck. Even with all your gear at level 3 it's only a 18% chance iirc to get it dragonforged when killing a drake.

Better luck than that, since the sword was only 1 star upgraded. It was the Cinquesomething, the same model the Duke uses in the post game. The other two pieces were 3 stars, though.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

FirstPersonShitter posted:

Is that what does the force push thing they show in the video? So far I've noticed that during some of my attempts to perfect block I've set people on fire, but I don't see any fireball shoot out so I'm not sure if it's just a random effect of fire riposte or if I'm actually perfect blocking. Same with holy riposte, sometimes it seems a bit like something else happens, but if it does it hits what I blocked instantly so I can't see it.

Any time you block with your mystic shield enchanted you'll get some kind of effect, like setting people on fire. It's in the skill description. Perfect blocks cause the fireball, and you need Reflect to do them.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
So loving around with MK for a while made me realize that I can shoot homing lightning from my shield.



That skill will never leave that slot and I was able to kill a ballista goblin from 100 feet away in the shadow fort quest with it. Abyssal anguish is also pretty loving good since it gives your weapon range, multi hit and a shockwave which makes golems trivial since it's able to hit multiple weakspots at the same time on it.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
I dunno how you guys play Magic Knight. The shield clips, it stays on your back until you actually block with it (it's great how fast it comes out though!). It's just so aesthetically ugly! :V

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Rascyc posted:

I dunno how you guys play Magic Knight. The shield clips, it stays on your back until you actually block with it (it's great how fast it comes out though!). It's just so aesthetically ugly! :V
Yeah, you're right about that, but some of the narrower shields don't have that clipping problem.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

My character's entire outfit at this point is designed around avoiding clipping. It's hard being a sperglord.

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
Monster Hunter pretty much made me immune to getting irked by clipping.

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!
I'm having a hard time deciding between skills based on their descriptions in game, will I gimp myself if I just take whichever ones fancy me? I'd rather not spoil myself by reading character build info (and probably more importantly) watching the skill animations on youtube. I'm a strider planning to go assassin, if that makes any difference.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


tooooooo bad posted:

Any time you block with your mystic shield enchanted you'll get some kind of effect, like setting people on fire. It's in the skill description. Perfect blocks cause the fireball, and you need Reflect to do them.

Oh my god, I bought reflect.

I guess it doesn't work at all until you buy that skill. Now every loving block I attempt is a perfect block, the time window is so large with the fighter augment. I nearly went crazy trying to perfect block and it turned out that it seemed impossible because it was friggin impossible until you buy that skill, which should really be loving called perfect block instead of reflect.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Seashell Salesman posted:

I'm having a hard time deciding between skills based on their descriptions in game, will I gimp myself if I just take whichever ones fancy me? I'd rather not spoil myself by reading character build info (and probably more importantly) watching the skill animations on youtube. I'm a strider planning to go assassin, if that makes any difference.

Nope. Do what feels right.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

likecnsnnts posted:

Really? What happens?

You just walk out with your lover. The dragon says nothing because he's already dead. You don't see the cutscenes where Gran Soren falls or anything. That's it. :v:

How do I change vocation now that the inn is gone? Nevermind, it's at the guild.

Is the everfall big enough I need to buy portcrystals? For that matter are all 20 wakestones down there?

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jun 19, 2012

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
I spent a bunch of points leveling up dagger skills, but I feel like sword skills will be more fun with the Assassin. Should I worry about the points I've spent, or are there enough to get everything you'd want to level and get?

I'm ~25 at the moment.

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

Fun fact: pawns are decent throwing weapons!

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

I spent a bunch of points leveling up dagger skills, but I feel like sword skills will be more fun with the Assassin. Should I worry about the points I've spent, or are there enough to get everything you'd want to level and get?

I'm ~25 at the moment.

You'll eventually have more discipline than you ever need unless you try to buy every skill for every vocation.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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RBA Starblade posted:

You just walk out with your lover. The dragon says nothing because he's already dead. You don't see the cutscenes where Gran Soren falls or anything. That's it. :v:

How do I change vocation now that the inn is gone?

The inn is relocated to the pawn guild.
I don't know how people miss it so often, you have to pass by Asalam after the mandatory jumping in to the hole bit.

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Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

I spent a bunch of points leveling up dagger skills, but I feel like sword skills will be more fun with the Assassin. Should I worry about the points I've spent, or are there enough to get everything you'd want to level and get?

I'm ~25 at the moment.

Points come fast enough, from my experience, that you can experiment a bit and never feel you're too terribly starved for them. You can always go out and grind monsters if you really want to, anyway. As for skills with Assassin, I've absolutely loved the sword abilities you get. I don't have Gouge/Dire Gouge yet, but Powder Charge and Intimate Gambit are all sorts of awesome.

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